Faro for sale at the Weirs

[8gv]

I know nothing about Faro being for sale but...

This is likely to be a very aggravating hiring season.

In the restaurant business you have two places that make life miserable.

No business or no help.

Again, I know nothing about their situation but if I were on the fence about leaving, this coming summer would likely push me over.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by 8gv

I know nothing about Faro being for sale but...

This is likely to be a very aggravating hiring season.

In the restaurant business you have two places that make life miserable.

No business or no help.

Again, I know nothing about their situation but if I were on the fence about leaving, this coming summer would likely push me over.

Just like last season. I hope it’s not a repeat of restaurants not being able to use their full capacity because tables cannot be covered by wait and bus staff.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Just like last season. I hope it’s not a repeat of restaurants not being able to use their full capacity because tables cannot be covered by wait and bus staff.


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So far I've haven't experienced that at the places I've gone but it may change as the peak season approaches.

[fatlazyless]

So, I've never set foot inside Faro, or the prior Lobster Pound, so how much do you expect to pay there for a big, fancy-dancy dinner with everything?

www.faroitaliangrille.com/menu ..... looks very expensive compared to staying home and making tuna fish, rice, and canned pineapple aka a one pot backpacker style dish!

Face it ..... the Weirs Beach area is basically doomed to be an economic flop forever .... if you want to pin the blame on any one reason .... attach fault to the NH Veteran's Assoc line of about eight old, waterfront monstrosity, seasonal buildings that line Shoreline Drive, across from the public docks ..... and, ditto that blame for Bike Week, too.

One big reason why the NH Veteran's Assoc buildings can survive on that waterfront land is because it pays no property taxes and makes most of its revenue from sidewalk space rental use during Bike Week. Enough revenue to maintain the buildings with new roof shingles, new exterior paint, and ongoing maintenance. In 1923 or so, the NH legislature some how donated the land to the Veterans Assoc, so it will probably be there, forever.

These NH Veterans building basically occupy commercial waterfront land, and are basically unoccupied, 95% of the time. Is it a museum for these old, unheated, un-foundationed, seasonal, Civil War era buildings ..... or what is it?

It is what it is, as they say, which is what you say, when there's nothing else to say .... you don't say!

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

So, I've never set foot inside Faro, or the prior Lobster Pound, so how much do you expect to pay there for a big, fancy-dancy dinner with everything?

www.faroitaliangrille.com/menu ..... looks very expensive compared to staying home and making tuna fish, rice, and canned pineapple aka a one pot backpacker style dish!

Face it ..... the Weirs Beach area is basically doomed to be an economic flop forever .... if you want to pin the blame on any one reason .... attach fault to the NH Veteran's Assoc line of about eight old, waterfront monstrosity, seasonal buildings that line Shoreline Drive, across from the public docks ..... and, ditto that blame for Bike Week, too.

One big reason why the NH Veteran's Assoc buildings can survive on that waterfront land is because it pays no property taxes and makes most of its revenue from sidewalk space rental use during Bike Week. Enough revenue to maintain the buildings with new roof shingles, new exterior paint, and ongoing maintenance. In 1923 or so, the NH legislature some how donated the land to the Veterans Assoc, so it will probably be there, forever.

These NH Veterans building basically occupy commercial waterfront land, and are basically unoccupied, 95% of the time. Is it a museum for these old, unheated, un-foundationed, seasonal, Civil War era buildings ..... or what is it?

It is what it is, as they say, which is what you say, when there's nothing else to say .... you don't say!

They are a little more expensive than your usual hang out, McDonalds.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

So, I've never set foot inside Faro, or the prior Lobster Pound, so how much do you expect to pay there for a big, fancy-dancy dinner with everything?

www.faroitaliangrille.com/menu ..... looks very expensive compared to staying home and making tuna fish, rice, and canned pineapple aka a one pot backpacker style dish!

Face it ..... the Weirs Beach area is basically doomed to be an economic flop forever .... if you want to pin the blame on any one reason .... attach fault to the NH Veteran's Assoc line of about eight old, waterfront monstrosity, seasonal buildings that line Shoreline Drive, across from the public docks ..... and, ditto that blame for Bike Week, too.

One big reason why the NH Veteran's Assoc buildings can survive on that waterfront land is because it pays no property taxes and makes most of its revenue from sidewalk space rental use during Bike Week. Enough revenue to maintain the buildings with new roof shingles, new exterior paint, and ongoing maintenance. In 1923 or so, the NH legislature some how donated the land to the Veterans Assoc, so it will probably be there, forever.

These NH Veterans building basically occupy commercial waterfront land, and are basically unoccupied, 95% of the time. Is it a museum for these old, unheated, un-foundationed, seasonal, Civil War era buildings ..... or what is it?

It is what it is, as they say, which is what you say, when there's nothing else to say .... you don't say!

Please explain how bike week negatively impacts the Weirs or redevelopment of it? It occurs before peak season. Biketember fest was a huge economic booster last year as well.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

Please explain how bike week negatively impacts the Weirs or redevelopment of it? It occurs before peak season. Biketember fest was a huge economic booster last year as well.

I think his point is that land remains stagnant and undeveloped in the area because the owners are happy with just the income generated by bike week. I am certainly not against bike week but I would also like to see the Weir’s turnaround and be redeveloped for more of a 365 day a year benefit not just 2 weeks in June and a week in September


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[LIforrelaxin]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I think his point is that land remains stagnant and undeveloped in the area because the owners are happy with just the income generated by bike week. I am certainly not against bike week but I would also like to see the Weir’s turnaround and be redeveloped for more of a 365 day a year benefit not just 2 weeks in June and a week in September


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So this is indeed one of the issue. Land owners create significant amounts of money with just bike week, because of it popularity. Why would you want to invest more money, if your making a profit that your happy with by sitting on undeveloped land.....

I have stated many times, that the State and the City of Laconia, need to work with the land owners to make it viable to develop some of the large parcels of land, and do it in such a way that will invite other events (craft fairs, boat shows, etc.) into the area.... That area down there could become so much more, and not loose the Weirs image... But all involved need to want it... However if they wait just enough longer, it will become the next Meredith tourist area and will be lost... As high Stakes developers will move in....

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin

So this is indeed one of the issue. Land owners create significant amounts of money with just bike week, because of it popularity. Why would you want to invest more money, if your making a profit that your happy with by sitting on undeveloped land.....

I have stated many times, that the State and the City of Laconia, need to work with the land owners to make it viable to develop some of the large parcels of land, and do it in such a way that will invite other events (craft fairs, boat shows, etc.) into the area.... That area down there could become so much more, and not loose the Weirs image... But all involved need to want it... However if they wait just enough longer, it will become the next Meredith tourist area and will be lost... As high Stakes developers will move in....

I don't think they will ever become the next Meredith if that's what you are worried about. Their taxes is too high to encourage development and they discourage change.

[Woodsy]

Believe it or not... there is not a whole lot more that can be done when it comes to Weirs development without possibly incurring HUGE expense!

I think the biggest stumbling block will be the archaeology of the area.... as we came to see in the failed bid for the Drive-In. All it will take is the discovery of bones or artifacts and the project stops dead.

The parcel next to Cumby's could sell to a hotel chain, but archaeology.... not to mention court battles with the Veterans when it comes to runoff, noise, etc etc.

Faro property could sell... but developing the field above? archaeology....

So when you couple the high initial purchase price, with the potential to find bones or artifacts, The Weirs quickly becomes a developers nightmare.

Surf Coaster could be rezoned and become a residential neighborhood, but the city has clearly indicated they want a hotel there.

Woodsy

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Believe it or not... there is not a whole lot more that can be done when it comes to Weirs development without possibly incurring HUGE expense!

I think the biggest stumbling block will be the archaeology of the area.... as we came to see in the failed bid for the Drive-In. All it will take is the discovery of bones or artifacts and the project stops dead.

The parcel next to Cumby's could sell to a hotel chain, but archaeology.... not to mention court battles with the Veterans when it comes to runoff, noise, etc etc.

Faro property could sell... but developing the field above? archaeology....

So when you couple the high initial purchase price, with the potential to find bones or artifacts, The Weirs quickly becomes a developers nightmare.

Surf Coaster could be rezoned and become a residential neighborhood, but the city has clearly indicated they want a hotel there.

Woodsy

I knew the archaeological issues with the Drive In but did not know the parcel next to Cumby had the same issues. As far as run off and noise those issues can be easily resolved

The city can hope for a hotel all they want at the Surf Coaster site but if they are not willing to assist and facilitate the project no one will develop the location.

As "LI" has stated you need 3 interested parties (owner, developer and city) working together for a common goal of improve the area and economy of the city but until this happens the area will stay stagnant

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I knew the archaeological issues with the Drive In but did not know the parcel next to Cumby had the same issues. As far as run off and noise those issues can be easily resolved

The city can hope for a hotel all they want at the Surf Coaster site but if they are not willing to assist and facilitate the project no one will develop the location.

As "LI" has stated you need 3 interested parties (owner, developer and city) working together for a common goal of improve the area and economy of the city but until this happens the area will stay stagnant

The Surf Coaster site is not an great site for a hotel developer, no view of the lake. On the other hand the property next to Cumby has a nice view and would be an ideal hotel site if city could get their act together.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

The Surf Coaster site is not an great site for a hotel developer, no view of the lake. On the other hand the property next to Cumby has a nice view and would be an ideal hotel site if city could get their act together.

I agree it’s not a great site but the city is hung up on it unfortunately


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[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

So far I've haven't experienced that at the places I've gone but it may change as the peak season approaches.

That’s what concerns me, the peak season. I truly hope that I am wrong and the local restaurants can hire a full staff to accommodate patrons.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

That’s what concerns me, the peak season. I truly hope that I am wrong and the local restaurants can hire a full staff to accommodate patrons.


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The more expensive places will get all the good help. They tend to make more money in tips because the tabs are higher. The smaller mom and pop places will have a had time finding quality help. I'm sure price increases will follow.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

The more expensive places will get all the good help. They tend to make more money in tips because the tabs are higher. The smaller mom and pop places will have a had time finding quality help. I'm sure price increases will follow.

Last year twice while eating at Canoe they were not using all their tables because of low wait and bus staff.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Last year twice while eating at Canoe they were not using all their tables because of low wait and bus staff.

Employees have the upper hand for a change. My wife took a retirement buy out from her
company with 2 years pay and health insurance.
She just got a part time job in retail working 3 days a week 5 hours a day to keep busy. She told them she wasn't going to work weekends or more than 3 days a week. That doesn't stop them from asking but they are so strained for employees right now that she calls the shots.
It's a good time to be retired and pick up a part time job.

[Taz]

Don't worry THE DIVE is coming to the Weirs! That will fix everything.