City of Laconia home rentals

TiltonBB · 01-31-2019, 07:40 AM

All of this attention because of an insignificant number of complaints.

The officials are once again talking about more regulation and expense to both the homeowner and the city. They suggest fire inspections and a local party to call if there is a parking or noise violation. Don't those parking and noise laws already exist? Isn't the police department capable of handling a noise or parking complaint?

We don't need more regulation in the "Live Free or Die" state.

joey2665 · 01-31-2019, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TiltonBB

All of this attention because of an insignificant number of complaints.

The officials are once again talking about more regulation and expense to both the homeowner and the city. They suggest fire inspections and a local party to call if there is a parking or noise violation. Don't those parking and noise laws already exist? Isn't the police department capable of handling a noise or parking complaint?

We don't need more regulation in the "Live Free or Die" state.

Tilton is correct. We do not need more regulations the system is in place. In my experience I find long term renters in the area have caused more damage and more issues than the short term renters who tend to be more family oriented and there to enjoy the region.

Also isn’t this an opportunity for the state to charge short term renters the occupancy tax that hotel/motel patrons pay, which means more revenue? I also do not think this will have a great effect on the local hotels and motels as short term renters like to have the efficiencies of a home with full kitchen amenities and privacy which in turn means more visitors and more revenue for businesses and the government

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greeleyhill · 01-31-2019, 07:06 PM

Spot on. A very high percentage of the short term rentals in the area are managed and run the right way. For folks who are responsible and vet their renters thoroughly, they should be allowed to continue renting their property. Good for them - they've invested in Laconia real estate and are bringing business into the area...and Laconia definitely needs it! Most guests are families, in many cases, multi-generational, who are looking to rent a home and have all the amenities of home on their family vacation - not a stay at an old/dated and crowded hotel in the summer. Hotel options are very limited. If however, there are repeat offenders who rent their homes out as 'party homes', or allow 20 people to stay in a 2 bedroom home causing parking, noise and trash issues for the neighborhood then there should be a way for the town to step in and impose a heavy fine. I'm really just not a fan of the current stance which seems to be one complaint equals a ban from renting. Seems a bit heavy handed and "un-New Hampshire -like". Final point - what does the mandatory inspection process accomplish? Not sure that solves for noise, trash and parking issues.

TiltonBB · 02-18-2019, 07:24 AM

The Laconia Daily Sun:

Marc Burrell complained to the City Council last week about any efforts to regulate short-term Airbnb-type rentals:

“If you start regulating people and start wanting to charge to come in and inspect my house, I’m just going to stop doing it. If I feel that way, how many other people feel that way? This is a tourist town. It’s always had rentals. Now with the age of the Internet, people from all over the world come here. To start regulating it because of one or two people, you are just going to lose it. It brings a lot of revenue into this town.”

Woodsy · 02-19-2019, 09:45 AM

AirBnb & VRBO are great business ideas... they just need to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

Operate in the proper zone... pay the room & meals tax... pay the income tax...

Woodsy

exlakesregioner · 02-19-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

AirBnb & VRBO are great business ideas... they just need to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

Operate in the proper zone... pay the room & meals tax... pay the income tax...

Woodsy

Best quote ever!! Love it that just because we have the internet everyone should be able to do what they want. Kinda like the same deal with Uber and Lyft, for years taxi companies have had to pay $$$ for the right to do business (esp at airports) and now anyone can do it without the regs? Was always don't meet strangers from the internet, it's not safe, never get into a strangers car, it's not safe...now just call from an APP and get into a car with a stranger!!

Biggd · 02-19-2019, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by exlakesregioner

Best quote ever!! Love it that just because we have the internet everyone should be able to do what they want. Kinda like the same deal with Uber and Lyft, for years taxi companies have had to pay $$$ for the right to do business (esp at airports) and now anyone can do it without the regs? Was always don't meet strangers from the internet, it's not safe, never get into a strangers car, it's not safe...now just call from an APP and get into a car with a stranger!!

I'm not sure a taxi is any safer. Bottom line, always be aware of your surroundings.

Woodsy · 02-19-2019, 07:19 PM

Interesting take. NYC is def hostile to AirBnb....... Kind of takes the "tourist area" out of the argument.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/tech/...ity/index.html

Woodsy

nitrovandam · 06-19-2019, 03:22 PM

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I'm not sure a taxi is any safer. Bottom line, always be aware of your surroundings.

I am and do. LOL, that's why I'm leaving. KA-BOOM !!! Carry on, Please complete you task of Ruining NH.

laketrout · 07-09-2019, 06:01 AM

I have had properties In Both Southdown and Long Bay and for a time both. July 4th week I saw many renters in Long Bay and SDS from what a friend told me South Down still has many renters. One was my neighbors house, I Said hello and it took me a few minutes and the man told me they were renting for the week. Nice folks no issues they are quieter then some of my full time neighbors. I am guessing they were relatives of the owners. Wink wink..How do you enforce or investigate that? So we now pit neighbor against neighbor in The Im Going to rat you out for renting saga.
With high taxes I’m sure the owner is trying to cover part of his taxes or Hoa’s fees. I do not rent my property out, = this is another unenforceable law and don’t we have bigger fish to fry with all the issues plaguing our cities and towns? The city of Laconia should spend a more time coming up with a Master plan for the Weirs Beach area which has languished for decades without any clear vision or direction of what it could be.

garysanfran · 07-09-2019, 06:23 AM

My neighbor (full-time resident) had 24 guests in a two bedroom house for four days. Well behaved and quieter than I was expecting. But, I would not want it all summer (or for another four days). You may be able to enforce control on short-term renters if they violate their agreement. However, I have no control, nor agreement, with my full-time neighbors, unless it gets really out-of-control... Then my relationship with them would be ruined forever.

I would imagine there are no rules regarding over night guests in one's home.

TiltonBB · 11-22-2019, 07:04 AM

It looks like Laconia officials may be softening their position on short term rentals. However, the Mayor continues to drive the discussion against them.

I disagree with his opinion that short term rentals are almost always a negative. This whole discussion is because of a few isolated incidents with problem properties

He also states that he wants to return to families in neighborhoods with more kids playing in the streets. If that is his goal here is what will help: Take away the Iphones, disconnect the cable TV, and shut off the computers. I am not advocating that but the Mayor seems to wish to go back to the 50's and 60's and that is not going to happen.

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...b3bcaeb3b.html

01-31-2019, 07:06 PM	#3
greeleyhill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 94 Thanks: 57 Thanked 22 Times in 11 Posts	Couldn't agree more with the comments above! Spot on. A very high percentage of the short term rentals in the area are managed and run the right way. For folks who are responsible and vet their renters thoroughly, they should be allowed to continue renting their property. Good for them - they've invested in Laconia real estate and are bringing business into the area...and Laconia definitely needs it! Most guests are families, in many cases, multi-generational, who are looking to rent a home and have all the amenities of home on their family vacation - not a stay at an old/dated and crowded hotel in the summer. Hotel options are very limited. If however, there are repeat offenders who rent their homes out as 'party homes', or allow 20 people to stay in a 2 bedroom home causing parking, noise and trash issues for the neighborhood then there should be a way for the town to step in and impose a heavy fine. I'm really just not a fan of the current stance which seems to be one complaint equals a ban from renting. Seems a bit heavy handed and "un-New Hampshire -like". Final point - what does the mandatory inspection process accomplish? Not sure that solves for noise, trash and parking issues.

02-18-2019, 07:24 AM	#4
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,005 Thanks: 699 Thanked 2,203 Times in 937 Posts	Complain to the City Council The Laconia Daily Sun: Marc Burrell complained to the City Council last week about any efforts to regulate short-term Airbnb-type rentals: “If you start regulating people and start wanting to charge to come in and inspect my house, I’m just going to stop doing it. If I feel that way, how many other people feel that way? This is a tourist town. It’s always had rentals. Now with the age of the Internet, people from all over the world come here. To start regulating it because of one or two people, you are just going to lose it. It brings a lot of revenue into this town.”

02-19-2019, 09:45 AM	#5
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	AirBnb & VRBO are great business ideas... they just need to abide by the same rules as everyone else. Operate in the proper zone... pay the room & meals tax... pay the income tax... Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

02-19-2019, 07:19 PM	#8
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	Interesting take. NYC is def hostile to AirBnb....... Kind of takes the "tourist area" out of the argument. https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/tech/...ity/index.html Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

07-09-2019, 06:01 AM	#10
laketrout Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Long Bay/ Paugus bay Posts: 115 Thanks: 128 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Another unenforceable law I have had properties In Both Southdown and Long Bay and for a time both. July 4th week I saw many renters in Long Bay and SDS from what a friend told me South Down still has many renters. One was my neighbors house, I Said hello and it took me a few minutes and the man told me they were renting for the week. Nice folks no issues they are quieter then some of my full time neighbors. I am guessing they were relatives of the owners. Wink wink..How do you enforce or investigate that? So we now pit neighbor against neighbor in The Im Going to rat you out for renting saga. With high taxes I’m sure the owner is trying to cover part of his taxes or Hoa’s fees. I do not rent my property out, = this is another unenforceable law and don’t we have bigger fish to fry with all the issues plaguing our cities and towns? The city of Laconia should spend a more time coming up with a Master plan for the Weirs Beach area which has languished for decades without any clear vision or direction of what it could be. Last edited by laketrout; 07-09-2019 at 06:43 AM.

01-31-2019, 07:40 AM	#1
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,005 Thanks: 699 Thanked 2,203 Times in 937 Posts	All of this attention because of an insignificant number of complaints. The officials are once again talking about more regulation and expense to both the homeowner and the city. They suggest fire inspections and a local party to call if there is a parking or noise violation. Don't those parking and noise laws already exist? Isn't the police department capable of handling a noise or parking complaint? We don't need more regulation in the "Live Free or Die" state.

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07-09-2019, 06:23 AM	#11
garysanfran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Francisco/Meredith Posts: 1,570 Thanks: 663 Thanked 679 Times in 347 Posts	July 4th neighbors... My neighbor (full-time resident) had 24 guests in a two bedroom house for four days. Well behaved and quieter than I was expecting. But, I would not want it all summer (or for another four days). You may be able to enforce control on short-term renters if they violate their agreement. However, I have no control, nor agreement, with my full-time neighbors, unless it gets really out-of-control... Then my relationship with them would be ruined forever. I would imagine there are no rules regarding over night guests in one's home. __________________ Gary ~~~~_/) ~~~ ~~~~~~~~

11-22-2019, 07:04 AM	#12
TiltonBB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilford, NH and Florida Posts: 3,005 Thanks: 699 Thanked 2,203 Times in 937 Posts	It looks like Laconia officials may be softening their position on short term rentals. However, the Mayor continues to drive the discussion against them. I disagree with his opinion that short term rentals are almost always a negative. This whole discussion is because of a few isolated incidents with problem properties He also states that he wants to return to families in neighborhoods with more kids playing in the streets. If that is his goal here is what will help: Take away the Iphones, disconnect the cable TV, and shut off the computers. I am not advocating that but the Mayor seems to wish to go back to the 50's and 60's and that is not going to happen. https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...b3bcaeb3b.html