Heat Wave & Water Temp, June 2020

8gv · 06-22-2020, 11:06 PM

If Winni is destined to boil we had better get more lobsters!

upthesaukee · 06-22-2020, 11:25 PM

CLA, nice to see you post about the weather, and teach people something about weather. You've been absent way too long.

In a prior life, I was an air traffic controller and loved dealing with the all weather aspects I had to face as a controller.

Keep it coming.

Dave

CanisLupusArctos · 06-23-2020, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by upthesaukee

CLA, nice to see you post about the weather, and teach people something about weather. You've been absent way too long.

In a prior life, I was an air traffic controller and loved dealing with the all weather aspects I had to face as a controller.

Keep it coming.

Dave

Thank you Dave! I've missed you, the others, and this. Getting back to it hasn't been an overnight process and isn't finished, but it's made me realize I want to do this for a living, not just a side-thing that earns a few extra bucks. I've been in transition for a couple years after a family emergency. The pandemic lockdown provided unexpected time to just think, like Frost's "Stopping By Woods On a Snowy Evening" and being able to hear the sound of each snowflake without interruption from thoughts like "But I have miles to go before I sleep..."

A fuzzy picture has evolved of future involving some combination of weather, aviation, &emergency management in a ratio to-be-decided. Positive influences welcome.

In the pandemic "stay-home" I found myself much calmer after using screen-time for getting back into weather vs. checking news stories. Then I saw all the weather geeks now gathered on YouTube (where I want to be) were more concerned with "vortex" than "virus" and I laughed because nothing about the crowd had changed -- the toys just got fancier. It felt like coming home after a long trip around the world.

The fuzzy picture includes a desire to refurbish the web site from its 2012 status, maybe bringing others aboard, maybe crowdfunding to get out of 2012 and do things like go live... lots of thoughts, lots of "how would I do that?" and "where would I start?"

Barney Bear · 06-23-2020, 06:51 AM

The water temperature at -18" on East Bear Island this morning is 75 degrees. 🐻

CanisLupusArctos · 06-23-2020, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Barney Bear

The water temperature at -18" on East Bear Island this morning is 75 degrees. 🐻

Black Cat water temp at 2 ft. deep is still 79 with a SE wind (sea breeze inland reach) getting started. You've reminded me of forum weather discussions "back in the day" when we all commented on the local variability of Winni water temps. Now graphics and virtual modeling are wayyyy better than they were, and getting better every year. How cool would it be if we all monitored lake water temps and made a colorful graphic of the thermal differences? I can imagine clicking "play" and watching it show us warm pools, cold pools, and currents shifting and flowing...

Awesomeness in the kingdom of geekdom.

CanisLupusArctos · 07-08-2020, 03:30 PM

The water temp yesterday was 81 F. That's about as warm as the water gets at the location, and typically only once every five years. Wind and boat waves have churned the water pretty well in the last few days, which stirs water up from the bottom (and that water is usually colder.) It appears the warmth is well-mixed in the water.

The dewpoint is a primary driver of water temp because it controls the rate of surface evaporation, a cooling process. The same thing determines how cold you feel when you get out of the water. Evaporation cools your skin, which is one reason your body sweats.

We can expect the lake water temp to climb even higher for the rest of this week because tropical air (high dewpoint) is now moving in. The dewpoint just hit 70 F for the first time this summer, about as muggy as it normally gets in New England. We have seen dewpoints in the mid-70s every few years but it's the everyday norm for the air over the Gulf of Mexico, "The Steambath of the Americas." That kind of mugginess is not out of the question for the remainder of this week in the lakes region.

Record high temperatures are NOT in the forecast, but a dewpoint in the 70s can make 88-degree air feel like 100 or more. Less evaporation means less cooling for your body (hence the issuance of heat alerts) and less cooling for the lake.

Barney Bear · 07-13-2020, 04:03 PM

The water temperature at East Bear Island this Monday morning is a toasty 81 degrees. Yippeeeeeee! 🐻

Biggd · 07-13-2020, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Bear

The water temperature at East Bear Island this Monday morning is a toasty 81 degrees. Yippeeeeeee! 🐻

That's like Florida water temp.

barefootbay · 07-13-2020, 10:02 PM

Brain eating amoeba temperatures .

fatlazyless · 07-13-2020, 11:21 PM

81 water temp ties the record for the last 11,000-years, so it will most likely drop back to 78 over the next couple days, before going back up. Is gonna be an 11,000-year new hot water record, for sure, golleeee! ...

Barney Bear · 07-27-2020, 04:04 PM

The water temperature at East Bear Island this afternoon at -18" is 83 degrees. Air temperature is 90 degrees. 🐻

ApS · 07-30-2020, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Barney Bear

The water temperature at East Bear Island this afternoon at -18" is 83 degrees. Air temperature is 90 degrees. 🐻

We've got a July algae bloom like I've never seen before.

Four-foot green blobs!

XCR-700 · 07-31-2020, 06:12 PM

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We've got a July algae bloom like I've never seen before.

Four-foot green blobs!

Really,,,

Not good, yuck.

ishoot308 · 08-01-2020, 05:06 AM

Surface water temp this morning in the broads is 79 degrees...

Dan

MDoug · 08-21-2020, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Bear

The water temperature at East Bear Island this afternoon at -18" is 83 degrees. Air temperature is 90 degrees. 🐻

How low is the lake now?

06-22-2020, 11:25 PM	#2
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,602 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,468 Thanked 1,983 Times in 1,083 Posts	Great to hear from you CLA CLA, nice to see you post about the weather, and teach people something about weather. You've been absent way too long. In a prior life, I was an air traffic controller and loved dealing with the all weather aspects I had to face as a controller. Keep it coming. Dave __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

06-23-2020, 06:51 AM	#4
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 274 Times in 175 Posts	Swim Time The water temperature at -18" on East Bear Island this morning is 75 degrees. 🐻

07-08-2020, 03:30 PM	#6
CanisLupusArctos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 15 Thanked 472 Times in 107 Posts	Update The water temp yesterday was 81 F. That's about as warm as the water gets at the location, and typically only once every five years. Wind and boat waves have churned the water pretty well in the last few days, which stirs water up from the bottom (and that water is usually colder.) It appears the warmth is well-mixed in the water. The dewpoint is a primary driver of water temp because it controls the rate of surface evaporation, a cooling process. The same thing determines how cold you feel when you get out of the water. Evaporation cools your skin, which is one reason your body sweats. We can expect the lake water temp to climb even higher for the rest of this week because tropical air (high dewpoint) is now moving in. The dewpoint just hit 70 F for the first time this summer, about as muggy as it normally gets in New England. We have seen dewpoints in the mid-70s every few years but it's the everyday norm for the air over the Gulf of Mexico, "The Steambath of the Americas." That kind of mugginess is not out of the question for the remainder of this week in the lakes region. Record high temperatures are NOT in the forecast, but a dewpoint in the 70s can make 88-degree air feel like 100 or more. Less evaporation means less cooling for your body (hence the issuance of heat alerts) and less cooling for the lake.

07-13-2020, 04:03 PM	#7
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 274 Times in 175 Posts	How Nice! The water temperature at East Bear Island this Monday morning is a toasty 81 degrees. Yippeeeeeee! 🐻

07-13-2020, 11:21 PM	#10
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,788 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,022 Times in 744 Posts	81 water temp ties the record for the last 11,000-years, so it will most likely drop back to 78 over the next couple days, before going back up. Is gonna be an 11,000-year new hot water record, for sure, golleeee! ... __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

06-22-2020, 11:06 PM	#1
8gv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,114 Thanks: 64 Thanked 749 Times in 483 Posts	If Winni is destined to boil we had better get more lobsters!

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07-13-2020, 10:02 PM	#9
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07-27-2020, 04:04 PM	#11
Barney Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 962 Thanks: 495 Thanked 274 Times in 175 Posts	Yeow!!! The water temperature at East Bear Island this afternoon at -18" is 83 degrees. Air temperature is 90 degrees. 🐻

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08-01-2020, 05:06 AM	#14
ishoot308 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gilford, NH / Welch Island Posts: 6,304 Thanks: 2,405 Thanked 5,308 Times in 2,069 Posts	Surface water temp this morning in the broads is 79 degrees... Dan __________________ It's Always Sunny On Welch Island!!

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