Face Masks

[Pricestavern]

Originally Posted by Garcia

Probably worth at least looking into the AAPS. They also say that there is a casual relationship between vaccines and autism.

Founded in 1944, it has about 5,000 members. Has promoted:

• The belief that HIV does not cause AIDS
• Being gay reduces life expectancy
• There is a link between abortions and breast cancer
• There is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism

The AAPS was formed in 1944 in opposition to the Wagner-Murray-Dingell Bill proposing government health care to most US citizens. it is a political-economic rather than a medical group. The AAPS opposes electronic medical records and takes the position that the FDA and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are unconstitutional. In 2005 they published an article stating that 'anchor babies' from illegal aliens had, in 3 years, swollen the number of leprosy cases in the US by 7,000 (as it turns out there were 7,000 cases of leprosy cases in the US over the course of 30 years, not 3).

Soooo....I'm not really going to take what the AAPS says seriously.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Pricestavern

Founded in 1944, it has about 5,000 members. Has promoted:

• The belief that HIV does not cause AIDS
• Being gay reduces life expectancy
• There is a link between abortions and breast cancer
• There is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism

The AAPS was formed in 1944 in opposition to the Wagner-Murray-Dingell Bill proposing government health care to most US citizens. it is a political-economic rather than a medical group. The AAPS opposes electronic medical records and takes the position that the FDA and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are unconstitutional. In 2005 they published an article stating that 'anchor babies' from illegal aliens had, in 3 years, swollen the number of leprosy cases in the US by 7,000 (as it turns out there were 7,000 cases of leprosy cases in the US over the course of 30 years, not 3).

Soooo....I'm not really going to take what the AAPS says seriously.

What took you so long? You don’t think we could come up with an equally descriptive list against AMA?

[Nagigator]

Mr. Hillcountry, MY view is that calling a mask a face diaper is insulting and condescending.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Nagigator

Mr. Hillcountry, MY view is that calling a mask a face diaper is insulting and condescending.

I thought it hilarious! Difference between you and me.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

I thought it hilarious! Difference between you and me.

Hey Hill,

How can one insult and be condescending to a face mask?? If you can figure that out, please let me know!

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Hey Hill,

How can one insult and be condescending to a face mask?? If you can figure that out, please let me know!

Face masks matter...I guess?

[Nagigator]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Face masks matter...I guess?

You said it.

[Hillcountry]

Originally Posted by Nagigator

You said it.

I did...but obviously my comedic and sarcastic intent flew over your head like a Patriot missile...

[Biggd]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Face masks matter...I guess?

They are Patriotic now.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by Hillcountry

Face masks matter...I guess?

Perhaps! I’m going to print up some FMM bumper stickers. Will send you a supply!

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

What took you so long? You don’t think we could come up with an equally descriptive list against AMA?

The only relationship between the AMA and the AAPS is the use of the same alphabet.

You could come up with a list of positions that the AMA has taken which would not be valid today...that is the way things go over time. But the AAPS list was wrong when made and never true.

I am not defending the AMA but trying to compare the AAPS and AMA is just not a valid argument with respect to scientific / medical value.

And just who is the “we” you refer to? Why can’t there be a discussion of individuals without making it a debate between 2 sides.

[VitaBene]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

The only relationship between the AMA and the AAPS is the use of the same alphabet.

You could come up with a list of positions that the AMA has taken which would not be valid today...that is the way things go over time. But the AAPS list was wrong when made and never true.

I am not defending the AMA but trying to compare the AAPS and AMA is just not a valid argument with respect to scientific / medical value.

And just who is the “we” you refer to? Why can’t there be a discussion of individuals without making it a debate between 2 sides.

Agreed on "sides". There will never be political consensus between 2 people unless they are the most strident conservative or liberal, even then they would find things to disagree about!

I had never heard of AAPS until this thread.

To the No Mask people, will you mask for work, to go shopping, or to a restaurant? I have typed it before on this forum, but it is amazing how fast we adapted at work to distancing or masking. 95% of the time we stand in a circle talking and everyone naturally goes 6' apart. What was once a tighter circle is looser. If we cant distance we mask. It's really not much of a hardship.

[Jdarby]

Originally Posted by VitaBene

I had never heard of AAPS until this thread.

Nor had I and I serve on the board of directors of an international healthcare accrediting organization. We have 23 professional healthcare associations represented on our board and AAPS is not among them nor are they even on our radar as an organization that can assist in creating quality consensus standards for the healthcare community.

Be well.

[fatlazyless]

......ain't got no mask to wear inside the store


...... a Plymouth-NH, Walmart health ambassador will give you a mask, just inside their front door

[Pricestavern]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

What took you so long?

Checking sources, etc. Besides, I don’t want to hog all the fun