SOBOS-Boating Safety App

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by georgefelt

MP goal is to protect and serve. The more information they have regarding boater behavior, the more effectively and efficiently they can do their job. A lot of posters complain about bad boater behavior, but when offered a chance to help MP do their job it is suddenly a privacy issue? To get (good policing), you have to give (information) and why not do it with a smile? MP is welcome on my boat or my phone any time because I play by the rules. If you have something to hide this will not be your cup of tea, but then don’t bitch about how ineffective MP is when the bad boater misbehaves in your neck of the woods. Are you part of the problem or part of the answer? Sign me up.


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I think the MP is terrific, and I would gladly do whatever I could to help them patrol more effectively. I also would not object to monitoring that I believed would help deter bad behavior or get to people faster in an emergency.

But at least one of us misunderstands the app--this is a completely voluntary program. People with "something to hide", as you put it, will not sign up. So how will this help the MP when a "bad boater misbehaves"?

[Skip]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I think the MP is terrific, and I would gladly do whatever I could to help them patrol more effectively. I also would not object to monitoring that I believed would help deter bad behavior or get to people faster in an emergency.

But at least one of us misunderstands the app--this is a completely voluntary program. People with "something to hide", as you put it, will not sign up. So how will this help the MP when a "bad boater misbehaves"?

Where in the FAQ or NHMP post does it claim that this voluntary program is designed to catch people “that have something to hide”? It is simply an anonymous plotting program that over a period of time will supply analysts with statistical data about overall boating traffic patterns, speeds and operation that could eventually evolve into a app, like Google maps, that gives real time traffic warnings and interactive reporting of waterborne hazards.

I hope no one needs to buy tin foil in the Lakes region this weekend, it appears it may be in short supply.....

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Skip

Where in the FAQ or NHMP post does it claim that this voluntary program is designed to catch people “that have something to hide”? It is simply an anonymous plotting program that over a period of time will supply analysts with statistical data about overall boating traffic patterns, speeds and operation that could eventually evolve into a app, like Google maps, that gives real time traffic warnings and interactive reporting of waterborne hazards.

I hope no one needs to buy tin foil in the Lakes region this weekend, it appears it may be in short supply.....

Umm, I think you and I agree that it is not designed to catch people. I was only trying to refute george's assertion that the app would reduce bad behavior.

Also, no need to be insulting--tech offers us plenty of opportunity to swap away our privacy for increased convenience. My general point is that, at least for me, this particular swap is not worth it.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Umm, I think you and I agree that it is not designed to catch people. I was only trying to refute george's assertion that the app would reduce bad behavior.
Also, no need to be insulting--tech offers us plenty of opportunity to swap away our privacy for increased convenience. My general point is that, at least for me, this particular swap is not worth it.

Get used to it...

[Poor Richard]

If you're on Facebook, this app is the least of your worries

[Rich]

I took a look at this app. It will only track each run if you allow it each time you try to use it.

Each and every track must be allowed by you, to the point of it being annoying by asking you for permission each time.

So you can probably poke a cooling vent hole or two into your tin foil hats, or just uninstall it if you feel too creeped out by it.

Google. Facebook and other unknown apps are tracking a lot more than you know, compared to this app.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Rich

Google. Facebook and other unknown apps are tracking a lot more than you know, compared to this app.

I have a good laugh every time someone here starts on the "Privacy" soapbox.


As Rich states -- by the mere fact that you use the internet your whereabouts, sites visited, comments made, and profiles of your habits are being made and more !

If you are that paranoid of information tracking, I would HIGHLY suggest that you NEVER use Google to search anything, Never purchase from Amazon … in fact, you should turn off your computer & phone immediately …. because the reality is -- your being tracked !



for the more progressive -- it has a positive implication as well
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Phantom

I have a good laugh every time someone here starts on the "Privacy" soapbox.


As Rich states -- by the mere fact that you use the internet your whereabouts, sites visited, comments made, and profiles of your habits are being made and more !

If you are that paranoid of information tracking, I would HIGHLY suggest that you NEVER use Google to search anything, Never purchase from Amazon … in fact, you should turn off your computer & phone immediately …. because the reality is -- your being tracked !



for the more progressive -- it has a positive implication as well
…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

As someone who expressed discomfort with the privacy issue here, I don't think you should assume that all of us on this side of the issue are paranoid and unsophisticated. I share plenty of info when I believe it's worth the trade. For example, my car knows my current location and everyplace I've driven. That's a lot of info, but I really like the car and GPS. OTOH, I do not think Facebook is worth the swap, so I don't use it.

Virtually every article on internet privacy encourages people to customize their privacy settings to suit their own preferences. Your position seems to be that since many modern technologies reveal lots of info user, that users should just give up on everything and share all. Mine is that privacy has value; people should only give it up when they get something they want in return.

[Phantom]

Totally Agree

Thus my "Privacy" settings are set where they are on my phone. Doesn't stop App's Like Waze, Google Maps, Amazon, etc. but you can dial it down a bit

My "having a good laugh" is about those who think you can remain totally anonymous and still utilize the internet.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Rich

I took a look at this app. It will only track each run if you allow it each time you try to use it. Each and every track must be allowed by you, to the point of it being annoying by asking you for permission each time. So you can probably poke a cooling vent hole or two into your tin foil hats, or just uninstall it if you feel too creeped out by it.
Google. Facebook and other unknown apps are tracking a lot more than you know, compared to this app.

I've been keeping Facebook at arm's length since day-one.

When I clicked on an interesting web site, a Facebook pop-up asked me to sign up to Facebook citing, "Your interest in golf*, hockey*, drones*, Civil War history*, Subaru SUVs*, stamp collecting*, pythons*, and Wells Fargo banking* can be met, so consider joining us at Facebook.

*= made-up "interests" just for this post, but you get the idea.

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