Friend got ridiculed for wearing a mask

[Merrymeeting]

Originally Posted by Major

You’ll be surprised to know I haven’t worn a mask and don’t intend to do so. Even in Boston. I was initially taught by our leaders that masks should not be worn! This is a classic example of form over substance!

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Major, how do you explain the apparent discrepancy in your many posts?

On one hand you consistently decry the surrendering of civil liberties and government overreaction.

But at the same time you profess blind allegiance to "our leaders", in particular to one who would have the executive branch granted far more power than it already has.

And I would ask that you read the question as intended. Not as an attack or a challenge to your views. As I've stated before,while I may not agree with many of your posts, I've found them thought-provoking and clearly stated. I just don't understand what appears to me to be this obvious conflict in the views you and several of my friends hold.

[Major]

Originally Posted by Merrymeeting

Major, how do you explain the apparent discrepancy in your many posts?

On one hand you consistently decry the surrendering of civil liberties and government overreaction.

But at the same time you profess blind allegiance to "our leaders", in particular to one who would have the executive branch granted far more power than it already has.

And I would ask that you read the question as intended. Not as an attack or a challenge to your views. As I've stated before,while I may not agree with many of your posts, I've found them thought-provoking and clearly stated. I just don't understand what appears to me to be this obvious conflict in the views you and several of my friends hold.

Thanks for the kind words. At least you don’t want to kick me off the Forum like others!

I think I’ve been consistent. After all, I haven’t seen our President wear a mask. All kidding aside, I am willing to bet in his heart-of-hearts that the President wished he didn’t endorse shutting down the economy. Politically, he had to. If he had a do over I am sure he would have done things differently.

By the way, I can love our President and disagree with him on some of his policies. I wouldn’t necessarily like our leaders to be as conservative as I am. There needs to be a little balance. What worries me is that our collective value system has gone way left.


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[ApS]

Originally Posted by Major

Thanks for the kind words. At least you don’t want to kick me off the Forum like others!

I think I’ve been consistent. After all, I haven’t seen our President wear a mask. All kidding aside, I am willing to bet in his heart-of-hearts that the President wished he didn’t endorse shutting down the economy. Politically, he had to. If he had a do over I am sure he would have done things differently. By the way, I can love our President and disagree with him on some of his policies. I wouldn’t necessarily like our leaders to be as conservative as I am. There needs to be a little balance. What worries me is that our collective value system has gone way left.

Could he have been informed that some masks were manufactured in Wuhan, China?

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...uhan-china.htm

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by Major

Thanks for the kind words. At least you don’t want to kick me off the Forum like others!

I think I’ve been consistent. After all, I haven’t seen our President wear a mask. All kidding aside, I am willing to bet in his heart-of-hearts that the President wished he didn’t endorse shutting down the economy. Politically, he had to. If he had a do over I am sure he would have done things differently.

By the way, I can love our President and disagree with him on some of his policies. I wouldn’t necessarily like our leaders to be as conservative as I am. There needs to be a little balance. What worries me is that our collective value system has gone way left.


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I think the reason why someone wants to kick you off is because you’re intransigent with regards to your position. Debate includes the possibility that you may persuade the other person to rethink their position. You show no proclivity to that. This is my last response to you because you obviously think you know it all.


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[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

I think the reason why someone wants to kick you off is because you’re intransigent with regards to your position. Debate includes the possibility that you may persuade the other person to rethink their position. You show no proclivity to that. This is my last response to you because you obviously think you know it all.


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I'd be curious to know how many minds are changed here, FB or anywhere else. There are plenty of left leaning people here whose minds ain't changin' either. That is no reason to kick them out. As the members of this forum age, we aren't getting less stubborn

[8gv]

The concept of changing others views is interesting.

Some might say one is stuck in the past or stubborn when their points of view seem unchangeable.

I like to use this analogy:

As I drive along the road there are slow pokes in front of me.

There are also maniacs on my bumper trying to get me to go faster.

Each would say that the speed I desire is the wrong speed.

To them I say...

Imagine a world where you must go my speed.

How frustrating and unfair that would be!

Why is it then that you wish to impose your speed wishes on me?


How about this...

You do you and I'll do me.

Maybe we can converse over coffee or tea (or on a web forum) and then depart amicably.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

I'd be curious to know how many minds are changed here, FB or anywhere else. There are plenty of left leaning people here whose minds ain't changin' either. That is no reason to kick them out. As the members of this forum age, we aren't getting less stubborn

I don't think it's necessary to change someone's mind on fundamental outlook type stuff. But politics aside, a person who is unable to change his mind on specific issues as new information comes in has my sympathy--that would mean he is unable to learn.

If you like to think of yourself as a thinking person, and your views on things such as disease, economics, politics, family, society, etc have not been changing/evolving over the past couple of months, I'd say either you're not really thinking, or you're not really honest with yourself.

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

I'd be curious to know how many minds are changed here, FB or anywhere else. There are plenty of left leaning people here whose minds ain't changin' either. That is no reason to kick them out. As the members of this forum age, we aren't getting less stubborn

Have you never taken part in a conversation where someone said something that made you think “hmmm, I never thought of that point before.” I know I have and, while perhaps I didn’t change my point of view, I could see the other person’s point of view better.

I don’t think anyone should be kicked out, unless they’re abusive in some way. I just choose not to engage anymore with some people because they’re close-minded, or sometimes outright lie, and it’s not worth the effort.


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