Electric Jet Ski ! Anyone here have one?

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Originally Posted by IslandRadio

That's cool! If you were doing it yourself, I'd ask if could come over and have a look at what you're doing.

That's really excellent.

Although I loath anyone or anything that intentionally makes a bigger wake, this is pretty impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T_hitgZoak

[XCR-700]

Not a big jet ski person, but the thoughts of an electric anything motor boating is so depressing to me.

I LOVE the sound and the vibration of the motor, its part of the experience.

You become one with the machine, I can feel when an engine hits its sweet-spot, and like riding a horse as it transitions from trot to gallop to full run, feeling the engine accelerate through its RPM range is just thrilling.

When we all ran pre-mix and "white gas" (or any good gas before the change to unleaded) I LOVED the smell of an outboard and a marina. I smelled and sounded like FUN.

Boating with and electric motor might be fine for a tour boat, but for anything I would feel like some major fun part was missing, and for a personal watercraft it would seem doubly so. Like trying to sell a Harley rider on an electric motor, just dont see that taking off.

But then the way the world is going, my guess is that if they can add a booming sound system and selfie camera, then it will probably be a hit.

[Winilyme]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Not a big jet ski person, but the thoughts of an electric anything motor boating is so depressing to me.

I LOVE the sound and the vibration of the motor, its part of the experience.

You become one with the machine, I can feel when an engine hits its sweet-spot, and like riding a horse as it transitions from trot to gallop to full run, feeling the engine accelerate through its RPM range is just thrilling.

When we all ran pre-mix and "white gas" (or any good gas before the change to unleaded) I LOVED the smell of an outboard and a marina. I smelled and sounded like FUN.

Boating with and electric motor might be fine for a tour boat, but for anything I would feel like some major fun part was missing, and for a personal watercraft it would seem doubly so. Like trying to sell a Harley rider on an electric motor, just dont see that taking off.

But then the way the world is going, my guess is that if they can add a booming sound system and selfie camera, then it will probably be a hit.

All the more a hit when the manufacturers add fake engine and exhaust sound systems. You’ll never hear the difference. Maybe they’ll also add some scent diffusers to give you that heady marina smell.

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Ahhhh... "I love the smell of two stroke exhaust in the morning!"

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Originally Posted by 8gv

Ahhhh... "I love the smell of two stroke exhaust in the morning!"

It smells like,,, FUN!

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Originally Posted by Winilyme

All the more a hit when the manufacturers add fake engine and exhaust sound systems. You’ll never hear the difference. Maybe they’ll also add some scent diffusers to give you that heady marina smell.

Well maybe if they can also add some vibration and a variable acceleration to mimic the torque/power curve of the ICE motor ;-)

But then what about the human element, the banter you have at the gas docks, the discussions with the mechanic about if yours is better then the new one, or if the new one is worth the upgrade. Oh, and dont forget the evil eye looks from onlookers if you premix is too heavy, always enjoyed that, well until the plugs fouled out,,, :-)

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Not a big jet ski person, but the thoughts of an electric anything motor boating is so depressing to me.

I LOVE the sound and the vibration of the motor, its part of the experience.

You become one with the machine, I can feel when an engine hits its sweet-spot, and like riding a horse as it transitions from trot to gallop to full run, feeling the engine accelerate through its RPM range is just thrilling.

When we all ran pre-mix and "white gas" (or any good gas before the change to unleaded) I LOVED the smell of an outboard and a marina. I smelled and sounded like FUN.

Boating with and electric motor might be fine for a tour boat, but for anything I would feel like some major fun part was missing, and for a personal watercraft it would seem doubly so. Like trying to sell a Harley rider on an electric motor, just dont see that taking off.

But then the way the world is going, my guess is that if they can add a booming sound system and selfie camera, then it will probably be a hit.

I'm a car guy who started with a Plymouth Barracuda and finished with 5 BMWs, most of them stick. So gas was in my veins, but I can only say you need to try it before you feel sorry for yourself. EVs are not just for tree huggers. The instant torque gives you a jump off the line better than anything short of an exotic. The self-braking motor--as you lift your foot off the accelerator the motor spins in reverse to recharge the battery--gives you an even better sense of control than a clutch. It feels like you're piloting a spaceship rather than trudging over land. For a person who loves performance and control, gas engines are yesterday's news.

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I'm a car guy who started with a Plymouth Barracuda and finished with 5 BMWs, most of them stick. So gas was in my veins, but I can only say you need to try it before you feel sorry for yourself. EVs are not just for tree huggers. The instant torque gives you a jump off the line better than anything short of an exotic. The self-braking motor--as you lift your foot off the accelerator the motor spins in reverse to recharge the battery--gives you an even better sense of control than a clutch. It feels like you're piloting a spaceship rather than trudging over land. For a person who loves performance and control, gas engines are yesterday's news.

I have tried them and HATED it, a slower muscle car grinding through the gears is SOOOOO much more fun to me than stepping on a throttle switch.

But I fully admit to being a dinosaur, I have no use for BMWs Acuras Porsche's or anything with high techno babble gizmos even when they are faster and more reliable and more efficient and actually better. I will even admit that in some ways they are better, but I HATE the whole modern and electric car experience.

I miss high beam switches on the floor, pulling the headlight switch out, the clickity click feel of the heater fan switch. I truly miss roll up manual windows, though I do have to admit to liking electric locks,,,

I have never driven anything with an internal shifter that felt as good as an 833, and you need an arm wrestlers arm to shift a Mopar. So dont even think of comparing a Tremec equipped anything to an old Camaro with a Super T-10, and with an electric you dont even have a transmission,,, Thats just flat out wrong!

The total lack of throttle feedback in any modern car is just so wrong to me I feel like I am driving a video game. And the hydraulic clutch only adds to the problem. A mechanical clutch linkage and cable throttle gave such precise feedback you could take off from a stop and not tell it was manual if you practiced just a little.

I would gladly trade my "new" Challenger for an equivalent original, just for the nostalgia of the finicky cold start procedure we all just lived with a generation ago. Where as today, I just push the start button. Its totally uninspiring,,,

When I reach the point of not being able to drive safely, I will just give up and it wont matter if the self driving car is gas or electric, but for now, I would sooner have a pull start 2-stroke go kart with points and condenser and rusted muffler than a Tesla, its just not fun.

But for those who a car is just transportation, then a self-driving electric probably makes a lot of sense. Its just not for me, I'm way too curmudgeonly to have a giant iPad on my dashboard where my 8-Track tape player should be. :

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Originally Posted by XCR-700

I have tried them and HATED it, a slower muscle car grinding through the gears is SOOOOO much more fun to me than stepping on a throttle switch.

But I fully admit to being a dinosaur, I have no use for BMWs Acuras Porsche's or anything with high techno babble gizmos even when they are faster and more reliable and more efficient and actually better. I will even admit that in some ways they are better, but I HATE the whole modern and electric car experience.

I miss high beam switches on the floor, pulling the headlight switch out, the clickity click feel of the heater fan switch. I truly miss roll up manual windows, though I do have to admit to liking electric locks,,,

I have never driven anything with an internal shifter that felt as good as an 833, and you need an arm wrestlers arm to shift a Mopar. So dont even think of comparing a Tremec equipped anything to an old Camaro with a Super T-10, and with an electric you dont even have a transmission,,, Thats just flat out wrong!

The total lack of throttle feedback in any modern car is just so wrong to me I feel like I am driving a video game. And the hydraulic clutch only adds to the problem. A mechanical clutch linkage and cable throttle gave such precise feedback you could take off from a stop and not tell it was manual if you practiced just a little.

I would gladly trade my "new" Challenger for an equivalent original, just for the nostalgia of the finicky cold start procedure we all just lived with a generation ago. Where as today, I just push the start button. Its totally uninspiring,,,

When I reach the point of not being able to drive safely, I will just give up and it wont matter if the self driving car is gas or electric, but for now, I would sooner have a pull start 2-stroke go kart with points and condenser and rusted muffler than a Tesla, its just not fun.

But for those who a car is just transportation, then a self-driving electric probably makes a lot of sense. Its just not for me, I'm way too curmudgeonly to have a giant iPad on my dashboard where my 8-Track tape player should be. :

You forgot to mention the spark advance lever on your steering wheel.

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Originally Posted by 8gv

You forgot to mention the spark advance lever on your steering wheel.

Cant say I have touched that one, BUT,,,

Once upon a time I was pretty good at setting the old dual-points in my hotrods, didnt even need a dwell meter (for those who even remember them)

AND,,,

I had a Plymouth Duster that had a foot pump on the floor for the windshield washer (no electric motor, let alone the control on a lever on the steering column)

Oh, and let me not forget the time my father towed me home with a tow chain while I drove a soon to be race car that was in reality a shell of a stripped out car with no seats (I actually sat on a upside down milk crate) and no lights, and NO brakes, only the pull handle for the rear parking brake,,, It was only like a 10 mile trip down the highway and a few back roads,,,

You cant make a story like that up, you had to live it ;-)

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I'm a car guy who started with a Plymouth Barracuda and finished with 5 BMWs, most of them stick. So gas was in my veins, but I can only say you need to try it before you feel sorry for yourself. EVs are not just for tree huggers. The instant torque gives you a jump off the line better than anything short of an exotic. The self-braking motor--as you lift your foot off the accelerator the motor spins in reverse to recharge the battery--gives you an even better sense of control than a clutch. It feels like you're piloting a spaceship rather than trudging over land. For a person who loves performance and control, gas engines are yesterday's news.

I agree. Don’t miss fumes and oil changes one bit.

I started with a 69 Dodge Charger.
Had Audi’s and VW’s all with sticks.
Never buy another VW / Audi after diesel gate.
Never got sucked into a new “Pony” car.

Had a Model 3 Performance. I liked it a lot but it was a bit loud on the highway and stiff suspension got old. Switched to a non performance Model X, much more comfy. So much less tiring driving up to the lakes on AutoPilot.

Absolutely amazing vehicle. Makes everything else seem so archaic. When I drive my wife’s Volt I’m all over the road, I’m so used to the car doing the driving. Incredible in the snow too.

I love doggie mode.