Amerigas - so unreliable

dpg · 03-16-2021, 03:04 PM

That's correct 1.30

LoonGuy would you mind saying what you're paying them? Just wondering what kind of price we're getting.

loonguy · 03-16-2021, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dpg

That's correct 1.30

LoonGuy would you mind saying what you're paying them? Just wondering what kind of price we're getting.

You are getting a great price. I pay more than double that, $3.20 if I recall correctly. I wonder if the $1.30 price would still apply for a new homeowner association deal arranged in 2021. There appears to be a huge incentive for a group arrangement if you meet the qualifications. How many Suissevale residents are part of the Amerigas deal?

winni83 · 03-16-2021, 03:53 PM

We are not part of an association, but for us in the past, Rymes has always met the price put out by Our Town Energy Alliance (which has usually been an Eastern Propane price. $1.70 for 1200 to 1400 gallons this year. Not as great as $1.30 however.

loonguy · 03-16-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by winni83

We are not part of an association, but for us in the past, Rymes has always met the price put out by Our Town Energy Alliance (which has usually been an Eastern Propane price. $1.70 for 1200 to 1400 gallons this year. Not as great as $1.30 however.

So who can qualify to be part of Our Town Energy Alliance?

winni83 · 03-16-2021, 04:41 PM

Well, it is a very exclusive organization😎. Sign up and pay the annual fee which this year was around $30.00. The propane prices are released in May or so. We use the OTEA price to negotiate with our supplier, or you could switch to the OTEA supplier, which is Eastern this year and has been for a while. We have an underground tank which we do not own so switching is not an easy task.

See

https://ourtownenergyalliance.com/

loonguy · 03-16-2021, 04:54 PM

Amerigas owns the tanks for my gas. I wonder how difficult it would be to swap them out or buy them. The large tank is about 30 years old so arguably the price to buy it should be low. The two smaller tanks were just installed in last Fall. All were just filled which complicates the swap and pricing issues. I also wonder if there is a way to piggyback onto the Suissevalle deal.

winni83 · 03-16-2021, 05:02 PM

Whether or not to own the tanks is an individual decision. Above ground tanks are relatively easy to switch out or buy. Owning makes it very easy to change suppliers. But owning means it is your problem if something goes wrong with the tank. If your 30 year old tank is above ground I for one would not want to own it. Be careful about tank rental fees. For us because of our usage there is no tank rental fee.

tis · 03-16-2021, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by loonguy

Amerigas owns the tanks for my gas. I wonder how difficult it would be to swap them out or buy them. The large tank is about 30 years old so arguably the price to buy it should be low. The two smaller tanks were just installed in last Fall. All were just filled which complicates the swap and pricing issues. I also wonder if there is a way to piggyback onto the Suissevalle deal.

I believe when I called and asked about this they told me the new company would buy the tank. Call and ask them.

Sue Doe-Nym · 03-16-2021, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by loonguy

Amerigas owns the tanks for my gas. I wonder how difficult it would be to swap them out or buy them. The large tank is about 30 years old so arguably the price to buy it should be low. The two smaller tanks were just installed in last Fall. All were just filled which complicates the swap and pricing issues. I also wonder if there is a way to piggyback onto the Suissevalle deal.

Not positive, but I am 99% sure that you need to live in Suissevale, or your land needs to abut Suissevale. If you are near the Loon Center, probably not.

dpg · 03-17-2021, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by loonguy

Amerigas owns the tanks for my gas. I wonder how difficult it would be to swap them out or buy them. The large tank is about 30 years old so arguably the price to buy it should be low. The two smaller tanks were just installed in last Fall. All were just filled which complicates the swap and pricing issues. I also wonder if there is a way to piggyback onto the Suissevalle deal.

Hi loonguy I'm not sure how many are in the Amerigas setup with Suissevale but there's probably a few hundred homes in the entire association so I'm guessing it's a pretty good amount. I know it's not uncommon when I'm up there this time of the year to see one of their trucks driving down a street. Far as a company owned tank getting someone else to deliver will be an issue. When I was concerned about getting to low this winter I got an account going with Rymes and the first thing they asked was if the tank was owned by me. The woman stated it's "illegal" for them to deliver to it if it's owned by another company. Personally I'd look into taking ownership myself but that's just my opinion. Don't have the amount right in front of me but I (think) Rymes was something like 2.50 - 2.60 when I got the delivery. Over a dollar more a gallon still beats running out!!

I know I didn't pay over 3.00 that I would remember.

tis · 03-17-2021, 07:20 AM

As i said before I was out of state a few years ago and we had that bad wind storm and our power was out for a few days. I called Rymes to fill my generator tanks and they would not deliver for two week-my normal delivery. I explained about the storm in our area but it made no difference. I got Wolfeboro Oil to deliver to me. (I owned the tanks.) So I guess my point is, I prefer to own the tanks and then you can have whoever you want. We have tanks for three different things and only own the generator ones. We don't use a lot of gas soI guess we weren't too important.

dpg · 03-17-2021, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

As i said before I was out of state a few years ago and we had that bad wind storm and our power was out for a few days. I called Rymes to fill my generator tanks and they would not deliver for two week-my normal delivery. I explained about the storm in our area but it made no difference. I got Wolfeboro Oil to deliver to me. (I owned the tanks.) So I guess my point is, I prefer to own the tanks and then you can have whoever you want. We have tanks for three different things and only own the generator ones. We don't use a lot of gas soI guess we weren't too important.

Wow sorry to hear that when I called totally out of the blue they came out within three days something there has apparently changed I'm guessing anyway. Never a customer I had to get online and open an account first.

tis · 03-17-2021, 03:23 PM

They have been sold since so maybe they are better now. The last time I called they did come in a few days. I am on call now, before I was automatic and apparently if I wasn't scheduled they weren't about to deliver. So hopefully the new company is more responsive????

03-16-2021, 03:04 PM	#1
dpg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,591 Thanks: 150 Thanked 229 Times in 166 Posts	That's correct 1.30 LoonGuy would you mind saying what you're paying them? Just wondering what kind of price we're getting.

03-16-2021, 03:53 PM	#3
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 426 Thanks: 17 Thanked 212 Times in 134 Posts	We are not part of an association, but for us in the past, Rymes has always met the price put out by Our Town Energy Alliance (which has usually been an Eastern Propane price. $1.70 for 1200 to 1400 gallons this year. Not as great as $1.30 however.

03-16-2021, 04:41 PM	#5
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 426 Thanks: 17 Thanked 212 Times in 134 Posts	Well, it is a very exclusive organization😎. Sign up and pay the annual fee which this year was around $30.00. The propane prices are released in May or so. We use the OTEA price to negotiate with our supplier, or you could switch to the OTEA supplier, which is Eastern this year and has been for a while. We have an underground tank which we do not own so switching is not an easy task. See https://ourtownenergyalliance.com/

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03-16-2021, 04:54 PM	#6
loonguy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Moultonborough near the Loon Center Posts: 196 Thanks: 60 Thanked 69 Times in 47 Posts	Amerigas owns the tanks for my gas. I wonder how difficult it would be to swap them out or buy them. The large tank is about 30 years old so arguably the price to buy it should be low. The two smaller tanks were just installed in last Fall. All were just filled which complicates the swap and pricing issues. I also wonder if there is a way to piggyback onto the Suissevalle deal.

03-16-2021, 05:02 PM	#7
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 426 Thanks: 17 Thanked 212 Times in 134 Posts	Whether or not to own the tanks is an individual decision. Above ground tanks are relatively easy to switch out or buy. Owning makes it very easy to change suppliers. But owning means it is your problem if something goes wrong with the tank. If your 30 year old tank is above ground I for one would not want to own it. Be careful about tank rental fees. For us because of our usage there is no tank rental fee.

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03-17-2021, 07:20 AM	#11
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,702 Thanks: 751 Thanked 1,454 Times in 1,011 Posts	As i said before I was out of state a few years ago and we had that bad wind storm and our power was out for a few days. I called Rymes to fill my generator tanks and they would not deliver for two week-my normal delivery. I explained about the storm in our area but it made no difference. I got Wolfeboro Oil to deliver to me. (I owned the tanks.) So I guess my point is, I prefer to own the tanks and then you can have whoever you want. We have tanks for three different things and only own the generator ones. We don't use a lot of gas soI guess we weren't too important.

03-17-2021, 03:23 PM	#13
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,702 Thanks: 751 Thanked 1,454 Times in 1,011 Posts	They have been sold since so maybe they are better now. The last time I called they did come in a few days. I am on call now, before I was automatic and apparently if I wasn't scheduled they weren't about to deliver. So hopefully the new company is more responsive????