What about the camps?

[Major]

Interesting article the other day in the LDS. It looks like many of the summer camps are closed forever. Another casualty of our overreaction. I am sure in retrospect we will say it was worth it.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Major

Interesting article the other day in the LDS. It looks like many of the summer camps are closed forever. Another casualty of our overreaction. I am sure in retrospect we will say it was worth it.

Yup, and the so-called "experts & authorities" continue to collect a paycheck from the government troughs, while putting people out of business and on unemployment. I'm afraid we're getting close to the point of no return in this country (if we haven't passed it already).

[Major]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Yup, and the so-called "experts & authorities" continue to collect a paycheck from the government troughs, while putting people out of business and on unemployment. I'm afraid we're getting close to the point of no return in this country (if we haven't passed it already).

I just read that nearly 1/4 of all restaurants in Massachusetts have closed forever. Peoples lives destroyed. But hey, at least they didn't die from the certain death sentence Chinese coronavirus. Mass is being held out as an example of "how to do it right," with the third highest death rate in the country. I am so disgusted by this.

[tis]

It's so very sad. I just don't know what is going to happen to this country.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by tis

It's so very sad. I just don't know what is going to happen to this country.

Yes, very sad about the camps. Let's just hope that we open in a way that does not force us to backslide as is happening in Texas, Florida, Arizona. Lots of articles today on pandemonium in the Sunbelt that we do not need here.

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Yes, very sad about the camps. Let's just hope that we open in a way that does not force us to backslide as is happening in Texas, Florida, Arizona. Lots of articles today on pandemonium in the Sunbelt that we do not need here.

I think most of this so-called backsliding is a result of the riots a couple weeks ago. There are plenty of pictures of tens of thousands jammed in together and the apologists literally said "there does not appear to be any spread resulting from the riots" who believes that? The entire covid industry went into overtime moaning about a handful of people at a pool party in Missouri but did a 180 afterward.


This is from Forbes:

A report released Thursday from the Government Accountability Office levied criticism at the CDC for combining active cases of the coronavirus and positive antibody tests, which may give a misleading view of nationwide testing and spread.

It has been widely speculated that the number have been inflated and here's proof

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by jbolty

I think most of this so-called backsliding is a result of the riots a couple weeks ago. There are plenty of pictures of tens of thousands jammed in together and the apologists literally said "there does not appear to be any spread resulting from the riots" who believes that? The entire covid industry went into overtime moaning about a handful of people at a pool party in Missouri but did a 180 afterward.

Trying to keep this focused on the Lakes, but local (Republican) officials have attributed it to restaurants and bars--or at least they believe that limiting these things will turn it around.

[tis]

Obviously it will be harder for the privately owned camps to survive so that made me wonder how many are left. Any idea anybody?

[Pricestavern]

Originally Posted by Major

Interesting article the other day in the LDS. It looks like many of the summer camps are closed forever. Another casualty of our overreaction. I am sure in retrospect we will say it was worth it.

Just stop, please.

The OP was asking about the status of the camps and whether parents could/would send their kids. Later posters commiserated over the probable closings and what camp meant to them. Must it always be brought back to 'gov't overreactions', 'Dr. Fraud', etc?

Try to keep the thread on topic and keep the national politics out, please.

[Major]

Originally Posted by Pricestavern

Just stop, please.

The OP was asking about the status of the camps and whether parents could/would send their kids. Later posters commiserated over the probable closings and what camp meant to them. Must it always be brought back to 'gov't overreactions', 'Dr. Fraud', etc?

Try to keep the thread on topic and keep the national politics out, please.

No, I won't. What do you think caused the camps being closed? The Chinese coronavirus or our overreaction to the Chinese coronavirus? Did the camps make this decision out of safety or out of our governments overreaction? I would bet my last dollar that if we handled the Chinese coronavirus differently, e.g., allow healthy people to live their lives and run their businesses while protecting elderly and compromised, the camps would be open and thriving. These camps would not have given the Chinese coronavirus a second thought about safety since, as we're finding out, only elderly (average age of 82) and compromised (e.g., morbidly obese) are dying. If you don't like what I have to say then don't read my posts.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Major

No, I won't. What do you think caused the camps being closed? The Chinese coronavirus or our overreaction to the Chinese coronavirus? Did the camps make this decision out of safety or out of our governments overreaction? I would bet my last dollar that if we handled the Chinese coronavirus differently, e.g., allow healthy people to live their lives and run their businesses while protecting elderly and compromised, the camps would be open and thriving. These camps would not have given the Chinese coronavirus a second thought about safety since, as we're finding out, only elderly (average age of 82) and compromised (e.g., morbidly obese) are dying. If you don't like what I have to say then don't read my posts.

Don’t stop Major. Typical tactic with someone trying to silence the opposition. They can’t handle the truth.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Major

No, I won't. What do you think caused the camps being closed? The Chinese coronavirus or our overreaction to the Chinese coronavirus? Did the camps make this decision out of safety or out of our governments overreaction? I would bet my last dollar that if we handled the Chinese coronavirus differently, e.g., allow healthy people to live their lives and run their businesses while protecting elderly and compromised, the camps would be open and thriving. These camps would not have given the Chinese coronavirus a second thought about safety since, as we're finding out, only elderly (average age of 82) and compromised (e.g., morbidly obese) are dying. If you don't like what I have to say then don't read my posts.

Amazing that you cling to this even as Republicans all over the country have increased social distancing this past week--governors of Florida, Texas, Arizona on bars and/or restaurants; VP Pence, Sen McConnell, VP Cheney and others on masks.

It's pretty much just you, SP, and Trump who would open the camps...

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Amazing that you cling to this even as Republicans all over the country have increased social distancing this past week--governors of Florida, Texas, Arizona on bars and/or restaurants; VP Pence, Sen McConnell, VP Cheney and others on masks.

It's pretty much just you, SP, and Trump who would open the camps...

Absolutely!

[SailinAway]

I'm confused. (1) Why do so many here applaud a member who continually refers to the "so-called pandemic" as if it weren't real, when there have been 10.5 million cases worldwide and more than 500,000 deaths, with the US leading the pack with 130,000 deaths? That (US deaths) is 43 times more than the number of people who died on 9/11. It's twice as many deaths as US soldiers killed in Vietnam---with the difference that US involvement in the Vietnam War lasted 8 years (= 7250 US casualties per year) while US COVID-19 victims have died in only 5 months (= 312,000 per year)! Obviously this pandemic is far more lethal than some wars. Do you not think that denying the existence of a pandemic is a bit dangerous for society and your own survival?

(2) Is there no forum policy that would prevent someone from posting dangerous misinformation claiming that the pandemic isn't real? Isn't that sort of like claiming that cancer isn't real?

As I always say (though I'm usually not believed), I am NOT making a political statement because the virus itself is a matter of science and medicine, not politics. (The response to it is political, but the virus itself is not.) My questions are serious, not trolling. I'm baffled.

[tbonies]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

I'm confused. (1) Why do so many here applaud a member who continually refers to the "so-called pandemic" as if it weren't real, when there have been 10.5 million cases worldwide and more than 500,000 deaths, with the US leading the pack with 130,000 deaths? That (US deaths) is 43 times more than the number of people who died on 9/11. It's twice as many deaths as US soldiers killed in Vietnam---with the difference that US involvement in the Vietnam War lasted 8 years (= 7250 US casualties per year) while US COVID-19 victims have died in only 5 months (= 312,000 per year)! Obviously this pandemic is far more lethal than some wars. Do you not think that denying the existence of a pandemic is a bit dangerous for society and your own survival?

(2) Is there no forum policy that would prevent someone from posting dangerous misinformation claiming that the pandemic isn't real? Isn't that sort of like claiming that cancer isn't real?

As I always say (though I'm usually not believed), I am NOT making a political statement because the virus itself is a matter of science and medicine, not politics. (The response to it is political, but the virus itself is not.) My questions are serious, not trolling. I'm baffled.

Because you can’t teach stupid.


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[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Amazing that you cling to this even as Republicans all over the country have increased social distancing this past week--governors of Florida, Texas, Arizona on bars and/or restaurants; VP Pence, Sen McConnell, VP Cheney and others on masks.

It's pretty much just you, SP, and Trump who would open the camps...

They’re not doing enough in FL...over 10k positive cases reported today. About 20% of the nation’s total. Disney to open in less than 2 weeks. Waiting to see what happens to the numbers after that. I’ve noticed an increase in mask wearing locally when I go out for essentials. I’ve been quarantining since Saturday in case I decide to head to NH. And, yes Major, you need to dial it back. You’re part of a greater society. Stop thinking just of yourself. This is exactly why Europe has banned Americans. It’s embarrassing.


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[tis]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

They’re not doing enough in FL...over 10k positive cases reported today. About 20% of the nation’s total. Disney to open in less than 2 weeks. Waiting to see what happens to the numbers after that. I’ve noticed an increase in mask wearing locally when I go out for essentials. I’ve been quarantining since Saturday in case I decide to head to NH. And, yes Major, you need to dial it back. You’re part of a greater society. Stop thinking just of yourself. This is exactly why Europe has banned Americans. It’s embarrassing.

Well, gilly girl, the gov. suspended the 2 week quarantine so you can come to NH now. Sorry I just read that is only from other NE states. And they are still supposed to quarantine here for two weeks.

[webmaster]

This thread was supposed to be about summer camps.