Homeowner didn't like fisherman getting close to property

swnoel · 10-05-2018, 08:43 AM

He was lucky she didn't file a charge of sexual assault or rape! Seems to be the way some solve disagreements! This is just another example of wealthy lake front owners being bully's and disregarding the publics right to the body of water they believe they own. She could have gone down , asked how they were doing, and ask that they be careful fishing around the boats, but that's not how the elites are. Wonder why so many people dislike waterfront property owners from out of state!

Top-Water · 10-05-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by swnoel

She could have gone down , asked how they were doing, and ask that they be careful fishing around the boats,

Exactly! .................

joey2665 · 10-05-2018, 08:59 AM

Waterfront property owners need to know and understand the laws of the lake the live on. If she did, she could have easily said them them "I know the law and understand you are allowed to be here but could you please be careful around my boat", but as someone that did not know the law she pretty quickly threatened to call the police which will only escalate the issue.

Biggd · 10-05-2018, 09:11 AM

It takes two willing participants for a confrontation like this. This is not much different than how road rage starts. I know he had every right to fish there but he could easily have moved to another location to defuse the confrontation.
A good friend of mine has a place on Stinson Lake and a few years ago they had an incident at their docks and the guy went to his boat, pulled out a gun and shot the other guy dead.
Is it really worth it for a couple extra fish that he throws back anyway?

Shrimpbrain · 10-05-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Biggd

It takes two willing participants for a confrontation like this. This is not much different than how road rage starts. I know he had every right to fish there but he could easily have moved to another location to defuse the confrontation.
A good friend of mine has a place on Stinson Lake and a few years ago they had an incident at their docks and the guy went to his boat, pulled out a gun and shot the other guy dead.
Is it really worth it for a couple extra fish that he throws back anyway?

IF she had educated her entitled self to learn the rules of the State of NH, she NEVER would have gone done there. Totally different then road rage.. LOL. He has the right to do it. He pays taxes for it like everyone else. And it only takes ONE **** to start an argument. If she knew anything, she wouldn't have said a thing. He didn't argue he was informing her of the LAW. Why Move??

tbonies · 10-05-2018, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrimpbrain

IF she had educated her entitled self to learn the rules of the State of NH, she NEVER would have gone done there. Totally different then road rage.. LOL. He has the right to do it. He pays taxes for it like everyone else. And it only takes ONE **** to start an argument. If she knew anything, she wouldn't have said a thing. He didn't argue he was informing her of the LAW. Why Move??

Perhaps to simply love his neighbor?

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Rusty · 10-05-2018, 09:59 AM

The lake has a surface area of 71 sq miles and this guy has to antagonize a slip owner who only wants to make sure her boat doesn't get damaged. The big fish that he wants to catch just have to be in that little open slip..so he thinks anyway.
At the end of the video the other guy on the boat said that they should start her boat motor and see how she reacts..real funny..to them anyway.

Biggd · 10-05-2018, 10:13 AM

About a month ago I was behind 2 casr and we coming up on a part of road where it merged into one lane. Well neither guy in front of me wanted to let the other go ahead. They eventually sideswiped each other. I'm sure the battle continued after they pulled over but I just passed on by. Who was right and who was wrong? Was it really worth it to get one car ahead?
The whole incident could have been avoided if one of them didn't continue the confrontation. I just don't get it?

Biggd · 10-05-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrimpbrain

IF she had educated her entitled self to learn the rules of the State of NH, she NEVER would have gone done there. Totally different then road rage.. LOL. He has the right to do it. He pays taxes for it like everyone else. And it only takes ONE **** to start an argument. If she knew anything, she wouldn't have said a thing. He didn't argue he was informing her of the LAW. Why Move??

He was being a A-hole also. There's no reason he couldn't have moved away except that he wanted to continue the confrontation. It takes one A-hole to start an argument but it takes more than one to continue it.

kjkam · 10-05-2018, 08:58 AM

unfortunately for the good fistherman, there are bad ones that have hooked lures on people's docks and boat covers, and left them behind. It' a nice way for a home owner to mass a collection of lures, but also not fun when you grab hold of your cover and get stuck by one.

TiltonBB · 10-05-2018, 09:38 AM

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unfortunately for the good fistherman, there are bad ones that have hooked lures on people's docks and boat covers, and left them behind. It' a nice way for a home owner to mass a collection of lures, but also not fun when you grab hold of your cover and get stuck by one.

I understand the complaint.

I have several docks that are rented out in a commercial area. For many years people came in cars, used my parking lot, and fished from my docks. They left everything from bait to soda cans for me to clean up. Once when I stopped by one of the fisherman was standing on someones swim platform fishing.

After numerous complaints from the tenants renting docks about fish hooks stuck in their lines or their canvas covers I put up several "no fishing/no trespassing" signs. That reduced the complaint s by about 80% but I still find people fishing there several times a year. Some people just don't get it.

Bigstan · 10-05-2018, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by swnoel

He was lucky she didn't file a charge of sexual assault or rape! Seems to be the way some solve disagreements! This is just another example of wealthy lake front owners being bully's and disregarding the publics right to the body of water they believe they own. She could have gone down , asked how they were doing, and ask that they be careful fishing around the boats, but that's not how the elites are. Wonder why so many people dislike waterfront property owners from out of state!

You know she's wealthy how? You can tell she's from out of state because...? She's elite why, becuase she has an average boat docked ?

Thank you Captain political for your insight. I wasn't sure if she was an 'us' or a 'them' , now I know.

SAMIAM · 10-05-2018, 10:30 AM

There was no reason to drive right in between the docks unless he was trying to provoke a confrontation.He could easily have been respectful and stayed 20 or 30 feet out and cast in around the docks.
This is a guy who has issues with people he sees as “entitled”....... looks to me like he is the one that thinks he owns the lake after that set up.

ConcernedAngler · 10-06-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMIAM

There was no reason to drive right in between the docks unless he was trying to provoke a confrontation.He could easily have been respectful and stayed 20 or 30 feet out and cast in around the docks.
This is a guy who has issues with people he sees as “entitled”....... looks to me like he is the one that thinks he owns the lake after that set up.

I own on the lake and I fish on the lake. I would rather have someone 5 feet from my boat fishing my dock, than trying to get their bait under the dock from 20-30 ft away.

FlyingScot · 10-05-2018, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by swnoel

He was lucky she didn't file a charge of sexual assault or rape! Seems to be the way some solve disagreements! This is just another example of wealthy lake front owners being bully's and disregarding the publics right to the body of water they believe they own. She could have gone down , asked how they were doing, and ask that they be careful fishing around the boats, but that's not how the elites are. Wonder why so many people dislike waterfront property owners from out of state!

I don't think you should assume she is a waterfront property owner (or for that matter, elite or from out of state). Actually, she appears not to be a waterfront owner--her boat is at a marina

Poor Richard · 10-05-2018, 10:47 AM

No harm, no foul. Let the guy fish.

Redbarn · 10-05-2018, 11:05 AM

Is Johnathan landing a dug out marina?

gillygirl · 10-05-2018, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Redbarn

Is Johnathan landing a dug out marina?

Sure looks like it to me, which would make it private. I guess the JL HOA will have to put up signs to prevent this from happening again. Which, by the way, they have the right to do, according to the man in the video.

ConcernedAngler · 10-06-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gillygirl

Sure looks like it to me, which would make it private. I guess the JL HOA will have to put up signs to prevent this from happening again. Which, by the way, they have the right to do, according to the man in the video.

There are no such marinas on Winni. I don’t believe 50% of the stories regarding lures snagged, torn covers, etc... I have found 1 jig on our dock in 9 yrs!!! Know the laws if you own on the water.

gillygirl · 10-07-2018, 11:33 AM

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There are no such marinas on Winni. I don’t believe 50% of the stories regarding lures snagged, torn covers, etc... I have found 1 jig on our dock in 9 yrs!!! Know the laws if you own on the water.

Of course there are dug marinas in Winnipesaukee. I watched one as it grew over the years.

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ThePlut · 10-05-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I don't think you should assume she is a waterfront property owner (or for that matter, elite or from out of state). Actually, she appears not to be a waterfront owner--her boat is at a marina

The video was taken at the Marina in Jonathan's Landing, which is a community and all the slips (and boats) in there are for people who own condos in there.

The Real BigGuy · 10-06-2018, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by swnoel

He was lucky she didn't file a charge of sexual assault or rape! Seems to be the way some solve disagreements! This is just another example of wealthy lake front owners being bully's and disregarding the publics right to the body of water they believe they own. She could have gone down , asked how they were doing, and ask that they be careful fishing around the boats, but that's not how the elites are. Wonder why so many people dislike waterfront property owners from out of state!

Have a chip on your shoulder much?

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Dave R · 10-06-2018, 08:24 PM

I thought that was a nice fish at the end. I can totally understand why he wanted to fish there after seeing that.

Bigstan · 10-06-2018, 08:47 PM

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I thought that was a nice fish at the end. I can totally understand why he wanted to fish there after seeing that.

True, but fish like that cost more than the bait it takes to catch them in the long run ��

Or were you talking about the actual fish? That was nice too, and cleanly caught & released.

10-05-2018, 09:59 AM	#7
Rusty Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 603 Thanked 687 Times in 425 Posts	The lake has a surface area of 71 sq miles and this guy has to antagonize a slip owner who only wants to make sure her boat doesn't get damaged. The big fish that he wants to catch just have to be in that little open slip..so he thinks anyway. At the end of the video the other guy on the boat said that they should start her boat motor and see how she reacts..real funny..to them anyway. __________________ It's never crowded along the extra mile.

10-05-2018, 08:58 AM	#10
kjkam Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	dock fishing unfortunately for the good fistherman, there are bad ones that have hooked lures on people's docks and boat covers, and left them behind. It' a nice way for a home owner to mass a collection of lures, but also not fun when you grab hold of your cover and get stuck by one.

10-05-2018, 11:05 AM	#17
Redbarn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 62 Thanks: 8 Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts	Jl Is Johnathan landing a dug out marina?

10-05-2018, 08:43 AM	#1
swnoel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 529 Thanks: 83 Thanked 194 Times in 118 Posts	He was lucky she didn't file a charge of sexual assault or rape! Seems to be the way some solve disagreements! This is just another example of wealthy lake front owners being bully's and disregarding the publics right to the body of water they believe they own. She could have gone down , asked how they were doing, and ask that they be careful fishing around the boats, but that's not how the elites are. Wonder why so many people dislike waterfront property owners from out of state!

10-05-2018, 08:59 AM	#3
joey2665 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Meredith Bay & LI, NY Posts: 3,222 Thanks: 1,219 Thanked 1,009 Times in 649 Posts	Waterfront property owners need to know and understand the laws of the lake the live on. If she did, she could have easily said them them "I know the law and understand you are allowed to be here but could you please be careful around my boat", but as someone that did not know the law she pretty quickly threatened to call the police which will only escalate the issue.

10-05-2018, 09:11 AM	#4
Biggd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH Posts: 4,188 Thanks: 2,260 Thanked 1,213 Times in 774 Posts	It takes two willing participants for a confrontation like this. This is not much different than how road rage starts. I know he had every right to fish there but he could easily have moved to another location to defuse the confrontation. A good friend of mine has a place on Stinson Lake and a few years ago they had an incident at their docks and the guy went to his boat, pulled out a gun and shot the other guy dead. Is it really worth it for a couple extra fish that he throws back anyway?

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Biggd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Waltham Ma./Meredith NH Posts: 4,188 Thanks: 2,260 Thanked 1,213 Times in 774 Posts	About a month ago I was behind 2 casr and we coming up on a part of road where it merged into one lane. Well neither guy in front of me wanted to let the other go ahead. They eventually sideswiped each other. I'm sure the battle continued after they pulled over but I just passed on by. Who was right and who was wrong? Was it really worth it to get one car ahead? The whole incident could have been avoided if one of them didn't continue the confrontation. I just don't get it?

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SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,912 Thanks: 338 Thanked 1,690 Times in 594 Posts	There was no reason to drive right in between the docks unless he was trying to provoke a confrontation.He could easily have been respectful and stayed 20 or 30 feet out and cast in around the docks. This is a guy who has issues with people he sees as “entitled”....... looks to me like he is the one that thinks he owns the lake after that set up.

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10-06-2018, 08:24 PM	#23
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 246 Thanked 744 Times in 444 Posts	I thought that was a nice fish at the end. I can totally understand why he wanted to fish there after seeing that.