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Old 05-23-2019, 08:20 AM   #1
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I just posed the question on their Facebook page to see if they have some type of schedule this season for visiting sand bars.

Also from their Facebook page they are selling tickets to board this weekend. The tickets are good for the day and you can board and disembark as you wish so obviously they are staying put this weekend.

Additionally looks like when the Weirs have their fireworks shows you will be able to board.

All this is making me lean towards they are not venturing out this season but I will report back when I have an answer


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I don't think there would be any schedule. I think they want to make the decision to go to a sand bar as last minute as possible due to weather, wind, chop etc. I would think they definitely will stay put until there are enough boaters/people and the water is warm enough to get in the water and walk at a sand bar. My guess is earliest would be mid to late June but maybe later.
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I don't think there would be any schedule. I think they want to make the decision to go to a sand bar as last minute as possible due to weather, wind, chop etc. I would think they definitely will stay put until there are enough boaters/people and the water is warm enough to get in the water and walk at a sand bar. My guess is earliest would be mid to late June but maybe later.
Really asking to see if they are going to venture out this season or are staying at the pier


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Really asking to see if they are going to venture out this season or are staying at the pier


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They have said on their FB page when asked this question that they will be going to sand bars, quote "they love their sandbar crowd"
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They have said on their FB page when asked this question that they will be going to sand bars, quote "they love their sandbar crowd"


Thanks Taz. I didn’t see your question and their response on their page. Hopefully good news for the neighborhood that it will be occasionally leaving.


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Thanks Taz. I didn’t see your question and their response on their page. Hopefully good news for the neighborhood that it will be occasionally leaving.


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It wasn't my question but I did see others asking and saw their quote to one of them. Still not sure I buy it though. Now they are further away from Braun Bay and Smalls Cove than last year. Going to Margate would also be a chore because it seems they would have to leave early morning and return after dark when the channel is not busy like work barges would. Then if they do go to Margate say on a Saturday they would lose out on pier business if they have to return later in the evening. Will have to see how it unfolds.
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The Dive is not visible on Weirs cam right now. Traveling or moved??
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The Dive is not visible on Weirs cam right now. Traveling or moved??
They're at the gas dock pumping out:
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It wasn't my question but I did see others asking and saw their quote to one of them. Still not sure I buy it though. Now they are further away from Braun Bay and Smalls Cove than last year. Going to Margate would also be a chore because it seems they would have to leave early morning and return after dark when the channel is not busy like work barges would. Then if they do go to Margate say on a Saturday they would lose out on pier business if they have to return later in the evening. Will have to see how it unfolds.
They are actually much closer to Braun Bay and can access other gathering spots like Timber Island and Patrician Shores


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The Pier is a commercial entity that has always had boats docked there. While I do sympathize with the property owners, they did buy next to a commercial enterprise and have to expect issues like this to arise.

Because the Dive is registered & licensed vessel, (that can and will leave & return) I seriously doubt the Pier is violating ANY town ordinances by having it docked at the end.

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Maybe closer to Braun, maybe wrong about that but its still probably a 2 hour ride given how slow it is. I don't see anyway they go to Timber. Its not a sand bar so you can not walk to it and they can not use spuds there, also not enough customers there. There would be much more business at Smalls and Braun. I think Patrician would be tough. Its not nearly as big as Smalls, Braun and if they don't get there early all the boats will box them out to get to shallow water to use spuds and walk to it. I would be very surprised if they go to Patrician.

I agree with your earlier comment. I think they may stay at the pier a lot more than people think or they say. Many customers and not the headaches of driving long distances and then running out of supplies so far away. They said them selves that was a challenge for them.
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Taz - I respectfully disagree with only one of your comments ….. I see Patrician as an ideal location (somewhat closer than Braun) that area has vast sandbar area for the Spuds & draws a good sized crowd. Yes, it drops off quickly but again plenty of shoreline to find a spot provided they arrive before 10:00a.

The other unmentioned spot -- and it is where I think they will go often is to the Margate ……….. provided that they can fit under the bridge. Again, they would have to transport early so as to avoid the channel congestion.

All in all -- I like the idea of the Dive on the Lake -- I also can sympathize with the abutters view & their concerns -- yet, the Dive adds new character to the Lake, certainly is a talking piece when taking visitors on a ride, presents a unique place to take visitors periodically ….. but I have to admit (yes I have been aboard a few times) not a place you would hang out at every weekend....unfortunately- seems everyone here has been trying to "sink" it from the onset.
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Taz - I respectfully disagree with only one of your comments ….. I see Patrician as an ideal location (somewhat closer than Braun) that area has vast sandbar area for the Spuds & draws a good sized crowd. Yes, it drops off quickly but again plenty of shoreline to find a spot provided they arrive before 10:00a.

The other unmentioned spot -- and it is where I think they will go often is to the Margate ……….. provided that they can fit under the bridge. Again, they would have to transport early so as to avoid the channel congestion.

All in all -- I like the idea of the Dive on the Lake -- I also can sympathize with the abutters view & their concerns -- yet, the Dive adds new character to the Lake, certainly is a talking piece when taking visitors on a ride, presents a unique place to take visitors periodically ….. but I have to admit (yes I have been aboard a few times) not a place you would hang out at every weekend....unfortunately- seems everyone here has been trying to "sink" it from the onset.
Well said Phantom. I agree with you completely on all accounts
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Taz - I respectfully disagree with only one of your comments ….. I see Patrician as an ideal location (somewhat closer than Braun) that area has vast sandbar area for the Spuds & draws a good sized crowd. Yes, it drops off quickly but again plenty of shoreline to find a spot provided they arrive before 10:00a.
Everything of course is all speculation. Who knows how it will unfold. At Patrician, you get mostly 1 line up of boats and then a few smaller ones get in behind that 1 line. I'm sure if you count up the boats there compared to Smalls, Braun and the Margate there is much more potential business at those locations than Patrician.

Margate is not unmentioned. I referred to it in an earlier post today and it has been mentioned in other Dive threads previously. I think the Margate is the best spot for the Dive especially now that they are docked at Weirs. Its large, a lot of boats and minimal impact to shore front properties. The challenge will be navigating the channel. Work barges I am told go early morning and late in the day. It would be very difficult for 2 way traffic when the Dive is in the channel.
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Taz - I respectfully disagree with only one of your comments ….. I see Patrician as an ideal location (somewhat closer than Braun) that area has vast sandbar area for the Spuds & draws a good sized crowd. Yes, it drops off quickly but again plenty of shoreline to find a spot provided they arrive before 10:00a.
Everything of course is all speculation. Who knows how it will unfold. At Patrician, you get mostly 1 line up of boats and then a few smaller ones get in behind that 1 line. I'm sure if you count up the boats there compared to Smalls, Braun and the Margate there is much more potential business at those locations than Patrician.

Margate is not unmentioned. I referred to it in an earlier post today and it has been mentioned in other Dive threads previously. I think the Margate is the best spot for the Dive especially now that they are docked at Weirs. Its large, a lot of boats and minimal impact to shore front properties. The challenge will be navigating the channel. Work barges I am told go early morning and late in the day. It would be very difficult for 2 way traffic when the Dive is in the channel.
That’s exactly what the Dive did last year. They were at the West Alton sand bar by 8 am and stayed till around 10 when the crowd died down.


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Weirs Beach does have a separate noise ordinance than the city does.... no amplified music outside after 10:30pm, with the exception being Bike Week.

I don't think noisy patrons at the restaurant at the end of the Pier will qualify as a noise complaint in a zone that is designated commercial resort.

You were totally within your rights to argue with China Bistro... you could hear that thumping bass 1/2 way across the lake!

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Taz - I respectfully disagree with only one of your comments ….. I see Patrician as an ideal location (somewhat closer than Braun) that area has vast sandbar area for the Spuds & draws a good sized crowd. Yes, it drops off quickly but again plenty of shoreline to find a spot provided they arrive before 10:00a.

The other unmentioned spot -- and it is where I think they will go often is to the Margate ……….. provided that they can fit under the bridge. Again, they would have to transport early so as to avoid the channel congestion.

All in all -- I like the idea of the Dive on the Lake -- I also can sympathize with the abutters view & their concerns -- yet, the Dive adds new character to the Lake, certainly is a talking piece when taking visitors on a ride, presents a unique place to take visitors periodically ….. but I have to admit (yes I have been aboard a few times) not a place you would hang out at every weekend....unfortunately- seems everyone here has been trying to "sink" it from the onset.
Very well said. This is likely the crowd that the Dive is looking for.
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This place is just a rumor, it doesn't actually exist so no way for them to go there

Also, if this boat is just tied up to the Wiers what is really the point of going on it? Then it just becomes another restaurant with a nice view, but really the quality of the food IMO does not justify going on there if it is tied up to the pier, especially with so many other options all around it.

Now when it was at West Alton it was the only option so the food was great and it was certainly fun to jump on, grab a beer and some snacks with friends and family...
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This place is just a rumor, it doesn't actually exist so no way for them to go there



Also, if this boat is just tied up to the Wiers what is really the point of going on it? Then it just becomes another restaurant with a nice view, but really the quality of the food IMO does not justify going on there if it is tied up to the pier, especially with so many other options all around it.

I agree I doubt I will go if it's just sitting there at the dock

Now when it was at West Alton it was the only option so the food was great and it was certainly fun to jump on, grab a beer and some snacks with friends and family...
Very true as it will be in places like Braun, Margate and the mythical Patrician Shores
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This place is just a rumor, it doesn't actually exist so no way for them to go there

Also, if this boat is just tied up to the Wiers what is really the point of going on it? Then it just becomes another restaurant with a nice view, but really the quality of the food IMO does not justify going on there if it is tied up to the pier, especially with so many other options all around it.

Now when it was at West Alton it was the only option so the food was great and it was certainly fun to jump on, grab a beer and some snacks with friends and family...
Totally agree with you on all points. I was saying the same thing to my spouse. "Its just another lakefront restaurant tied up." I have been on the Dive and the food is not as good as other restaurants, the drinks were ok but not for the price and I have had better drinks for cheaper at other lake front establishments. NASWA, Town Docks for instance have better food and better drinks at a cheaper price IMO. Plus you can boat to those establishments and tie up. I refuse to tie up at Weirs town docks as mentioned in many posts about Weirs town docks.
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Totally agree with you on all points. I was saying the same thing to my spouse. "Its just another lakefront restaurant tied up." I have been on the Dive and the food is not as good as other restaurants, the drinks were ok but not for the price and I have had better drinks for cheaper at other lake front establishments. NASWA, Town Docks for instance have better food and better drinks at a cheaper price IMO. Plus you can boat to those establishments and tie up. I refuse to tie up at Weirs town docks as mentioned in many posts about Weirs town docks.
Absolutely, the "charm" of the Dive is pulling up or wading over to it while out on the water not to walk to it from a dock and it sits still. As you mention I would much prefer Town Docks, NASWA or other various choices in Alton Wolfeboro, Center Harbor and Meredith
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At least Weirs is more commercial than West Alton so the neighbors must be used the noise and the food smells. It's probably only the blocking of their view that bothers them although I don't know that. I do know we have friends who live in the West Alton area that are very happy it's not there anymore. They got sick of the smells and the noise at night-apparently especially the not very talented karaoke singers. . But seriously, they were ready to sell.
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At least Weirs is more commercial than West Alton so the neighbors must be used the noise and the food smells. It's probably only the blocking of their view that bothers them although I don't know that. I do know we have friends who live in the West Alton area that are very happy it's not there anymore. They got sick of the smells and the noise at night-apparently especially the not very talented karaoke singers. . But seriously, they were ready to sell.
Doing the types of things the dive will need to do to survive, Karoke, having late night loud music, and crowds... are going to be a problem for people close by to where ever they may set up.

In my belief in order to survive, the DIVE needs to be as mobile as possible, visiting different locations for the day ever weekend. I could deal with a party next door for a day, most people I believe can... Having the party next door every weekend does get a bit old.

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The dive needs to find a location where they can conduct business everyday, no matter the weather. And once in a while venture out when conditions are right or they have a chartered engagement. This appears to be what they are attempting this year. How much they will venture out seems to be the real question... And it will be answered over the course of the summer.
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With the many establishment owners who are -- I find it odd that after two years there is no one from the Dive on this Forum …

Certainly they are aware of it (I personally told them a couple of times last season) ……………. or are they simply "Lurking" !!
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Doing the types of things the dive will need to do to survive, Karoke, having late night loud music, and crowds... are going to be a problem for people close by to where ever they may set up.

In my belief in order to survive, the DIVE needs to be as mobile as possible, visiting different locations for the day ever weekend. I could deal with a party next door for a day, most people I believe can... Having the party next door every weekend does get a bit old.

OR

The dive needs to find a location where they can conduct business everyday, no matter the weather. And once in a while venture out when conditions are right or they have a chartered engagement. This appears to be what they are attempting this year. How much they will venture out seems to be the real question... And it will be answered over the course of the summer.
I totally agree with you. Once in a while would be ok but every night would be tough. Who wants a loud party in their yard every night? I would think the noise and food smell wouldn't be an issue at the Weirs but where it is parked is an issue for the homeowners there. They almost have it figured out!!!
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Isn't there a local Laconia attorney who used to be Mayor of Laconia who advertises on the front page of the LaDaSun ..... so he must be look'n for new clients ..... as the former mayor .... he could be an attorney familiar with the local agencies and good to represent a Simpson Ave home owner look'n for a legal remedy.

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Sometime back there was some info about the Dive trying to work with Wolfeboro to use public docks. It appeared to me that they had already scheduled some Wolfeboro charters.
Any more info on that? (I think the issues of distance, etc. have already been thrashed around.)
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I never heard anything about Wolfeboro. I'm sure Jo Green's wouldn't like it much. It would be a terrible match anyway. Wolfeboro isn't exactly a Dive kinda place. The Weir's is a good home for it. It's just too bad they're abusing that dock by sticking 65 feet out in the wrong direction and being a bad neighbor.

I think people will have to hold onto their drinks if they're going to stay broadside to the waves that might be there in the summer. Things get tough on the Akwa docks. I assume it's similar broadside to the water on winni pier.
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...... here comes the dive ...... very slowly ....... coming down the passage between Bear and Mark Island and maybe..... probably?.....going to its Weirs home port ...... there it is ..... looks like a big white shoe box or something.....or like a big gypsy boxy house boat or something..... is pointed directly at me ..... so's think I'll go hit the lake and wave as it goes by ..... who knows ..... will probably adjust course ..... is moving very slowly ..... at about maybe 4-mph ....definitely a no wake speed ..... gotta hit the water ..... is actually sorta nice look'n out there ....... everyone just loves the dive! ....... weeoooooooo!
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I saw the Dive go by this morning and when it returned this afternoon. It goes really slow and those big Evinrudes were revving pretty loud. It does look like a big shoebox. With all that upper weight i’d be concerned about it tipping over.
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I saw the Dive go by this morning and when it returned this afternoon. It goes really slow and those big Evinrudes were revving pretty loud. It does look like a big shoebox. With all that upper weight i’d be concerned about it tipping over.
With the platform, a barge, that they built upon, and the speed at which she travels I don't think there is any reason to be concerned with a tipping issue.

The engines and their longevity are of course in question. As with all the other barges I see around the lake I will not be suprised to see engines being replaced, from time to time... The beauty of outboards is that swapping them out should be pretty straight forward.

If I owned the Dive, I would be strongly considering going to an external tug to move around the lake with, and making the barge just that a barge..... A separate tug can be setup, to have much more thrust power to push that barge around, and have a very reliable and long lasting diesel engine....

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Here's an el cheapo solution that could be a fun thing to do. Get six of those used, long black paddle board paddles for short money from Ekal in Meredith,

and allow customers to help move the barge by paddling it along as it goes ...... hey everyone, who wants to paddle? ....... and maybe give them

some courtesy Cheez-its for energy .......

Cheez-it paddle power on The Dive!

Paddles actually have a lot of torque and orange Cheez-its will float!
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All these comments about the Dive by lots of people who haven't even been on it. Give it a try before you bash the place!

The Dive is BEYOND stable, and has USCG certification and has been inspected by NHMP.

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The Dive is BEYOND stable, and has USCG certification and has been inspected by NHMP.

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I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you. Nothing on board is gonna change my mind.
I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park.
The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni.
It's astonishingly "fugly".
Tied up on the waterfront is just fine.
Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.
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I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you.
The mount is much bigger but I don't see people complaining about it.

Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct?

Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?
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The mount is much bigger but I don't see people complaining about it.

Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct?

Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?
The Mount and The Dive are an apples to oranges comparison. Trump and Obama are both Presidents so must be the same, right?
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The Dive seems to move along at 4-mph and will drop anchor on top of a shallow sandbar for four hours, trying to attract boaters to drop anchor and wade through the water to get on-board The Dive for purchasing food and adult drinks. It will stop at a shallow water sand bar, stay in place, and wait for the business to show up.

With people climbing in and out of their boats like this, there's a good chance for different types of pollution. It's much more of an uncontrolled situation for all the pollution items mentioned in my above post. Items like food packaging, napkins, food items and human waste getting into the lake are more likely to happen.

...............


The Mount Washington moves along at 22-mph and makes predesignated brief stops at the various town docks. No one goes from boat to water to sandbar to a private smaller boat, along the way ....... everyone stays on-board the 220' ship. The Mount is a much more controlled, safer and clean lake cruise.
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The Dive seems to move along at 4-mph and will drop anchor on top of a shallow sandbar for four hours, trying to attract boaters to drop anchor and wade through the water to get on-board The Dive for purchasing food and adult drinks. It will stop at a shallow water sand bar, stay in place, and wait for the business to show up.

With people climbing in and out of their boats like this, there's a good chance for different types of pollution. It's much more of an uncontrolled situation for all the pollution items mentioned in my above post. Items like food packaging, napkins, food items and human waste getting into the lake are more likely to happen.

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The Mount Washington moves along at 22-mph and makes predesignated brief stops at the various town docks. No one goes from boat to water to sandbar to a private smaller boat, along the way ....... everyone stays on-board the 220' ship. The Mount is a much more controlled, safer and clean lake cruise.
Sounds like an uninformed opinion about it polluting the lake. Anyone have evidence of what’s being said above or is it simply ignorant opinion trying to be represented as fact?


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Sounds like an uninformed opinion about it polluting the lake. Anyone have evidence of what’s being said above or is it simply ignorant opinion trying to be represented as fact?
Thank you ...

I didn't think anyone else was noticing this line of exaggerated line of BS.

For the record I'm not a big Dive Supporter never went on board, but I don't hate it either.

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It's one of those things I don't like to think about - all those people out rafting, swimming, and drinking - where are they going to the bathroom? Do I want to know???
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Seems to me that the dive provides a very good service when anchored on a sand bar, namely: it has a toilet available.

Those here who fear the possibility of human waste contaminating the lake should feel better when the dive is anchored as it gives all the rafters an actual toilet to use as opposed to simply "doing their business" in the lake as is the only option otherwise.

Were I a betting man (and I am) I'd be willing to bet the farm that the dive has a holding tank for the on borad toilet(s) as opposed to simply letting effluent flow into the lake (duh).

They provide a much needed service, at least for those rafters who actually bother to choose to use the toilet(s).
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Seems to me you're objecting only on the basis of design: it's too boxy, correct?

Why would anyone give the mount a bye yet criticize the dive?
Nice attempt at deflection. There are a lot of things I like & alot that I don't. The dive is ugly. The dive is like a food truck in the middle of a state park trail. The dive is out of place anchored on a sandbar. These things are true by themselves, independent of any other thing.
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... is just a waterborne food truck
Does it pollute the lake with urine, feces, gasoline, oil, trash, litter, junk debris, plastic, food container items, alcoholic beverage items or anything else originated from The Dive itself or coming from the attracted drive-in boaters at the different sand bar locations where it anchors in place to attract business?
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I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you. Nothing on board is gonna change my mind.

I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park.

The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni.

It's astonishingly "fugly".

Tied up on the waterfront is just fine.

Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.
Certainly your choice to like it or not to like it but it has all the necessary approvals to operate on the lake so it has every right to be there just as we do


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I don't have to go on it to dislike it. I dislike it from afar just fine thank you. Nothing on board is gonna change my mind.

I like food trucks. I don't want them parked in the middle of a state park.

The dive is just a waterborne food truck and it's parking in the middle of our state park of Winni.

It's astonishingly "fugly".

Tied up on the waterfront is just fine.

Spudded into a sandbar...not so much.
My daughter has a friend who is always “i don’t like this”, “i don’t like that”. When we ask “have you tried it?” She usually says “no”. Then how do you know? I didn’t like lobster until I was 21, then I tried it and found out what I was missing. Give the Dive a try. If you don’t like it then your view will carry some weight.


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My daughter has a friend who is always “i don’t like this”, “i don’t like that”. When we ask “have you tried it?” She usually says “no”. Then how do you know? I didn’t like lobster until I was 21, then I tried it and found out what I was missing. Give the Dive a try. If you don’t like it then your view will carry some weight.


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Seriously! Nice comparison. Did you have to think long and hard to come up with the comparatives?


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I also don't like cancer. Or The Dive.

Actually, my only issue with The Dive is when it is not, as I would define, neighborly. Anchoring out all day, every day in one place infringed on people's use of that resource.

The hot dog cart in a state park analogy is apt--I made a similar point a year or so ago.

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Information I have is that the Dive will be at Lakeshore Park this Thursday 7/5(weather permitting) !!

I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.
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I believe it is in conjunction with events they hold over the 4th.
It will be there tomorrow, July 5th all day. Its supposed to tie up to Big Pier wind depending.
Feel bad for the camps right there. Its supposed to be a LSP only thing but I'm curious how they are going to stop boats from anchoring in front of the park?
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With the platform, a barge, that they built upon, and the speed at which she travels I don't think there is any reason to be concerned with a tipping issue.

The engines and their longevity are of course in question. As with all the other barges I see around the lake I will not be surprised to see engines being replaced, from time to time... The beauty of outboards is that swapping them out should be pretty straight forward.

If I owned the Dive, I would be strongly considering going to an external tug to move around the lake with, and making the barge just that a barge..... A separate tug can be setup, to have much more thrust power to push that barge around, and have a very reliable and long lasting diesel engine....
A barge goes by here in Winter Harbor, nearly every day. It is pushed by a separate "tug" powered by a pair of Yamaha outboards. Not only is it quiet, it's amazingly fast, leaves a small wake, and pushes an impressive bow wave!
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Two times last week, we saw the Dive heading towards Braun Bay, coming from the northwest beyond Bear Island. Curious where she has been during the night. She moves right along for her size. 🐻
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Every night the Dive returns to the Weirs Dock.

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Every night the Dive returns to the Weirs Dock.

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Hmmm - did I have a typo?

I see Don already corrected whatever it was, thanks Don !
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