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The Dive is not visible on Weirs cam right now. Traveling or moved??
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The Pier is a commercial entity that has always had boats docked there. While I do sympathize with the property owners, they did buy next to a commercial enterprise and have to expect issues like this to arise.
Because the Dive is registered & licensed vessel, (that can and will leave & return) I seriously doubt the Pier is violating ANY town ordinances by having it docked at the end. Woodsy
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I agree with your earlier comment. I think they may stay at the pier a lot more than people think or they say. Many customers and not the headaches of driving long distances and then running out of supplies so far away. They said them selves that was a challenge for them. |
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Taz - I respectfully disagree with only one of your comments ….. I see Patrician as an ideal location (somewhat closer than Braun) that area has vast sandbar area for the Spuds & draws a good sized crowd. Yes, it drops off quickly but again plenty of shoreline to find a spot provided they arrive before 10:00a.
The other unmentioned spot -- and it is where I think they will go often is to the Margate ……….. provided that they can fit under the bridge. Again, they would have to transport early so as to avoid the channel congestion. All in all -- I like the idea of the Dive on the Lake -- I also can sympathize with the abutters view & their concerns -- yet, the Dive adds new character to the Lake, certainly is a talking piece when taking visitors on a ride, presents a unique place to take visitors periodically ….. but I have to admit (yes I have been aboard a few times) not a place you would hang out at every weekend....unfortunately- seems everyone here has been trying to "sink" it from the onset.
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Margate is not unmentioned. I referred to it in an earlier post today and it has been mentioned in other Dive threads previously. I think the Margate is the best spot for the Dive especially now that they are docked at Weirs. Its large, a lot of boats and minimal impact to shore front properties. The challenge will be navigating the channel. Work barges I am told go early morning and late in the day. It would be very difficult for 2 way traffic when the Dive is in the channel. |
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Weirs Beach does have a separate noise ordinance than the city does.... no amplified music outside after 10:30pm, with the exception being Bike Week. I don't think noisy patrons at the restaurant at the end of the Pier will qualify as a noise complaint in a zone that is designated commercial resort. You were totally within your rights to argue with China Bistro... you could hear that thumping bass 1/2 way across the lake! Woodsy
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![]() Also, if this boat is just tied up to the Wiers what is really the point of going on it? Then it just becomes another restaurant with a nice view, but really the quality of the food IMO does not justify going on there if it is tied up to the pier, especially with so many other options all around it. Now when it was at West Alton it was the only option so the food was great and it was certainly fun to jump on, grab a beer and some snacks with friends and family... |
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At least Weirs is more commercial than West Alton so the neighbors must be used the noise and the food smells. It's probably only the blocking of their view that bothers them although I don't know that. I do know we have friends who live in the West Alton area that are very happy it's not there anymore. They got sick of the smells and the noise at night-apparently especially the not very talented karaoke singers.
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In my belief in order to survive, the DIVE needs to be as mobile as possible, visiting different locations for the day ever weekend. I could deal with a party next door for a day, most people I believe can... Having the party next door every weekend does get a bit old. OR The dive needs to find a location where they can conduct business everyday, no matter the weather. And once in a while venture out when conditions are right or they have a chartered engagement. This appears to be what they are attempting this year. How much they will venture out seems to be the real question... And it will be answered over the course of the summer.
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With the many establishment owners who are -- I find it odd that after two years there is no one from the Dive on this Forum …
Certainly they are aware of it (I personally told them a couple of times last season) ……………. or are they simply "Lurking" !! ![]()
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Isn't there a local Laconia attorney who used to be Mayor of Laconia who advertises on the front page of the LaDaSun ..... so he must be look'n for new clients ..... as the former mayor .... he could be an attorney familiar with the local agencies and good to represent a Simpson Ave home owner look'n for a legal remedy.
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Sometime back there was some info about the Dive trying to work with Wolfeboro to use public docks. It appeared to me that they had already scheduled some Wolfeboro charters.
Any more info on that? (I think the issues of distance, etc. have already been thrashed around.) |
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I never heard anything about Wolfeboro. I'm sure Jo Green's wouldn't like it much. It would be a terrible match anyway. Wolfeboro isn't exactly a Dive kinda place. The Weir's is a good home for it. It's just too bad they're abusing that dock by sticking 65 feet out in the wrong direction and being a bad neighbor.
I think people will have to hold onto their drinks if they're going to stay broadside to the waves that might be there in the summer. Things get tough on the Akwa docks. I assume it's similar broadside to the water on winni pier. |
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...... here comes the dive ...... very slowly ....... coming down the passage between Bear and Mark Island and maybe..... probably?.....going to its Weirs home port ...... there it is ..... looks like a big white shoe box or something.....or like a big gypsy boxy house boat or something..... is pointed directly at me ..... so's think I'll go hit the lake and wave as it goes by ..... who knows ..... will probably adjust course ..... is moving very slowly ..... at about maybe 4-mph ....definitely a no wake speed ..... gotta hit the water ..... is actually sorta nice look'n out there ....... everyone just loves the dive! ....... weeoooooooo!
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I saw the Dive go by this morning and when it returned this afternoon. It goes really slow and those big Evinrudes were revving pretty loud. It does look like a big shoebox. With all that upper weight i’d be concerned about it tipping over.
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The engines and their longevity are of course in question. As with all the other barges I see around the lake I will not be suprised to see engines being replaced, from time to time... The beauty of outboards is that swapping them out should be pretty straight forward. If I owned the Dive, I would be strongly considering going to an external tug to move around the lake with, and making the barge just that a barge..... A separate tug can be setup, to have much more thrust power to push that barge around, and have a very reliable and long lasting diesel engine.... ![]()
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Here's an el cheapo solution that could be a fun thing to do. Get six of those used, long black paddle board paddles for short money from Ekal in Meredith,
and allow customers to help move the barge by paddling it along as it goes ...... hey everyone, who wants to paddle? ....... and maybe give them some courtesy Cheez-its for energy ....... Cheez-it paddle power on The Dive! Paddles actually have a lot of torque and orange Cheez-its will float!
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All these comments about the Dive by lots of people who haven't even been on it. Give it a try before you bash the place!
The Dive is BEYOND stable, and has USCG certification and has been inspected by NHMP. Woodsy
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I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park. The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni. It's astonishingly "fugly". Tied up on the waterfront is just fine. Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.
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Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct? Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?
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The Dive seems to move along at 4-mph and will drop anchor on top of a shallow sandbar for four hours, trying to attract boaters to drop anchor and wade through the water to get on-board The Dive for purchasing food and adult drinks. It will stop at a shallow water sand bar, stay in place, and wait for the business to show up.
With people climbing in and out of their boats like this, there's a good chance for different types of pollution. It's much more of an uncontrolled situation for all the pollution items mentioned in my above post. Items like food packaging, napkins, food items and human waste getting into the lake are more likely to happen. ............... The Mount Washington moves along at 22-mph and makes predesignated brief stops at the various town docks. No one goes from boat to water to sandbar to a private smaller boat, along the way ....... everyone stays on-board the 220' ship. The Mount is a much more controlled, safer and clean lake cruise.
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![]() ![]() I didn't think anyone else was noticing this line of exaggerated line of BS. For the record I'm not a big Dive Supporter never went on board, but I don't hate it either. Post 189 Before it gets edited into something else, Quote:
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Seems to me that the dive provides a very good service when anchored on a sand bar, namely: it has a toilet available.
Those here who fear the possibility of human waste contaminating the lake should feel better when the dive is anchored as it gives all the rafters an actual toilet to use as opposed to simply "doing their business" in the lake as is the only option otherwise. Were I a betting man (and I am) I'd be willing to bet the farm that the dive has a holding tank for the on borad toilet(s) as opposed to simply letting effluent flow into the lake (duh). They provide a much needed service, at least for those rafters who actually bother to choose to use the toilet(s).
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Nice attempt at deflection. There are a lot of things I like & alot that I don't. The dive is ugly. The dive is like a food truck in the middle of a state park trail. The dive is out of place anchored on a sandbar. These things are true by themselves, independent of any other thing.
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Actually, my only issue with The Dive is when it is not, as I would define, neighborly. Anchoring out all day, every day in one place infringed on people's use of that resource. The hot dog cart in a state park analogy is apt--I made a similar point a year or so ago. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk |
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Information I have is that the Dive will be at Lakeshore Park this Thursday 7/5(weather permitting) !!
I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.
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Two times last week, we saw the Dive heading towards Braun Bay, coming from the northwest beyond Bear Island. Curious where she has been during the night. She moves right along for her size. 🐻
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Every night the Dive returns to the Weirs Dock. {edited by the moderator}
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Hmmm - did I have a typo?
I see Don already corrected whatever it was, thanks Don !
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