Moultonborough continues to polarize

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Your posts are funny--

If you are a gun club, you are right if you arrive before the residents (this one I actually agree with).

But if you're the residents, the gun club is right even if you get there first.

It would be easier for us to follow if you just said from the start that you think gun clubs should have priority over homeowners under any circumstances

No offense but you apparently can't read.

First post I wrote specifically addressed people that move in next to a gun club and try to shut it down. That's just plain wrong.

My second post said something completely different in that the person(s) that are shooting on their own property have the right to do so and it is perfectly legal. I stopped short on commenting on whether or not they can or should be stopped.

I personally have no problem with anyone shooting so long as it's done in a safe responsible manner.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by MAXUM

No offense but you apparently can't read.

First post I wrote specifically addressed people that move in next to a gun club and try to shut it down. That's just plain wrong.

My second post said something completely different in that the person(s) that are shooting on their own property have the right to do so and it is perfectly legal. I stopped short on commenting on whether or not they can or should be stopped.

I personally have no problem with anyone shooting so long as it's done in a safe responsible manner.

None taken--I have my son reading your stuff to me, then he types my reply.

But it's not really sporting of you to "stop short". It seems obvious from your post that you favor the gun clubs opening next door to established neighborhoods. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[longislander]

Moultonborough ...........

From Walter ... to gun clubs ?????????????????????????

[MAXUM]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

None taken--I have my son reading your stuff to me, then he types my reply.

But it's not really sporting of you to "stop short". It seems obvious from your post that you favor the gun clubs opening next door to established neighborhoods. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Well here's the deal as I am on the fence with this one. I have no problem at all with anyone who chooses to shoot on their own property for their own enjoyment so long as it is done safe. As I have already said my neighbor does it all the time, he bought his house so he could do this and I have no problem with it. This is a zoned low density residential area.

Now far as a "gun club" goes, is this really a gun club or a owner inviting friends over and they happen to throw a lot of lead around? Let's be accurate with identifying exactly what is going on here. Thus far reality doesn't seem terribly clear and not being familiar with the story I won't make assumptions. To an ignorant observer volume of shots fired may be disturbing but doesn't necessarily mean there are large volumes of individuals engaged at the same time.

All that said - whether the abutters like it or not the landowner has rights too. I personally would not endorse trying to shoehorn in a firing range that is open to paid membership use close to a residential area just because it's not conducive for them to cohabitate in close proximity to one another due to the noise generated. Site work can be done to reduce the overall noise but nothing will completely eliminate it.

[marinewife]

The Union Leader wrote an article about the shooting platforms and issues last October 2019.

One can Google: Charles Purse or Chuck Purse Moultonborough and find it.

It looks like the intention was for friends to use it.

[mswlogo]

Originally Posted by marinewife

The Union Leader wrote an article about the shooting platforms and issues last October 2019.

One can Google: Charles Purse or Chuck Purse Moultonborough and find it.

It looks like the intention was for friends to use it.

It all boils down to "reasonable use". Some people might have 3 friends, another might have 300. If it was several non stop hours every weekend I'd be pissed. Those that also own and use gun ranges might have more tolerance than ones that don't. But I'm sure everyone has their limits.

It's just about common respect for one another. Most people go to the lakes region for peace and quiet. Not to listen to boys play with their toys.

I was once going for my pilots license and learning at a suburb airport. I absolutely loved it. Until I learned that the old small planes still used leaded fuel (all be it low lead, it was leaded). I could not get past the fact that I was poisoning the homes below for my enjoyment. So I quit. Do what you want, but you should respect your fellow neighbor. Something that is severely lacking in society today. And it ain't the millennial's nor those folks from Mass that are lacking it any more than the natives.

I don't know the terrain or the size of the guns being used. But gun fire can travel really far around mountains and lakes.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by mswlogo

Most people go to the lakes region for peace and quiet. Not to listen to boys play with their toys.

Interesting comment, and it may or may not be true, or maybe more region specific.

I literally just said to my wife how I love to come to Winnipesaukee to listen to power boats. As a child there was nothing better than hearing the drown of a boat at night making its way up or down Alton Bay. The way the sound just hangs in the bay is so unique and soothing and just speaks to my brain. And for 58 years it remains just a soothing and enjoyable. And to a lessor extent when in Northern NH or Maine, the sound of snowmobiles on a long trail creates a unique sound that I could almost record and play at home.

Clearly people have very different preferences and its unfortunate that these differences are so extreme and polarizing.

For 100+ years people have come to Winnipesaukee and the the lakes region for their various reasons and there have been all kinds of changes and dust-ups of the changes, but never have I seen so many problems as the last 20 years with the migration of so many from Massachusetts to NH and looking to change what it was to something else.

And please dont interpret my comments to be mean anything specific other than what I said.

I am not looking for my nostalgic memories and current preferences of open and above the water line exhaust classic boats to become 120 MPH races by novices in cigarette boats across the Broads, not do I believe the right to shoot on your own acreage (in a safe manner) should universally be allowed to evolve in to a massive shooting range for uber high power or automatic weapons.

Good Luck to all in sorting this mess out,,, Its not going to be easy to find the balance here and with the people involved.