Glendale No Wake

[Weekend Pundit]

Dealing with boats coming from the Welch's Island side or Saunder's Bay side into Glendale can be an adventure. If they're transiting through between Locke's and Pig Islands and they're on plane the adventure can become exciting. Posting Glendale as a No Wake Zone is not a bad idea.

I've had my boat swamped by a Carver coming through and its wake broke over my bow and soaked everything in the cockpit. I've had boats cut across my bow less than 20 feet away while they were on plane and I was at headway speed. I've seen boats come into Glendale on plane and not come off plane until they were within 100 feet of the Glendale docks or even less distance from the channel into Smith 's Cove.

[macbeth]

Originally Posted by Weekend Pundit

Dealing with boats coming from the Welch's Island side or Saunder's Bay side into Glendale can be an adventure. If they're transiting through between Locke's and Pig Islands and they're on plane the adventure can become exciting. Posting Glendale as a No Wake Zone is not a bad idea.

I've had my boat swamped by a Carver coming through and its wake broke over my bow and soaked everything in the cockpit. I've had boats cut across my bow less than 20 feet away while they were on plane and I was at headway speed. I've seen boats come into Glendale on plane and not come off plane until they were within 100 feet of the Glendale docks or even less distance from the channel into Smith 's Cove.

I've seen Marine Patrol come into Glendale on plane and stop just short of their docks, 100 feet or so on many occasions

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by macbeth

I've seen Marine Patrol come into Glendale on plane and stop just short of their docks, 100 feet or so on many occasions

The no wake markers are exactly 150’ from marine patrol docks. There is no reason to come off plane before then unless encountering another boat or similar object within 150’.

Dan

[chachee52]

The area between Glendale and Locke used to be a No Wake Zone years ago. I remember my dad and I getting pulled over early in the season the year they took it out, I was probably 13-14 years old (42 now) and MP was telling us about the NWZ, my father pointed out that it always had been but did not see it out right now and asking if the winter took the markers. The MP looked puzzled and then looked around and I do remember him saying "Crap, I forgot they did take this away".
Its one of those situations now, if you slow down like truely you should due to the width of the area, then someone will just blow by you too close and get swamped. Or keep at speed and "join them". Either way, not a good choice.

[Descant]

Originally Posted by chachee52

The area between Glendale and Locke used to be a No Wake Zone years ago. I remember my dad and I getting pulled over early in the season the year they took it out, I was probably 13-14 years old (42 now) and MP was telling us about the NWZ, my father pointed out that it always had been but did not see it out right now and asking if the winter took the markers. The MP looked puzzled and then looked around and I do remember him saying "Crap, I forgot they did take this away".
Its one of those situations now, if you slow down like truely you should due to the width of the area, then someone will just blow by you too close and get swamped. Or keep at speed and "join them". Either way, not a good choice.

In and out of Glendale since 1950. No such recollection of NWZ. Even the 150 foot rule didn't exist then.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by Descant

In and out of Glendale since 1950. No such recollection of NWZ. Even the 150 foot rule didn't exist then.

Actually Descant, there was a no wake zone there previously for a short time...At least that is what the officers at Glendale told me. (I don't remember it either) Because of this any attempt for it to be brought back would be a long shot at best...

Dan

[chachee52]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Actually Descant, there was a no wake zone there previously for a short time...At least that is what the officers at Glendale told me. (I don't remember it either) Because of this any attempt for it to be brought back would be a long shot at best...

Dan

If I remember this weekend I'll take a pic of our map that shows it. It was basically the entire area from the point of Glendale out to the point of Varney point.

[Barney Bear]

I remember that there was a No Wake Sign in that location.

I also remember when the red with white top spar buoy located in Glendale Harbor near the No Wake buoy was a black with white top spar buoy. I believe a large rock is located here. Sail boat keels might hit it in low water times.

We frequently return from East Bear Island to FBY passing between Locke's Island and Pig Island. We come off plane well west of the lighted buoy due to the narrow distance between the two islands. One frequently meets a boat in this location, and can not avoid being over 150 feet of the boat and 150 feet away from one of the two islands.

Often, we encounter boats passing us on plane, meeting or overtaking us there, thus we are treated to a brief rock and roll session. Whoopeeeeeee! 🐻

[tis]

I thought I remembered it being a No Wake zone at one time too. I agree, though, any area when you are not 150' from shore, docks, etc is no wake. Of course it doesn't much matter because people don't know what no wake means.

[Descant]

More NWZ around the lake really seem unnecessary to me, if people slow down when other boats are close by. No other boats present? Don't need it. Perhaps if MP did a directed patrol with 3-4 boats like land based police do, and stopped people who are not obeying the boat to boat headway speed rules, word would get around?

As the discussion moves along, I do recall a NWZ sign for a brief time in front of the channel into Smith Cove. (1959?) It was not intended, I believe, to apply to all of Glendale Bay, although there was confusion as to what it did apply to. Then the channel was fully marked as NWZ , but you could speed up again once inside Smith Cove. I remember water skiing in Smith Cove when it was too windy on the main lake. Then the entire cove was made NWZ and the three marinas and milfoil pretty much took over the cove.

[GodSmile]

Originally Posted by Descant

More NWZ around the lake really seem unnecessary to me, if people slow down when other boats are close by. No other boats present? Don't need it. Perhaps if MP did a directed patrol with 3-4 boats like land based police do, and stopped people who are not obeying the boat to boat headway speed rules, word would get around?

As the discussion moves along, I do recall a NWZ sign for a brief time in front of the channel into Smith Cove. (1959?) It was not intended, I believe, to apply to all of Glendale Bay, although there was confusion as to what it did apply to. Then the channel was fully marked as NWZ , but you could speed up again once inside Smith Cove. I remember water skiing in Smith Cove when it was too windy on the main lake. Then the entire cove was made NWZ and the three marinas and milfoil pretty much took over the cove.

You said it, and I agree, if the MP did a patrol... but this is happening right in front of their new costly building and I don't ever see anyone stopped.