A lighthouse on the Witches?

[Woody38]

Rather than a lighthouse, what about this. Place something like day markers on the witches. These would be large enough for everyone to see and could be lit at night. I personally find the channel markers difficult to find evenas I know where they are located.

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[TiltonBB]

There will be a meeting on Monday, Aug. 26, to discuss the lighthouse idea and gauge public opinion and support of the proposal. The meeting will begin at 7 p.m. at the Marine Patrol headquarters in Gilford.

From the Laconia Sun:

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...ntent=headline

[GodSmile]

I think the efforts of the Marine Patrol would be better directed to patrolling the lake to insure adherence to current rules.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by GodSmile

I think the efforts of the Marine Patrol would be better directed to patrolling the lake to insure adherence to current rules.

The Marine Patrol has not taken any position, did not originate the idea, and only offered to host an informational meeting. This lighthouse movement is from the efforts of someone outside the agency. The meeting seems like an excellent way for the Marine Patrol to let the discussion happen and see what the general public thinks. I am glad that they want our opinion.

"Dunleavy said he offered for his agency to host the meeting as a means to measure that support. However, he stopped short of saying whether he would cast his vote in support of the proposal.

“If I want to vote on something, I want to be informed and I’m not there yet,” he said.

The best way for boaters to protect themselves is to be aware of where they are and how to interpret navigational markers, he said."

[Weekend Pundit]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

There will be a meeting on Monday, Aug. 26, to discuss the lighthouse idea and gauge public opinion and support of the proposal. The meeting will begin at 7 p.m. at the Marine Patrol headquarters in Gilford.

From the Laconia Sun:

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...ntent=headline

The meeting is being held at the Gilford Town Hall, Conference Room A, at 7pm. It is not being held at the Marine Patrol HQ.

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Weekend Pundit

The meeting is being held at the Gilford Town Hall, Conference Room A, at 7pm. It is not being held at the Marine Patrol HQ.

My bad! I read the Marine Patrol was hosting it and missed the rest of the sentence. Thank you for the help

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by Descant

To me, a lighthouse is just not a serious proposal, for financial reasons if nothing else. However to be financially practical, I suggest the following:
the State of NH can lease rights to a commercial operation, (say, Bizer, who started this thread). We already lease antenna space on the top of Mount Washington. The commercial operator could install a motion detector or other electronic device that would trigger a warning on your cell phone (using the "operator's" app and your paid subscription) when you approach too close to the Witches. You pay a subscription fee to the operator, with the cost based on how many hazards you want to be warned away from.

So your basic concept is that as you are approaching a navigational hazard, your phone dings so you can divert your attention to it?

[thinkxingu]

I dunno, friends, all this stuff seems so simple: be responsible or face the consequences. The line (for me, at least) is when it comes to life-threatening issues and, as best I know, historically the Witches have only destroyed dreams and outdrives.

They're marked, prominently--anything else is going too far. Some might even make the case that this type of prevention is, ultimately, enabling.

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[WinnisquamZ]

If it was Lake Michigan you would just drill a few holes and blow it up to a reasonable depth


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[Woodsy]

This is just SILLY!

To begin with we don't have a lot of Boat V. Witches collisions. It is a VERY RARE occurrence!

Secondly... we already have a way of marking this area. We could easily and cheaply use the diamond shaped "danger" markers in addition to the current spar buoys!


Woodsy

[Descant]

Many years ago(60's?) there were several orange barrels ringed with reflective tape surrounding the Witches. Highly visible day and night. I'd guess they were discontinued as being unnecessary. I agree with unnecessary.

[TiltonBB]

Why not tell all the marine contractors that build breakwaters on the lake that they can have the rocks free. Just pull in with your barge and excavator and load up and take them away. In a few short years the Witches will no longer exist and you can throw all the markers away.

[Wifi-1]

Great idea, but someone will discover some sort of life growing among the rocks, that can't be disturbed. Of course, this will be after a $10M study.... lol

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Why not tell all the marine contractors that build breakwaters on the lake that they can have the rocks free. Just pull in with your barge and excavator and load up and take them away. In a few short years the Witches will no longer exist and you can throw all the markers away.

So, is The Witches just a pile of rocks or more of a ledge outcropping?
If a pile of rocks were they deposited by glacier or man made many moons ago?

[Onshore]

It's a pile of rocks strewn about on top of a ledge outcropping. It is a natural formation.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by shore things

It's a pile of rocks strewn about on top of a ledge outcropping. It is a natural formation.

And I thought it was built by witches?

[LIforrelaxin]

All of this is so funny to me... Why because this is all about liability.... Some people say the witches aren't distinguishable enough, some think they are.....

As I said once before, if this light house where to happen, then we will end up seeing more over time, in other area's such as middle ground shoal....

I personally don't care either way... what I care about is how it will get funded. How will it be maintained etc.

Now what people may not realize is that there is presedence for this.... There are light houses on Lake Sunapee.....

http://www.lakesunapee.org/lighthouses

I say if people really want to see this kind of thing in place "in the name of safety" let it happen, but don't expect the state to build it, maintain it etc. they answer is already there.... if the state will allow it, figure out how to build it and maintain it yourself.....

[Descant]

Originally Posted by TiltonBB

Why not tell all the marine contractors that build breakwaters on the lake that they can have the rocks free. Just pull in with your barge and excavator and load up and take them away. In a few short years the Witches will no longer exist and you can throw all the markers away.

I believe mining the Witches was OK and done post war, 1950's, pre DES days. I recall that boulders were removed to improve navigation on the east side of the Hole in the Wall, mid late 1950's.
As for building more breakwaters, it appears that, per your own new thread about Lockes Island boat crash, breakwaters are also a hazard to navigation. Hope nobody was hurt.

[Winni P]

Does anyone have an update from the lighthouse meeting?

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Biggd

And I thought it was built by witches?

Lol...”there be witches here”! They put a spell on your lower unit if you ignore their warnings!

[TiltonBB]

Originally Posted by Descant

As for building more breakwaters, it appears that, per your own new thread about Lockes Island boat crash, breakwaters are also a hazard to navigation. Hope nobody was hurt.

I'm not sure that breakwater was a hazard to navigation. If you are out of control that close to shore I don't think the breakwater is the problem. It looks like the breakwater saved the attached dock, and if there was a boat at that dock it would have saved that too.

[Descant]

Sorry. I thought the irony came through all on its own. I didn't add LOL or similar because the accident is not funny, just the two posts in two threads, both by TiltonBB have some internal irony.

[hilltopper]

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/news...0a0474111.html

[Kamper]

Do we have any rocks big enough for this attention getter?