City of Laconia home rentals

[tis]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Short term rent is much higher than renting monthly and full rent and deposit paid in advance. In my experience there is not a lot of wear and tear as the tenants are usually more affluent to pay that kind of money upfront.


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But still, having thirty people in a house has to be hard on it. Everything is used more. Often more than one family will rent to be able to afford it. To your point though, if they are affluent, they wouldn't need as many people to pay the rent. I am just saying a large amount of people is tough.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by tis

But still, having thirty people in a house has to be hard on it. Everything is used more. Often more than one family will rent to be able to afford it. To your point though, if they are affluent, they wouldn't need as many people to pay the rent. I am just saying a large amount of people is tough.

Never seen a home with 30 people. It’s always limited to the amount of people it sleeps in the lease and lease also usually states no parties.


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[tis]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Never seen a home with 30 people. It’s always limited to the amount of people it sleeps in the lease and lease also usually states no parties.


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No, that was an exaggeration but I do remember reading on here once somebody was looking for a rental for 30 people or about that and somebody actually offered their home. But I know positively that you need to watch people if you rent because often they try to have more people than they said they would and also a lot of them party because they are on vacation.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

Never seen a home with 30 people. It’s always limited to the amount of people it sleeps in the lease and lease also usually states no parties.


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Ha,ha, no parties. That's a joke. My daughter use to say, "I never had any parties when you went away, only small gatherings". Years later we found out the meaning of "small gatherings".

[tis]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Ha,ha, no parties. That's a joke. My daughter use to say, "I never had any parties when you went away, only small gatherings". Years later we found out the meaning of "small gatherings".

Yes. People on vacation usually party.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Ha,ha, no parties. That's a joke. My daughter use to say, "I never had any parties when you went away, only small gatherings". Years later we found out the meaning of "small gatherings".

No it’s not and your not renting to teenagers or frat members if you are smart. Your are supposed to vet your tenant as any smart landlord would.


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[Mr. V]

Allowing rentals enables people without much income or money who inherit a nice home to keep it in the family.

They get to use the property quite a bit, subject to the need to rent it out for a couple of months in order to get the money to pay the cost of upkeep and taxes.

So the city fathers have a choice: either prohibit home rentals and thereby ensure that only the wealthy will live there, or allow rentals and thereby allow the property to remain in the hands of your "average joes and janes."

[tis]

Originally Posted by joey2665

No it’s not and your not renting to teenagers or frat members if you are smart. Your are supposed to vet your tenant as any smart landlord would.


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Joey, you think people don't go to the lake to party? Check out Braun Bay sometime. Not meaning to argue but in my opinion it just is a fact.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by tis

Joey, you think people don't go to the lake to party? Check out Braun Bay sometime. Not meaning to argue but in my opinion it just is a fact.

I do not understand all the flank I am getting? Your statement is not fact. What does Brain Bay have to do with short term rentals?

This is something I am extremely experienced with. Again as long as you properly vet you tenants you should not have any major issues. I’ve been renting residential properties short term for a long time.

Also as a matter of fact in my experience long-term renters do much more damage to homes been short renters do.


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I do not understand all the flank I am getting? Your statement is not fact. What does Brain Bay have to do with short term rentals?

This is something I am extremely experienced with. Again as long as you properly vet you tenants you should not have any major issues. I’ve been renting residential properties short term for a long time.

Also as a matter of fact in my experience long-term renters do much more damage to homes been short renters do.


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I'm glad you do it right but just because you do a good job vetting your tenants doesn't mean other landlords do. That's why oversight is needed.
Like I said, I know of some multi million dollar houses that were bought by groups of investors who never set foot in them and are rentals only. Sometimes they get great tenants and sometimes they don't. And if you're one of the neighbors it isn't always pleasant.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by Biggd

I'm glad you do it right but just because you do a good job vetting your tenants doesn't mean other landlords do. That's why oversight is needed.

Like I said, I know of some multi million dollar houses that were bought by groups of investors who never set foot in them and are rentals only. Sometimes they get great tenants and sometimes they don't.

There are already town ordinances for noise and the like. More regulation is more government and more wasted money.

A very few isolated incidents and the world turns upside. Classic overreaction


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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by joey2665

There are already town ordinances for noise and the like. More regulation is more government and more wasted money.

A very few isolated incidents and the world turns upside. Classic overreaction


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As long as you're not one those "isolated incidents", no problem. Classic landlord response.

[tis]

And BTW, Joey, I didn't say I was against renting at all. I think a lot of people need to do it to pay their property taxes. And I hate more government rules and regulations. I think our houses should be our property and the government should stay out of it, but of course you know they don't. Every move is regulated. Then you see what SOME people do and you understand unfortunately why we need rules and laws.

[Woodsy]

It is easy to say its OK for a homeowner to do what he wants with his property... Woohoo freedom! However, if it worked that way we would have no need for zoning laws. Ask the guy on the corner of Rollercoaster Rd what he thinks! Or better yet, his neighbors!

The Airbnb/Vrbo concept, is essentially an unregulated, uninspected commercial motel in a residential neighborhood, especially when the house is not occupied by the owner, and was purchased specifically for short term rentals. It is a for profit business, and not subject to the same rules and regulations that Hotels & Motels are subjected to. For example, Airnb/Vrbo properties are NOT inspected for life safety issues, they don't pay the rooms & meals tax, they don't pay business taxes etc etc.

Laconia does not need or want so called "investors" who want to buy up property only to rent it out like a no tell motel. The City has a vested interest in building up neighborhoods.

Woodsy

[iw8surf]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

It is easy to say its OK for a homeowner to do what he wants with his property... Woohoo freedom! However, if it worked that way we would have no need for zoning laws. Ask the guy on the corner of Rollercoaster Rd what he thinks! Or better yet, his neighbors!

The Airbnb/Vrbo concept, is essentially an unregulated, uninspected commercial motel in a residential neighborhood, especially when the house is not occupied by the owner, and was purchased specifically for short term rentals. It is a for profit business, and not subject to the same rules and regulations that Hotels & Motels are subjected to. For example, Airnb/Vrbo properties are NOT inspected for life safety issues, they don't pay the rooms & meals tax, they don't pay business taxes etc etc.

Laconia does not need or want so called "investors" who want to buy up property only to rent it out like a no tell motel. The City has a vested interest in building up neighborhoods.

Woodsy

The city of Laconia doesn't seem to vested in building up neighborhoods though. They seem to be more for continued support of keeping the towns image beneath the poverty line. These new regulations just add another negative and essentially eliminate Laconia off the list of when people ask where to stay/rent a house when visiting the Lakes Region.

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by iw8surf

The city of Laconia doesn't seem to vested in building up neighborhoods though. They seem to be more for continued support of keeping the towns image beneath the poverty line. These new regulations just add another negative and essentially eliminate Laconia off the list of when people ask where to stay/rent a house when visiting the Lakes Region.

I disagree.... the City has made improvements to the Weirs, and is currently focused on Lakeport improvements. Investors buying up houses to run like motels is not in the best interest of any neighborhood.


Woodsy

[tis]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

It is easy to say its OK for a homeowner to do what he wants with his property... Woohoo freedom! However, if it worked that way we would have no need for zoning laws. Ask the guy on the corner of Rollercoaster Rd what he thinks! Or better yet, his neighbors!

The Airbnb/Vrbo concept, is essentially an unregulated, uninspected commercial motel in a residential neighborhood, especially when the house is not occupied by the owner, and was purchased specifically for short term rentals. It is a for profit business, and not subject to the same rules and regulations that Hotels & Motels are subjected to. For example, Airnb/Vrbo properties are NOT inspected for life safety issues, they don't pay the rooms & meals tax, they don't pay business taxes etc etc.

Laconia does not need or want so called "investors" who want to buy up property only to rent it out like a no tell motel. The City has a vested interest in building up neighborhoods.

They don't have to pay rooms and meals tax?????? I think they do. Or they are supposed to.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by tis

And BTW, Joey, I didn't say I was against renting at all. I think a lot of people need to do it to pay their property taxes. And I hate more government rules and regulations. I think our houses should be our property and the government should stay out of it, but of course you know they don't. Every move is regulated. Then you see what SOME people do and you understand unfortunately why we need rules and laws.

Exactly, not every owner takes care of their property and I wouldn't consider it "isolated incidents". I've seen people move into brand new $700,000 homes with beautiful landscaping and never cut the grass. By then end of the summer it's 3ft tall. That's why fence companies are sooo busy!
You notice it more with different cultures. The colonial town of Lexington it is 50% Asian now. They all want big houses with no yards to take care of. $800,000 homes are being torn down to make way for 3 and 4 million dollar homes and they sell quickly.
I went to see Lenny Clark in Lexington's Cary Hall last year and one of his jokes was, "I rode my bike here on the bike path and I fell off and was knocked out. When I woke up I though I was in China".

[tis]

Originally Posted by joey2665

I do not understand all the flank I am getting? Your statement is not fact. What does Brain Bay have to do with short term rentals?

This is something I am extremely experienced with. Again as long as you properly vet you tenants you should not have any major issues. I’ve been renting residential properties short term for a long time.

Also as a matter of fact in my experience long-term renters do much more damage to homes been short renters do.


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Not meaning to give you flack and my point with Braun Bay is people come to the lake to party when they are on vacation, whether it's for a day, a week or a month. Even if you vet your people you have to keep your eye on the property.