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I moved to NC from MA for work in 2001. So many people coming here to escape from high tax and high cost real estate states. Then they vote the same as they did back home. These people are like locusts. NH has suffered from the same thing. We bought property in Sanbornton a few years ago for our retirement home (can't wait to get back!). Limited government and live free or die!
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More boiler plate "feel good" so called gun control stupidity. Also interesting that we are doing this because the amount of gun violence in NH is so high
![]() Establishing gun free zones? LOL beautiful - let's rename them to what they really are, live target practice ranges for the mentally deranged. I thought we cared about our kids... guess not better to leave them completely defenseless and then advertise that they are. A three day waiting period? Great that gives the mentally deranged aforementioned three days more days finalize their plans and stockpile ammo before going on a shooting spree. I guess these dumbocrats didn't bother to notice that most of the large scale horrific shootings that have occurred historically the perpetrator had spent months accumulating what they needed and planning their deed. Mandatory background checks on commercial gun sales? In case these fools didn't know, you need an FFL to conduct commercial gun sales and as such you are FEDERALLY mandated to do a criminal background check or the FFL holder is guilty of a felony. What does this do to stop criminals? Nothing at all. Pat them all on the back aren't they all a bunch of geniuses? |
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This is not simply a mental health issue, either. Instead, it is an availability issue. Suicide attempts with guns are much more "successful" than by other means. The more relaxed the gun laws are, the higher the rate per capital. And, the successful rates of suicides are highest among white men, not coincidentally the same group that is most likely to have access to a gun. I'm not suggested banning guns, just pointing out that to have a meaningful discussion about guns and the second amendment, I believe suidice is an essential part of the discussion. |
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I think mental health and the outrageous amount of people prescribed anti psychotic medication is one of the biggest drivers. You quoted 22,938 people committed suicide by using a fire arm in 2016. Sadly this is only 50% of the total people who committed suicide by any means in 2016. So if any other attempts that were not successful were added to that list it would show a larger finger pointed at general mental unwellness than a "gun" problem. A gun is just a tool used to achieve a result, unfortunately this result is ending their life, whether they use a gun, knife, pills or any other means what the underlying reason is for that action is what needs to be addressed. Not eliminating the tool. Would completely eliminating any of the top 5 ways people do it help, sure but is that the right way to address the overall problem? I don't know. The gun debate is definitely one that warrants discussion in our society. But I think we overlook mental health because we are in no position to offer proper mental support in our health care system and it is much easier to blame an object or availability. |
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The facts are people that hate guns do not want anyone to have them. Cory Booker and others want total confiscation. they have an AGENDA against firearms being pushed and funded by billionaire liberals. No "meaningful" discussion needed. Our God given rights to defend ourselves and our families are being slowly eroded. LIVE FREE OR DIE! |
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I have a few friends that are big gun nuts and I wouldn't consider them completely sane. They are sane until they are not. They all seem to have anger issues and if they are having an episode when carrying I wouldn't trust them not to do something stupid.
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Then they aren’t really your friends I guess...
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Sadly, most liberals want to keep trying. |
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Truth.. We will be living in New Venezuela in 20 years not New Hampshire....
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Yep, isn't it funny how the minute the Democrats take over the legislature they add every tax they can think of.
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Why do we have to be liberals/conservatives, republicans/democrats, left/right. I hate all these labels where we paint everyone into a corner. We all live on a continuum and I'd like to think we could all at least talk about common grounds. If one side has to "win" we'll never sort this stuff out.
I guess that's what we get when we have to live our lives on facebook/twitter/SMS where everything has to be said in 180 characters or whatever the limit is. |
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Sadly for liberals, we have this little thing called the Second Amendment. It's funny, the right to bear arms is specifically identified in the Bill of Rights of our great Constitution, yet liberals are obsessed with the idea restricting this fairly broad right. Other so called rights, such as marriage, voting, abortion, etc., aren't even mentioned in the Constitution, yet liberals want the Federal government to place no restrictions on these so called rights.
With respect to gun laws, we can all learn a valuable lesson from Happy Gilmore! |
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Again, as long as we keep perpetuating the us vs. them mentality, meaningful coexistence will never be attained. Sadly, to me anyway, it's not happening - too much finger-pointing at "them" as the cause of the problem.
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The left's version of compromise is confiscation, and both of us know that is ultimately the goal. Whenever I've bought guns, I've been through a background check. What more do you want? The issue is mental health, and mental health patients have rights in today's world. Limiting my rights as a gun owner doesn't achieve your purpose. Doesn't make the world safer, and in the end, is a limitation on liberty. |
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But then again, that's why I think this is such a great country. We can have strong polarizing views, we can disagree, and we have the power to elect those people we think will best represent us. |
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The issue is that the left has absolutely no legal standing for its positions on this issue. Anything beyond unfettered, unregulated gun ownership is a compromise from the right. Background checks are a compromise. Training courses are a compromise. Registering with the local police department is a compromise. Again, exactly how has the left compromised on this issue? |
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This statement has been interpreted very differently by individuals, states, and the judicial branch over the centuries. It's only within the past 10 years or so (District of Columbia v. Heller, 2008) that the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision recognized the right of a citizen to own a gun for self protection. This has been a contentious issue since our country was founded - which is one reason it is the Second Amendment and not in the original text of the Constitution. So again, while I hear your point, there are many on the opposite side of the issue who feel all they have done is compromise (allow handguns, concealed carry, semi automatic guns, individuals, etc). My main point (my opinion, of course) is that the extreme right and the extreme left each spend too much time blaming the other and are equally to blame for a lack of meaningful dialogue. As an example, I feel that hardcore Bernie supporters in the 2016 election and hardcore Trump supporters had more in common than either side was willing to admit to (the system is rigged, Washington is ineffective, the middle class is being shut out, etc.). Yet, they are venomous in their attacking of each other. |
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In closing I need to follow Maxum's plan - get out of work, away from my computer, and out on the water! Have a great Memorial Day weekend everyone!
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I'd suggest a better phrase would be "very unhappy with their life." None of us ask to be born; if we don't like living in this world we should be free to remove ourself from it, without stigma or recrimination. No, I'm not suicidial: far from it, but I can understand how and why many people choose to kill themselves. "Live free or die."
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Someone that commits suicide is certainly unstable for whatever reason. Again, sorry you lost your husband. |
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The truth is politicians don't want to solve anything. They want to create issues to get voted into office but never solve them. They have been talking about the same issues my whole life. They want to take our money and waste it.
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I'm pretty sure there are some good people with laudable ideas and ideals that go into politics. Only to be crusehd under the sheer weight of the bureaucracy. I couldn't imagine running a business where there's a line drawn in the sand every time so that if you say "yes", I say "no". Stalemate (checkmate really).
They also have no relationships to work off of. I read something few years back. Used to be that somewhere north of 90% of Congress lived in D.C. for some period of time. They visited each others homes, saw each other at gatherings, created relationships, even friendships. Their political interaction was changed by the personal relationships they had. Now, as I remember, the number living in D.C. is under 5%. Low likelihood of ever cooperating. Even if a spending initiative was good for us, likely 1/2 would say "no" because the other half said "yes." Takes nay saying to another level. |
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