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[Spider Girl]

For the life of me, I don't understand why the State and/or town doesn't require the registration of ice houses. Implicit in the registration would be clean up at the end of the season. There could be some policing (matching ice house with number and location) during the season. Then, if the trash and debris is not removed when the ice house leaves, authorities would know whom to fine.

It is extremely thoughtless of people to think that it is all right to pollute the lakes or that someone else will just take care of their mess.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Spider Girl

For the life of me, I don't understand why the State and/or town doesn't require the registration of ice houses. Implicit in the registration would be clean up at the end of the season. There could be some policing (matching ice house with number and location) during the season. Then, if the trash and debris is not removed when the ice house leaves, authorities would know whom to fine.



It is extremely thoughtless of people to think that it is all right to pollute the lakes or that someone else will just take care of their mess.

It could be difficult to enforce but I am absolutely with you on this. It completely disrespectful for people to leave there crap on the ice for others to clean up later in addition to damage that can be caused to boats and individuals after ice out.


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[SAB1]

Somewhat agree. No need for leaving trash on the ice. However, if you ice fish and have a bob house it’s not uncommon for them to moved a few times during the winter so enforcement would be tough.

[upthesaukee]

It's pretty simple: if you go backpacking, what you carry in, you pack out.

When you bring a bob house out on the ice, you pack everything back in when you leave.

If you see someone not bringing all their stuff off the lake, take a picture of them, and if possible, a picture of them at their vehicle. Send to F&G or NHMP.

Dave

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

It's pretty simple: if you go backpacking, what you carry in, you pack out.

When you bring a bob house out on the ice, you pack everything back in when you leave.

If you see someone not bringing all their stuff off the lake, take a picture of them, and if possible, a picture of them at their vehicle. Send to F&G or NHMP.

Dave

If F & G or NHMP issues a sticker or placard ( I am not opposed to a small fee as long as the funds stay with MP or F & G) the must be displayed on the bobhouse then all you would need to do is send them over the plate or card number and they can do the rest.

[Descant]

Litter is not just a problem on the ice. Snowmobile trails, ATV trails etc are losing mileage because landowners don't want to deal with the trash that is buried in the snow alongside the trails, and they lose landowner permission. The clubs work with the state on trail maintenance and they are enforcing carry in, carry out, with their members. A good plan.
I don't see that a new fee would be sufficient to hire additional CO's to work year round, and seasonal employees are very difficult to hire as we know from other threads.
As with many issues here, a few people draw a lot of irritated posts. I am always grateful to those who pick up the ice after otters and retrieve hazards to navigation after ice out.
From Parks and Rec, volunteer First Responders, Selectmen and legislators and "Friends of" groups, NH is run by volunteers. That's our heritage and our culture, and that's part of what makes NH a great state. More fees and licenses don't make me happy.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Descant

Litter is not just a problem on the ice. Snowmobile trails, ATV trails etc are losing mileage because landowners don't want to deal with the trash that is buried in the snow alongside the trails, and they lose landowner permission. The clubs work with the state on trail maintenance and they are enforcing carry in, carry out, with their members. A good plan.
I don't see that a new fee would be sufficient to hire additional CO's to work year round, and seasonal employees are very difficult to hire as we know from other threads.
As with many issues here, a few people draw a lot of irritated posts. I am always grateful to those who pick up the ice after otters and retrieve hazards to navigation after ice out.
From Parks and Rec, volunteer First Responders, Selectmen and legislators and "Friends of" groups, NH is run by volunteers. That's our heritage and our culture, and that's part of what makes NH a great state. More fees and licenses don't make me happy.

I am not saying a large fee, may 10.00 to provide a registration sticker that must be on the bobhouse just like a sled. This way it will aid us in self policing, just call MP or F & G when you see an infraction and it is easy id for them to do their job and enforce the laws including littering.

[Descant]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I am not saying a large fee, may 10.00 to provide a registration sticker that must be on the bobhouse just like a sled. This way it will aid us in self policing, just call MP or F & G when you see an infraction and it is easy id for them to do their job and enforce the laws including littering.

OK. Let's say 5000 bob houses on 960 lakes. Nah, lets say 10,000 x $10. Enough to hire one full time CO with benefits and a vehicle. It is difficult to justify to the legislature that 2.5 months of ice fishing justifies that fee. These fishermen are already paying a fee for a fishing license. Why should they be charged more than a summer fisherman? Pretend you're on a legislative committee and ask the questions. There are many more. Just pretend and ask yourself.

[Outdoorsman]

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

It's pretty simple: if you go backpacking, what you carry in, you pack out.

When you bring a bob house out on the ice, you pack everything back in when you leave.

If you see someone not bringing all their stuff off the lake, take a picture of them, and if possible, a picture of them at their vehicle. Send to F&G or NHMP.

Dave

Surely you realize that it is not practical to "pack out" a BOBHOUSE each day.

Fee's are not the answer either unless you want every outdoor sport to rise in price so LE can hit the lakes in the winter to log each bobhouse. If they do not log them, they would never know who was there in the winter....

A couple of years ago I posted an article that was in the LADS referencing this very issue. It would seem that great improvements have been made, but it is the few that ruin it for the many.

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...ght=trash+lake

[upthesaukee]

Originally Posted by Outdoorsman

Surely you realize that it is not practical to "pack out" a BOBHOUSE each day.

Fee's are not the answer either unless you want every outdoor sport to rise in price so LE can hit the lakes in the winter to log each bobhouse. If they do not log them, they would never know who was there in the winter....

A couple of years ago I posted an article that was in the LADS referencing this very issue. It would seem that great improvements have been made, but it is the few that ruin it for the many.

https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...ght=trash+lake

Not daily. You put it out. When you are pulling the bob house to go elsewhere or call it a season, clean up the site and take your garbage with you; 2x4 blocks etc. I live in Alton Bay and know that we have a village on the ice. I also know that some leave junk behind when they pull the bob houses off the ice or move elsewhere.

Dave