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Old 09-09-2020, 09:09 PM   #1
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It might it might not but that’s not the issue. They have a right to use the lake just like I do and if they are 160ft out they are legal and I have to live with it and hope they are respectful.

Just because you own waterfront and I did for 12 years doesn’t mean I own the lake in front of my home. The door swings in both directions.

At the end of the day if you buy a waterfront home especially in a quiet cove you should also understand there is a possibility of people anchoring off your property. You cannot be naive.
I'd expect things to change where there's abuse.
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Old 09-10-2020, 05:16 AM   #2
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Is this from your place? If so, is this an uncropped image and how often does it occur?

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Old 09-10-2020, 08:25 AM   #3
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Think, i have seen this and it occurs often. I like Sue's description-they are having a "roaring" good time.
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:35 AM   #4
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Unhappy Why

Scratching my head wondering why this is fun for anyone.

I can see 2 or maybe 3 boats max wanting to do this, more makes no sense to me, just not seeing it.

What am I missing???
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:53 AM   #5
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The above photo represents activity that happens on a regular basis. This particular spot was not granted a "no rafting zone" and has become a popular destination for a "roaring good time"
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The above photo represents activity that happens on a regular basis. This particular spot was not granted a "no rafting zone" and has become a popular destination for a "roaring good time"
Well, I must be traveling to the right spots, as I have never seen this on Winnipesaukee myself.

Again, no idea why this is fun,,,

When we want to hit a sand bar, I wont even stop if its too busy.

If I visit the lake on a Saturday, its like maybe once or twice a year, just too busy for my tastes. I have to repeatedly remind my wife and kids not to make plans for Saturday boating, because we are not going!

I dont like the lake empty, always good to see other people and boaters, but there is a thing called too much and I feel like I'm the only one who says that.

I will wait for dock space at the various town docks (for a while) so long as people are behaving reasonably, and if it gets too cutthroat we just leave. Yes the jackasses win, but I dont care, as I have no interest in fighting idiots being reckless with their boats just to gain a 5 minute advantage. Miserable person that I am, I simply hope karma gets them and I usually leave.

Yup, becoming more and more curmudgeon with each passing year,,,
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Old 09-10-2020, 11:42 AM   #8
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If in fact the area in the pic that APS has in his post (Johnson's Cove?) is not designated a "no rafting area"...what are they doing wrong?? Did I miss something??...

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That is the spot and you missed nothing.
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If in fact the area in the pic that APS has in his post (Johnson's Cove?) is not designated a "no rafting area"...what are they doing wrong?? Did I miss something??...

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This does look like Johnson’s cove and I have seen these boats like this, once this year. I don’t go often so I can’t say if this happens a lot or not. However, I find it kinda funny that this is the location, some people want us to say, this is just awful, the poor landowners! As I recall, there isn’t a single house on Johnson's cove! There is one across the street at the far end of the cove and quite far up away from the road which I believe is a rental properly, but I could be wrong. I think there is one dock and a couple of barges, nothing else.

I don't care where people anchor, just be mindful of others and don't blast your music all day long. Believe it or not, not everyone likes the music you play just as not everyone likes my music choices.

All be safe and enjoy what we have here on the lake. Not everyone is as lucky as we are.
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Is this from your place? If so, is this an uncropped image and how often does it occur?
My place is about a ½-mile distant. I might be able to recapture this image to show the property owner trying to get his sailboat fully rigged, off the mooring, and out of the cove. Maybe he'll ask to have a boat moved for passage?

The surrounding properties were purchased maybe ten years ago and, at one time, were for sale. Not too far away is a house presently for sale—just $10,000,000.

This picture was forwarded to me by a neighbor, but this is a usual summer weekend "convention" of visitors. There are usually many more boats.

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Johnson's Cove, on Wolfeboro Neck.

When I first saw it, there was a two-story sawmill located there—but abandoned. There'd also been a slalom waterski course set up in its quiet waters. Turtles ("Painted Sliders") once abounded in the foreground of this picture.

Rainwater runoff from the former airport property drains an abutting forested area once known as "the dump", and flows alongside the roadway into Johnson's Cove.

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This does look like Johnson’s cove and I have seen these boats like this, once this year. I don’t go often so I can’t say if this happens a lot or not. However, I find it kinda funny that this is the location, some people want us to say, this is just awful, the poor landowners! As I recall, there isn’t a single house on Johnson's cove! There is one across the street at the far end of the cove and quite far up away from the road which I believe is a rental properly, but I could be wrong. I think there is one dock and a couple of barges, nothing else.

I don't care where people anchor, just be mindful of others and don't blast your music all day long. Believe it or not, not everyone likes the music you play just as not everyone likes my music choices.

All be safe and enjoy what we have here on the lake. Not everyone is as lucky as we are.
It's the only place I've seen a boat captain wrap his anchor (and line) around a tree.

The former owner of Johnson's Cove built a postwar cottage uphill from the cove. It had been rented in the past, but this sailboat owner is a "regular", and built his dock not knowing

The weekend "parade" of these boats prevent regular weekenders from anchoring in Winter Harbor. The wakes are just too intense for anchoring a boat, but that and intense erosion is "all legal".

If I lived there, I'd buy some powerful amplifiers, and practice my "freedom of speech".
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I remember visiting Brad Frankham next to Johnson Cove in the 50's. Not a great place to anchor due to logs left over from the sawmill and the hurricane of '38 if I remember correctly. Lots of steps up the steep hill to his house. He had a 36' Chris Craft (Sea Witch), a Laker, can't recall name, and a sailboat converted to steam (Punkin Seed). Same place? It probably wasn't called Johnson Cove in those days.
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I always remember it being called Johnson's Cove.
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I remember visiting Brad Frankham next to Johnson Cove in the 50's. Not a great place to anchor due to logs left over from the sawmill and the hurricane of '38 if I remember correctly. Lots of steps up the steep hill to his house. He had a 36' Chris Craft (Sea Witch), a Laker, can't recall name, and a sailboat converted to steam (Punkin Seed). Same place? It probably wasn't called Johnson Cove in those days.
Everywhere else, it's always been Johnson's Cove; however, one chart had listed the cove as "Ike's Cove". The most prominent part of Johnson's Cove is a tiny sandy cove, alternatively called Frankum's Beach or "Land's End" by us locals.

At "Shadowbrook", I bought a Model "T" Ford from Brad Frankum: It was painted white with red spoked wheels.

Back then, perhaps 50 logs were floating next to the sawmill, attached with huge iron staples—chained together to keep them from drifting away. Many other logs had sunk to the bottom, or were resting on end—angled hither and yon.



On weekends, fishermen collected in twos and threes to catch lunkers there.

Here's a re-photograph taken of the Sea Witch—recently hanging in his expansive living room.



Also, I reported (here) his entire 50-foot dock floating in Winter Harbor just after Ice-Out.

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I wonder who Ike was, APS. Do you know?
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Wasn't that the President between Truman and Kennedy?

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Do you think the President Ike vacationed at Johnson Cove?
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More likely Lyndon.
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That reminds me of the very amusing bumper sticker circa early 60s:

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HELL, I EVEN MISS HARRY!”

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Ike is a fairly common first name here in the hinterlands. After all, just in Wolfeboro, you may remember an Ike Albee. In North Carolina, an Ike Johnson is presently running for Congress.

Logically, it would follow that the cove was named for a local timberman, Ike Johnson.

The cove's previous owner, the late Brad Frankum, was Wolfeboro's own "Daddy-Warbucks". He was frequently seen in the area, frolicking with his two teen nephews.

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"It's the only place I've seen a boat captain wrap his anchor (and line) around a tree."

Same here, except I was down 30’ retrieving that anchor! (not my anchor) LOL Lots of things down there to get snagged on.
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