Busy day on the BIG Lake Saturday the 29th

gwood · 07-31-2006, 03:37 PM

I am vacationing up there with my boat next week so I want to make sure I have a couple of things straight from this thread.

First, what is a GFBL? I'm not sure, but I don't think I want to be one.

Second, the 150' rule seems easy but is it? I do alot of boating in rivers and small lakes. How do you judge whether you are 150' away or not? Seems like kind of a hard distance to judge. Any rules of thumb that you use to estimate whether you are 150' or not? I'm just glad they don't have the 600' rule in effect anymore...I don't see how anyone can judge that distance with any kind of accuracy.

Do I need to go buy a range finder?

Thanks.

Resident 2B · 07-31-2006, 03:53 PM

gwood,

GFBL is for Go Fast, Be Loud. It is the big HP multi-engine boats that in some cases go 70++ miles per hour. They often have through the hull exhaust that brings with it a sweet tone to some, and a lot of noise to others.

I use boat lengths to judge the 150' and I try to error on the longer side of the rule. My boat is about 24' so I use seven boat lengths as my guide. It is harder to measure in some dim light conditions and at times you are making judgements on several or more moving boats and fixed land points at one time, so it gets to be a bit of a test, especially on the weekends. The mid-weeks are not usually an issue. The area around the Weirs is great if you like a challenge.

Enjoy the vacation and please let us know your thoughts when you get back home.

R2B

Woodsy · 07-31-2006, 03:54 PM

GFBL stands for Go Fast Be Loud... its essentially a derogatory term used to describe hi performance boats. The funny part is alot of the family style bowriders also have the same type of exhaust system.

The 150' rule is pretty easy if you base it on boat length. How long is your boat? In my case my boat is 26', so I need approximately 6 boat lengths.

Don't worry about all this doom and gloom posted by those who have nothing better to do with thier time. Get yourself a NH boating booklet and come on up and enjoy the lake!

Woodsy

Gatto Nero · 07-31-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gwood

Second, the 150' rule seems easy but is it? I do alot of boating in rivers and small lakes. How do you judge whether you are 150' away or not? Seems like kind of a hard distance to judge. Any rules of thumb that you use to estimate whether you are 150' or not? I'm just glad they don't have the 600' rule in effect anymore...I don't see how anyone can judge that distance with any kind of accuracy.

Do I need to go buy a range finder?

Thanks.

Try to think of something that you know is about 150' long and do a comparison in your head. I picture a football field. 150' = 50 yards, which is 1/2 a football field. Maybe it could be the distance from your front door to a neighbor's front door. Whatever works for you.

lfm · 07-31-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gwood

I am vacationing up there with my boat next week so I want to make sure I have a couple of things straight from this thread.

First, what is a GFBL? I'm not sure, but I don't think I want to be one.

Second, the 150' rule seems easy but is it? I do alot of boating in rivers and small lakes. How do you judge whether you are 150' away or not? Seems like kind of a hard distance to judge. Any rules of thumb that you use to estimate whether you are 150' or not? I'm just glad they don't have the 600' rule in effect anymore...I don't see how anyone can judge that distance with any kind of accuracy.

Do I need to go buy a range finder?

Thanks.

I pace off 150' when taking walks, eyeball something (a car, a mailbox, a boat parked on a trailor), then take a guess at a similar sized object and then pace it off to see how I did. I've found that if I can read a license plate or a bow number then I am pretty close to 150'.

Good luck and enjoy the lake. Whether you're coming to Winni to enjoy the thrill of running your boat WOT or to commune with nature or both, it is a wonderful place, in fact there is no place I'd rather be.

LFM

upthesaukee · 07-31-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gwood

I am vacationing up there with my boat next week so I want to make sure I have a couple of things straight from this thread.

First, what is a GFBL? I'm not sure, but I don't think I want to be one.

Second, the 150' rule seems easy but is it? I do alot of boating in rivers and small lakes. How do you judge whether you are 150' away or not? Seems like kind of a hard distance to judge. Any rules of thumb that you use to estimate whether you are 150' or not? I'm just glad they don't have the 600' rule in effect anymore...I don't see how anyone can judge that distance with any kind of accuracy.

Do I need to go buy a range finder?

Thanks.

For me, it's a 50 yard pitch shot on a golf course. Seeing as how I often find myself "going for the green" and coming up short, I am often times midway between the green and the red (usually) 100 yard marker. When in doubt, err on the side of caution...so what if you are at head way speed at 75 yards (225 feet).

DoTheMath · 08-01-2006, 10:52 AM

A good way for just about anyone to reference this is to use telephone poles. A common or "typical" pole spacing that you see in your average residential neighborhood, (more so down here in the busy suburbs than up north) is 130' +/-. So, if you take a look at that next time you are out in your car or for a walk - and get familiar with it - you will have a good idea of what it is. Throw some common sense and courtesy into the mix and we will have a much safer (and friendlier) lake just by doing something that simple.

LIforrelaxin · 08-01-2006, 12:34 PM

For all you football fans out there a field minus the end zones is 100 yards, so 300 feet..... I just think about half a football field..... (disclaimer: of course this approach assumes you have set foot on a field).......

Waterbaby · 08-01-2006, 08:59 PM

I seem to remember reading on this forum a couple of years ago or so........ isn't there some type of setup in Glendale @ MP HQ, like a marker set up 150' from the end of the dock or something, so that people can get a good idea of what 150' looks like on the water?

codeman671 · 08-01-2006, 09:59 PM

I always tell people to multiply the length of their boat to figure the distance. If I am in a 24' pontoon it is roughly 6 boat lengths. Most of my passengers see this as easy to visualize in this case.

ApS · 08-01-2006, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gwood

"...Any rules of thumb that you use to estimate whether you are 150' or not...?"

Many water ski tow ropes are packaged in 75' lengths. Just "double" a typical skier's distance from the boat, and you'll have your 150' distance.

It's pretty far!

07-31-2006, 03:37 PM	#1
gwood Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	newbie on Lake Winn I am vacationing up there with my boat next week so I want to make sure I have a couple of things straight from this thread. First, what is a GFBL? I'm not sure, but I don't think I want to be one. Second, the 150' rule seems easy but is it? I do alot of boating in rivers and small lakes. How do you judge whether you are 150' away or not? Seems like kind of a hard distance to judge. Any rules of thumb that you use to estimate whether you are 150' or not? I'm just glad they don't have the 600' rule in effect anymore...I don't see how anyone can judge that distance with any kind of accuracy. Do I need to go buy a range finder? Thanks.

07-31-2006, 03:53 PM	#2
Resident 2B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Shore, MA Posts: 1,358 Thanks: 996 Thanked 314 Times in 164 Posts	Two answers to your two questions gwood, GFBL is for Go Fast, Be Loud. It is the big HP multi-engine boats that in some cases go 70++ miles per hour. They often have through the hull exhaust that brings with it a sweet tone to some, and a lot of noise to others. I use boat lengths to judge the 150' and I try to error on the longer side of the rule. My boat is about 24' so I use seven boat lengths as my guide. It is harder to measure in some dim light conditions and at times you are making judgements on several or more moving boats and fixed land points at one time, so it gets to be a bit of a test, especially on the weekends. The mid-weeks are not usually an issue. The area around the Weirs is great if you like a challenge. Enjoy the vacation and please let us know your thoughts when you get back home. R2B

07-31-2006, 03:54 PM	#3
Woodsy Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Weirs Beach Posts: 1,968 Thanks: 80 Thanked 980 Times in 440 Posts	GFBL stands for Go Fast Be Loud... its essentially a derogatory term used to describe hi performance boats. The funny part is alot of the family style bowriders also have the same type of exhaust system. The 150' rule is pretty easy if you base it on boat length. How long is your boat? In my case my boat is 26', so I need approximately 6 boat lengths. Don't worry about all this doom and gloom posted by those who have nothing better to do with thier time. Get yourself a NH boating booklet and come on up and enjoy the lake! Woodsy __________________ The only way to eliminate ignorant behavior is through education. You can't fix stupid.

08-01-2006, 10:52 AM	#7
DoTheMath Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MA / Moultonborough Posts: 146 Thanks: 46 Thanked 43 Times in 18 Posts	What is 150'? A good way for just about anyone to reference this is to use telephone poles. A common or "typical" pole spacing that you see in your average residential neighborhood, (more so down here in the busy suburbs than up north) is 130' +/-. So, if you take a look at that next time you are out in your car or for a walk - and get familiar with it - you will have a good idea of what it is. Throw some common sense and courtesy into the mix and we will have a much safer (and friendlier) lake just by doing something that simple.

08-01-2006, 12:34 PM	#8
LIforrelaxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas, Lake Ray Hubbard and NH, Long Island Winnipesaukee Posts: 2,878 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 893 Times in 525 Posts	a hundred and fifty feet For all you football fans out there a field minus the end zones is 100 yards, so 300 feet..... I just think about half a football field..... (disclaimer: of course this approach assumes you have set foot on a field)....... __________________ Life is about how much time you can spend relaxing... I do it on an island that isn't really an island.....

08-01-2006, 08:59 PM	#9
Waterbaby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kensington, NH and Paugus Bay Marina Posts: 656 Thanks: 323 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	150' Measurement I seem to remember reading on this forum a couple of years ago or so........ isn't there some type of setup in Glendale @ MP HQ, like a marker set up 150' from the end of the dock or something, so that people can get a good idea of what 150' looks like on the water?

08-01-2006, 09:59 PM	#10
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,514 Thanks: 221 Thanked 821 Times in 493 Posts	I always tell people to multiply the length of their boat to figure the distance. If I am in a 24' pontoon it is roughly 6 boat lengths. Most of my passengers see this as easy to visualize in this case.