Heavy Barging to Islands

[tis]

Originally Posted by steve-on-mark

When we started building, we had a lot of barge deliveries. I seem to remember a 300 dollar per hour charge, from the time the barge left it's marina, til the time it returned. That was 15 years ago...

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I found your answer interesting because when we had a house on an island in 1984 I seem to remember $300 an hour.

[fatlazyless]

For $3.58 you can purchase a sturdy 50-lb paper sack of Quikrete high strength concrete mix at Lowe's ........ boat it out to your island on your own boat ...... and get to work.

No need to build concrete forms ....... just position the 50-lb bags into an overlapping formation or wall ...... rip-rap style ...... soak em good with the garden hose ..... and 24-hours later ...... you got concrete set in place to keep everything from rolling down the slope, and into the lake ...... or something. .... :rolleye2

To actually make this work, you need to soak the paper bags till very wet so the water really soaks through the paper, and into the concrete mix. Is not as effective as placing the bags underwater, into the lake, because all the dry concrete does not get totally soaked.

[Descant]

Hourly rate alone can be deceptive. Barge work could be to carry heavy equipment, 2-3 kts. an LST at 10 kts or an old pontoon at 15 kts. And (is she still around?) the Kitty Belle, a sidewheeler built for shallow draft and truck drive through ramps, like a ferry.

[NH.Solar]

That's Watermark Construction shown in Winni83's photo, they're out of Gilford. You might also contact Ambrose Marine in Meredith as they aren't that far away. Jim Bean in Tuftonboro also has a very large steel barge.
Two points to bear in mind, first all of these guys are extremely busy this time of year so you will likely have to book w-a-y ahead.
And two, these are extremely heavy rigs and they can't be stopped or turned without going a very long distance, steer clear and always grant them the right of way!

[Little Bear]

Originally Posted by Descant

Hourly rate alone can be deceptive. Barge work could be to carry heavy equipment, 2-3 kts. an LST at 10 kts or an old pontoon at 15 kts. And (is she still around?) the Kitty Belle, a sidewheeler built for shallow draft and truck drive through ramps, like a ferry.

Kitty Belle is still going strong. I think they had a new bottom put on her last winter or the winter before that. She’s a workhorse.

[jazzman]

When we were looking for a house, I think every house we looked at on the east side of Rattlesnake had bad foundation piers. I saw more than one with bags of cement piled around the piers making things worse. I never priced it, but this has to be a big expense to fix

[CaptT820]

There are several companies out there that produce on demand concrete and have trucks that only begin mixing the ingredients to produce concrete when they reach the job site. Not sure on truck weight or barge capability, but this may be an option. All the big concrete companies offer concrete mixes that involve a retarder of some sort to allow the mix a longer hold time so it doesnt set up before it reaches the job, this is probably a good option for an island. Best days to order a concrete truck for this type of project would be when the weather is cloudy and the temperature is between 55 and 70.

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by CaptT820

There are several companies out there that produce on demand concrete and have trucks that only begin mixing the ingredients to produce concrete when they reach the job site. Not sure on truck weight or barge capability, but this may be an option. All the big concrete companies offer concrete mixes that involve a retarder of some sort to allow the mix a longer hold time so it doesnt set up before it reaches the job, this is probably a good option for an island. Best days to order a concrete truck for this type of project would be when the weather is cloudy and the temperature is between 55 and 70.

Agreed as a former concrete producer for 30+ years. On site or “batch mobiles” do not produce a quality product. Any on the larger producers can easily “retard” the concrete to give ample time for transportation to an island. I have developed mixes for WTC that were retarded for over 8 hours with great success.


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