Restaurant Reopenings

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by ishoot308

Well not really Lakes Region but Canoe's sister restaurant in Manchester has closed for good due to pandemic....

Dan

Out of the half dozen or so restaurants in the lakes region that we have ordered take out from during this pandemic, Canoe was by far the worst.

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[Taz]

Originally Posted by Biggd

Out of the half dozen or so restaurants in the lakes region that we have ordered take out from during this pandemic, Canoe was by far the worst.

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My wife and I have been ordering takeout as much as possible to support local restaurants. By far the worst takeout during this pandemic for my wife and I was Patricks and Sawyers. The chicken in Wifes Ceasar chicken wrap at Patricks was not cooked and she had to take it apart and cook the chicken. My haddock sandwhich from Saywers had almost non-existent tartar sauce (can you spare it) the roll was soggy, the fish was oily, batter not crispy. both were suppose to come with chips and pickle, no chips or pickle. We have stayed away from these 2 restaurants because we were never impressed. Now I know why and will not go back.

Now the best take out for us, Lyons Den and Twin Barns. Lyons Den Veal Marsala never disappoints. Wifes blackened chicken on wedge salad or pasta always good. Twin Barns is our favorite burger in the lakes region. They use ground beef from Wineing Butcher, fresh buns daily from bakery. Twin Barns pulled pork sandwhich is the best I have ever had! Our first outdoor dining will be tonight at Twin Barns if we can get a seat.

[Taz]

Here is a thought. Is out-door seating safer than in-door seating? If you are eating under a tent out-door, when people are talking, eating or drinking (opening their mouths) could wind blow germs around? Where as in-doors as long as properly distancing there is no wind to blow germs around.

And now the CDC is reporting that its not spread easily from surfaces or objects. So getting it from tables, door knobs, light switches etc is not likely. Especially if proper cleaning is taking place.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by Taz

My wife and I have been ordering takeout as much as possible to support local restaurants. By far the worst takeout during this pandemic for my wife and I was Patricks and Sawyers. The chicken in Wifes Ceasar chicken wrap at Patricks was not cooked and she had to take it apart and cook the chicken. My haddock sandwhich from Saywers had almost non-existent tartar sauce (can you spare it) the roll was soggy, the fish was oily, batter not crispy. both were suppose to come with chips and pickle, no chips or pickle. We have stayed away from these 2 restaurants because we were never impressed. Now I know why and will not go back.

Can't believe Sawyer's is still open. Since new ownership, the place went downhill fast! No longer a local favorite.

Patrick's has its ups and downs. It depends on who is in the kitchen.

With Lyons Den nearby and Pop's down the road what the heck people!

[Taz]

totally agree Broadhopper.

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Can't believe Sawyer's is still open. Since new ownership, the place went downhill fast! No longer a local favorite.

Patrick's has its ups and downs. It depends on who is in the kitchen.

With Lyons Den nearby and Pop's down the road what the heck people!

I go to sawyers for the oddball ice cream flavors but can't remember how many years since I got food there.

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Taz

My wife and I have been ordering takeout as much as possible to support local restaurants. By far the worst takeout during this pandemic for my wife and I was Patricks and Sawyers. The chicken in Wifes Ceasar chicken wrap at Patricks was not cooked and she had to take it apart and cook the chicken. My haddock sandwhich from Saywers had almost non-existent tartar sauce (can you spare it) the roll was soggy, the fish was oily, batter not crispy. both were suppose to come with chips and pickle, no chips or pickle. We have stayed away from these 2 restaurants because we were never impressed. Now I know why and will not go back.

Now the best take out for us, Lyons Den and Twin Barns. Lyons Den Veal Marsala never disappoints. Wifes blackened chicken on wedge salad or pasta always good. Twin Barns is our favorite burger in the lakes region. They use ground beef from Wineing Butcher, fresh buns daily from bakery. Twin Barns pulled pork sandwhich is the best I have ever had! Our first outdoor dining will be tonight at Twin Barns if we can get a seat.

I'm going to try Twin Barns but I haven't been past the Weirs because of the bridge closing.

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[Taz]

BIGGD, if you like local craft beer I think you will like it. I started going for the beer but the food was a unexpected bonus. Warm Pretzel with dip app is awesome. I really like their wings. They don't fry anything so the wings are baked but I love them. Their not dripping in sauce which I like. The owners are awesome as well, before the madness, sitting at the bar the owners behind the bar were friendly and would talk to you about different things to do with the business and local happenings. The other employees behind the bar were also very friendly and outgoing.

[phoenix]

I did take yesterday at VK for their broiled haddock . It was wonderful just like always

[Sue Doe-Nym]

We did our usual prime rib tonight....as usual, very tasty, and we both have leftovers for tomorrow. I spoke with a young man there tonight, and it sounds as though they will be doing pretty much 100% and will have some outdoor seating. We didn’t really get into that. So...this coming Tuesday, eat in or out, or do takeout. I believe they’ll be doing breakfasts also. We all hope that the area restaurants can gain much of what they lost over the past months!

[phoenix]

They told me they will socially distance so yes opening but will not fill all tables

[Mr. V]

One formula I see being used out on the left coast is to limit total capacity of a restaurant to one-half of what it was pre-pandemic, and not allow more than five people at a table.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

One formula I see being used out on the left coast is to limit total capacity of a restaurant to one-half of what it was pre-pandemic, and not allow more than five people at a table.

That happens to be the NH “formula” for the 4 southernmost counties (50%capacity). Any counties north of them can have 100% capacity.

[SAMIAM]

Originally Posted by Mr. V

One formula I see being used out on the left coast is to limit total capacity of a restaurant to one-half of what it was pre-pandemic, and not allow more than five people at a table.

We're allowed 100 % in Carroll and Belknap counties but 6' spacing
leaves most restaurants with about 50%

[Susie Cougar]

After a couple of weeks of being open, some restaurants are closing down again. Workers as well as patrons are testing positive and they are using contact tracing and then have to quarantine for 14 days. Florida has seen its highest numbers yet, with over 2000 cases in each of the last two days.
I hate to say it, but nothing is making any sense.

[Hillcountry]

We went to our favorite breakfast place this morning...a small breakfast/lunch place in Bristol (Grafton county) first time indoor dining since this BS began. Grafton is allowed 100% capacity but had every other table closed...can’t figure the reasoning behind that.
Was nice to see our favorite waitress and she said she had missed us as well.
If anyone is in the area the place is Gilly’s restaurant...great breakfasts and quick, pleasant service! 100% female run operation, I might add.

[BoatHouse]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

We went to our favorite breakfast place this morning...a small breakfast/lunch place in Bristol (Grafton county) first time indoor dining since this BS began. Grafton is allowed 100% capacity but had every other table closed...can’t figure the reasoning behind that.
Was nice to see our favorite waitress and she said she had missed us as well.
If anyone is in the area the place is Gilly’s restaurant...great breakfasts and quick, pleasant service! 100% female run operation, I might add.

Restaurants may be allowed 100%, but they still have to keep tables 6’ apart. That may be why the tables were closed


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[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by BoatHouse

Restaurants may be allowed 100%, but they still have to keep tables 6’ apart. That may be why the tables were closed


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That’s right. So by default, they are under the size constraints of their building.
They are allowed to have 100% but some are small so they cannot have 100% while others can because they have more room?
Crazy stuff...

[Billy Bob]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

That’s right. So by default, they are under the size constraints of their building.
They are allowed to have 100% but some are small so they cannot have 100% while others can because they have more room?
Crazy stuff...

What is crazy about this ? We need to keep distance between patrons . This is only reasonable until we have this under control. No touch ordering, no touch menus, no touch payments, no cash changing hands , it is no big deal and works .

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob

What is crazy about this ? We need to keep distance between patrons . This is only reasonable until we have this under control. No touch ordering, no touch menus, no touch payments, no cash changing hands , it is no big deal and works .

You'll have to come try my new restaurant. I'm naming it "The Peaceful Protest".... No masks, no distancing, no rules, no problem. We'll pack them in like sardines, but nobody will have (or catch) the virus....

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

You'll have to come try my new restaurant. I'm naming it "The Peaceful Protest".... No masks, no distancing, no rules, no problem. We'll pack them in like sardines, but nobody will have (or catch) the virus....

Wishing and Hoping might be a better name.

[JEEPONLY]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

Wishing and Hoping might be a better name.

And... you can have Dusty Springfield for your wait-person!

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

You'll have to come try my new restaurant. I'm naming it "The Peaceful Protest".... No masks, no distancing, no rules, no problem. We'll pack them in like sardines, but nobody will have (or catch) the virus....

I’ll make a reservation right now! Promise me something...no soy products or “veegan” crap...no barriers or graffiti...guns, concealed and open carry welcomed, and lots of beef on the menu! Oh and might as well throw in happy waitresses in hot pants welcoming their 50% tips!

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

I’ll make a reservation right now! Promise me something...no soy products or “veegan” crap...no barriers or graffiti...guns, concealed and open carry welcomed, and lots of beef on the menu! Oh and might as well throw in happy waitresses in hot pants welcoming their 50% tips!

You can count on it, Hill! Katie Pavlich will be head of security. She knows how to handle guns and soy boys, and won’t take crap from anyone. Political correctness will be left at the door. Loud bikes and bikers also welcome!

[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

I’ll make a reservation right now! Promise me something...no soy products or “veegan” crap...no barriers or graffiti...guns, concealed and open carry welcomed, and lots of beef on the menu! Oh and might as well throw in happy waitresses in hot pants welcoming their 50% tips!

Sounds like you need to move to Florida!

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[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

You'll have to come try my new restaurant. I'm naming it "The Peaceful Protest".... No masks, no distancing, no rules, no problem. We'll pack them in like sardines, but nobody will have (or catch) the virus....

The picture in my mind is like a seen out of Beverly Hillbillies at the dinner table.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Biggd

The picture in my mind is like a seen out of Beverly Hillbillies at the dinner table.

Rednecks also welcome! We'll even create a CEE-MENT pond, complete with Ellie May and Jethro Bodine manikins.

[Major]

All credibility of this nonsense was lost with the government encouragement of the rioters and the looters. There is no science behind any of this. Our government is making it up as they go along. We asked healthy people to shelter in place and placed our most vulnerable in danger.

I was talking to a coworker and we were reminiscing about what we were told on March 15th -- that we need to flatten the curve to prevent an overwhelming of our healthcare system. This morphed into where we stand today where businesses are destroyed, along with our civil liberties. The goalposts are constantly moving and we are like sheep, just following along. And if we protests the government's action as in Michigan, we are condemned. Yet, those who wanted to riot and loot got a free pass to do so.

Back to the topic of restaurants opening, we enjoyed a great afternoon on Saturday at the Naswa and lunch with friends at Canoe on Sunday. I am looking forward to this week -- one more step back to normalcy.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

All credibility of this nonsense was lost with the government encouragement of the rioters and the looters. There is no science behind any of this. Our government is making it up as they go along. We asked healthy people to shelter in place and placed our most vulnerable in danger.

I was talking to a coworker and we were reminiscing about what we were told on March 15th -- that we need to flatten the curve to prevent an overwhelming of our healthcare system. This morphed into where we stand today where businesses are destroyed, along with our civil liberties. The goalposts are constantly moving and we are like sheep, just following along. And if we protests the government's action as in Michigan, we are condemned. Yet, those who wanted to riot and loot got a free pass to do so.

Back to the topic of restaurants opening, we enjoyed a great afternoon on Saturday at the Naswa and lunch with friends at Canoe on Sunday. I am looking forward to this week -- one more step back to normalcy.

If you're going to Monday Morning Quarterback--one of my favorite activities--you need to look at the scoreboard. By following the advice of experts, New York, Mass, and many other places did flatten the curve. So let's not criticize them now by saying there's no science behind the shutdown

Speaking of being a MMQ--I can't resist--in March you were telling us that this is no worse than the flu. It's obvious now that there was nothing behind this other than your hopes and politics.

I hope you are now right that it's safe to open, but I think we'll continue to see the faster openers being the most infected areas

[Major]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

If you're going to Monday Morning Quarterback--one of my favorite activities--you need to look at the scoreboard. By following the advice of experts, New York, Mass, and many other places did flatten the curve. So let's not criticize them now by saying there's no science behind the shutdown

Speaking of being a MMQ--I can't resist--in March you were telling us that this is no worse than the flu. It's obvious now that there was nothing behind this other than your hopes and politics.

I hope you are now right that it's safe to open, but I think we'll continue to see the faster openers being the most infected areas

Worldwide, the numbers support a bad flu year or similar to H1N1 virus. In the U.S., the numbers are obviously inflated, since nearly every death since March 1st has been deemed a Chinese coronavirus death. To support this position, please tell me the number of deaths attributable to the regular flu during 2019-2020. You can't. The numbers aren't available. They are being lumped in with Chinese coronavirus deaths. Same with deaths from hospice, nursing homes, retirement facilities, etc.

I am not diminishing the severity of this historically bad flu. However, the numbers support that our response was a complete and utter overreaction, driven by our media and social media.

Of course it is safe to open. If it's safe enough to riot and loot in our major cities, I think it's safe enough to open a restaurant, hair salon, stores, etc.

[Descant]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

After a couple of weeks of being open, some restaurants are closing down again. Workers as well as patrons are testing positive and they are using contact tracing and then have to quarantine for 14 days. Florida has seen its highest numbers yet, with over 2000 cases in each of the last two days.
I hate to say it, but nothing is making any sense.

Are "some restaurants" in FL or NH? If NH, it would be nice to have names. If FL, not so much interest.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

After a couple of weeks of being open, some restaurants are closing down again. Workers as well as patrons are testing positive and they are using contact tracing and then have to quarantine for 14 days. Florida has seen its highest numbers yet, with over 2000 cases in each of the last two days.
I hate to say it, but nothing is making any sense.

Sad to say, it makes complete sense. Being past the peak is not sufficient to be safe. There are plenty of infected people still out there in Florida (and Mass, NY, et al), so as we reopen and increase contacts, the numbers will resume their upward trend. I posted a nytimes link in gravyboat's "the numbers are interesting" thread you might find helpful--basic message is that NY is past peak, so the country as a whole looks better, but lots of places in the south and west are climbing