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DEJ · 12-30-2018, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Here we go again...

Yup and you took the bait.

fatlazyless · 12-30-2018, 10:32 AM

At Lowe's, according to their website, the 60-lb bag of Quikrete concrete mix costs 3.65 each, and when you buy a 56-bag pallet, the price is reduced by 30%.

For starters, go buy just one bag, and plop the sealed and unopened bag into the lake to see how it sets up, underwater, as a possible shoreline rip-rap stop against an eroding shoreline caused by the waves and wave-making wake boats.

Just one bag on an experimental basis ..... the water seeps through the paper bag ..... the concrete sets up .... each bag weighs how much when set up? ...... it aligns and hugs the smooth sandy-pebbled bottom ..... does it work ..... is it legal(?).

Nothing is likely to ever happen with slowing down, or stopping those wake boats, just ain't gonna happen, so's plopping these 60-lb paper bags of concrete along the shoreline may be a solution.

I call the it the Maine way, for solving their erosion problems over in Maine. If it works in Maine, will it work in New Hampshire?

About one week after plopping the bag along the water-land transition line, the paper outer bag can be removed, torn away, leaving the dark gray concrete which will probably blend pretty good with the natural shoreline. Sort of a 60-lb when dry, unknown weight when wet and set, shoreline builder-upper, protection line for protect'n the shoreline from the wake boat waves. Concrete is a mix of sand, gravel, cement, with the addition of water. Just add water to make it happen, and just carefully position the paper bag into the water along the shoreline and the water will quickly seep through the paper sack, making it set up and get very hard and durable ...... concrete!

According to a pdf from Quikrete, their paper bags/sacks that package the concrete, and keep it inside the sack while setting up, are biodegradable.

What a concrete plan!

For tons of excellent and informative instructions, suggest you google: 'Using concrete bags shoreline rip-rap' ..... the natural Maine way from that natural beauty state ..... just to the east ..... how they do it over in Maine.

Rusty · 12-30-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DEJ

Yup and you took the bait.

Not only the bait.... but the hook, line, sinker, and even the fish pole.

TiltonBB · 12-30-2018, 11:45 AM

Some people want the lake usage to return to just Indians in canoes. That is probably not going to happen.

Sometimes, we have to adjust to change. That does happen!

fatlazyless · 12-30-2018, 12:09 PM

Yes, that's true, but going back to canoes is asking too much, and a motor is good for going the distance.

What would be a happy compromise is mandating the 14' open v-hull powered by a 15-hp tiller handle outboard to be the one and only vessel on Lake Winnipesaukee allowed ..... you understand! The 14' v-hull/15-hp will get up on plane at about 14-mph ...... top speed about 20-mph on a good motor day ..... all the speed U ever need!

Except for a handful of rough weather, windy days, you can go anywhere you want on this lake with a 14' v-hull/15-hp tiller handle provided it has 2-3 bags of concrete for dead weight, way up the bow, to balance the boat .... and make it safer to bounce it all around this lake ..... bounce-bounce-bounce ...... for super hi-tech handling ..... get a tiller handle extension and try standing up in the middle of the boat .... sort of turns it into a 14' wake board or something ....... but, without the wave-maker, wake boat up ahead of it ....... omg!

Wake boats are just a scam plan to sell people an $85,000 wave-maker, fancy-dancy boat when all's you really need is standing up the center of the 14'er with that there tiller handle 48" extension handle ..... an easy do-it-yourself item.

12-30-2018, 10:32 AM	#2
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,920 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 1,055 Times in 768 Posts	stop erosion-build a small wall-the MAINE way! At Lowe's, according to their website, the 60-lb bag of Quikrete concrete mix costs 3.65 each, and when you buy a 56-bag pallet, the price is reduced by 30%. For starters, go buy just one bag, and plop the sealed and unopened bag into the lake to see how it sets up, underwater, as a possible shoreline rip-rap stop against an eroding shoreline caused by the waves and wave-making wake boats. Just one bag on an experimental basis ..... the water seeps through the paper bag ..... the concrete sets up .... each bag weighs how much when set up? ...... it aligns and hugs the smooth sandy-pebbled bottom ..... does it work ..... is it legal(?). Nothing is likely to ever happen with slowing down, or stopping those wake boats, just ain't gonna happen, so's plopping these 60-lb paper bags of concrete along the shoreline may be a solution. I call the it the Maine way, for solving their erosion problems over in Maine. If it works in Maine, will it work in New Hampshire? About one week after plopping the bag along the water-land transition line, the paper outer bag can be removed, torn away, leaving the dark gray concrete which will probably blend pretty good with the natural shoreline. Sort of a 60-lb when dry, unknown weight when wet and set, shoreline builder-upper, protection line for protect'n the shoreline from the wake boat waves. Concrete is a mix of sand, gravel, cement, with the addition of water. Just add water to make it happen, and just carefully position the paper bag into the water along the shoreline and the water will quickly seep through the paper sack, making it set up and get very hard and durable ...... concrete! According to a pdf from Quikrete, their paper bags/sacks that package the concrete, and keep it inside the sack while setting up, are biodegradable. What a concrete plan! For tons of excellent and informative instructions, suggest you google: 'Using concrete bags shoreline rip-rap' ..... the natural Maine way from that natural beauty state ..... just to the east ..... how they do it over in Maine. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 12-30-2018 at 11:44 AM.

12-30-2018, 12:09 PM	#5
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,920 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 306 Thanked 1,055 Times in 768 Posts	Yes, that's true, but going back to canoes is asking too much, and a motor is good for going the distance. What would be a happy compromise is mandating the 14' open v-hull powered by a 15-hp tiller handle outboard to be the one and only vessel on Lake Winnipesaukee allowed ..... you understand! The 14' v-hull/15-hp will get up on plane at about 14-mph ...... top speed about 20-mph on a good motor day ..... all the speed U ever need! Except for a handful of rough weather, windy days, you can go anywhere you want on this lake with a 14' v-hull/15-hp tiller handle provided it has 2-3 bags of concrete for dead weight, way up the bow, to balance the boat .... and make it safer to bounce it all around this lake ..... bounce-bounce-bounce ...... for super hi-tech handling ..... get a tiller handle extension and try standing up in the middle of the boat .... sort of turns it into a 14' wake board or something ....... but, without the wave-maker, wake boat up ahead of it ....... omg! Wake boats are just a scam plan to sell people an $85,000 wave-maker, fancy-dancy boat when all's you really need is standing up the center of the 14'er with that there tiller handle 48" extension handle ..... an easy do-it-yourself item. __________________ .... Banned for life from local thrift store! Last edited by fatlazyless; 12-30-2018 at 01:07 PM.

12-30-2018, 11:45 AM	#4
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,059 Thanks: 726 Thanked 2,235 Times in 955 Posts	Some people want the lake usage to return to just Indians in canoes. That is probably not going to happen. Sometimes, we have to adjust to change. That does happen!