The Dive

[MotorHead]

You all must have a designated driver or a captain.

If I were marine patrol, I would just anchor in front of it.

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by MotorHead

You all must have a designated driver or a captain.

If I were marine patrol, I would just anchor in front of it.

Pretty sure that would constitute harassment.... No different than the cops parking in front of any other legal drinking establishment. The MP has plenty of other things on their to do list...

Woodsy

[MotorHead]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Pretty sure that would constitute harassment.... No different than the cops parking in front of any other legal drinking establishment. The MP has plenty of other things on their to do list...

Woodsy

I would rather have the drunks harassed then have a kayaker killed.

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by MotorHead

I would rather have the drunks harassed then have a kayaker killed.

Of course you would trample the rights of a legal business and its patrons.... No surprise there!

Woodsy

[MotorHead]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Of course you would trample the rights of a legal business and its patrons.... No surprise there!

Woodsy

So, you are OK with people dying as long as drunks can have fun.

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by MotorHead

So, you are OK with people dying as long as drunks can have fun.

Personally, I have an issue with constitutional rights being trampled in the name of safety! To quote Ben Franklin - ""Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

The Dive is no different than any other LEGAL drinking establishment that is boater accessible. That you would be OK with harassment of a legal business that to date has done nothing wrong speaks volumes to your character!


Woodsy

[MotorHead]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Personally, I have an issue with constitutional rights being trampled in the name of safety! To quote Ben Franklin - ""Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

The Dive is no different than any other LEGAL drinking establishment that is boater accessible. That you would be OK with harassment of a legal business that to date has done nothing wrong speaks volumes to your character!


Woodsy

Numbnuts, read what I wrote before jumping down my throat.

I never said Dive has done anything wrong or illegal. All I am saying is that, drunk or drugged people should not operate cars or vehicles.
If you get drunk at Dive and hit me by accident, guess who is getting sued? Yes, Dive will get sued as well as you.

Before you start running around on the streets with your gun and a flag screaming FREEDOM, read the facts.
If you get drunk at a bar and kill someone, that bar would be considered the enabler. You are such a moron.

You can't fix stupid.

[Woodsy]

Originally Posted by MotorHead

Numbnuts, read what I wrote before jumping down my throat.

I never said Dive has done anything wrong or illegal. All I am saying is that, drunk or drugged people should not operate cars or vehicles.
If you get drunk at Dive and hit me by accident, guess who is getting sued? Yes, Dive will get sued as well as you.

Before you start running around on the streets with your gun and a flag screaming FREEDOM, read the facts.
If you get drunk at a bar and kill someone, that bar would be considered the enabler. You are such a moron.

You can't fix stupid.

I read what you wrote.... its not my fault you advocate to trample the rights of a legal business and customers under the guise of "safety"! Perhaps a return to prohibition would better suit you?

You are so wicked smaht... you resorted to name calling! Shocked I am!

You are the one who advocated for the MP to harass a legal business and its patrons...

"If I were marine patrol, I would just anchor in front of it."

"I would rather have the drunks harassed then have a kayaker killed."

Those statements speak volumes to your character.... you paint the Dive and its customers with a pretty wide brush, with absolutely no proof whatsoever of wrongdoing by either. Pretty bold assumption coming from a wicked smaht person such as yourself!

Woodsy

[joey2665]

Originally Posted by MotorHead

I would rather have the drunks harassed then have a kayaker killed.

This is really a non issue as the Dive doesn’t really leave the pier at the weirs any longer. Or at least it didn’t last year.


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[ushaggerb]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Pretty sure that would constitute harassment.... No different than the cops parking in front of any other legal drinking establishment. The MP has plenty of other things on their to do list...

Woodsy

I believe you're mistaken. Cops can park in front of a legal drinking establishment. They almost never do because they understand impact on business, but it doesn't constitute (legal definition) harassment. So no rights are being trampled on by the suggestion.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by Woodsy

Pretty sure that would constitute harassment.... No different than the cops parking in front of any other legal drinking establishment. The MP has plenty of other things on their to do list...

Woodsy

Do they really,,,

I would argue intoxicated boaters are at the top of the concern list way above most other infractions. AND its too often a contributor to serious boat crashes.

Other than rescues, I really cant think of anything I would rather have the MP doing than monitoring for and attempting to stop intoxicated boat operators.

And to the the Marine Patrol I say thank you for your efforts to keep the lake safe from captains who have had too much to drink. I can only imagine what the MP Officers must put up with when the stop and question boat owners with big egos and bad attitudes. It must be a nightmare to deal with them,,, Too often we only stop these captain boneheads after someone is injured or dead.

[LikeLakes]

I'd like to think the majority of boaters stopped by MP are polite and realize they are just doing their job, keeping the lake safe for everyone. Maybe that's wishful thinking, I don't know any MP staff personally so not sure.

I don't think the Dive needs to be, or should be, targeted by MP. There are more than enough places, sandbars and town docks, where people have just as much opportunity to drink before boating, I don't see a need to prioritize that one business over others.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by LikeLakes

I don't think the Dive needs to be, or should be, targeted by MP. There are more than enough places, sandbars and town docks, where people have just as much opportunity to drink before boating, I don't see a need to prioritize that one business over others.

No disagreement that the Dive should not be singled out from anywhere else where we are likely to find intoxicated operators.

Maybe my message was not well worded, but my intent was that watching for intoxicated operators (wherever you might likely find them) is of top concern to my in the duties of the Marine Patrol. Intoxicated operators is far more concerning to me than than most other infractions. Not to ignore other violations, but for me most other matters are a distant second.

And this just my opinion, likely there are many others.