Seaplane Base and runway 19 Mile Bay Proposed

[chasedawg]

Someone landed a seaplane in the new and approved Pier 19 runway. Then I saw Tom Wood having a discussion on the town wharf. Pictures were being taken where acting as a boat will probably tie up. Wow did that plane make noise far worst than any motor cycle or off shore 1000 HP race boat. Many neighbors were complaining after. The sound echoes in that tight enclosed area.

I would not be surprised to see him tie up at the wharf after all just to check it out. That's fine he is a boat. But there is no way he can reduce prop wash or sound. It will be an interesting summer.

[knowit]

Loud as hell and I live a mile away from there!

[knowit]

Looks like we will need to organize our flotilla of boats to anchor in the runway on the weekends. As boats, we have the right of way.

[knowit]

Here is the email of the Tuftonboro town selectmen. Please take a moment to send them a message on this subject. This needs to be stopped now!


selectmen@tuftonboro.org

[Sundancer320]

I watched the seaplane make it’s run today and went for a closer look. The plane will sit parallel to the dock 3/4 of the way down on the shallow side(right side as you look from shore) the wing crosses just past halfway across the wharf blocking quick access to the fire boat. On its takeoff to the north he gets airborne directly across from the camps on Chase island just past the yellow boat house and then stays in ground effect (water effect to be precise) for about 200-300’ until it begins its climb reaching 300-500’ altitude past Chase. I see potential conflicts arising from this choke point as it is common for boats to speed around Chase heading for Pier 19 and it will be interesting to see how a floatplane in a critical phase of flight maneuvers away at low altitude to avoid an oncoming boat at 30 mph plus who won’t see the floatplane until it clears the corner.

[P-3 Guy]

Originally Posted by Sundancer320

I watched the seaplane make it’s run today and went for a closer look. The plane will sit parallel to the dock 3/4 of the way down on the shallow side(right side as you look from shore) the wing crosses just past halfway across the wharf blocking quick access to the fire boat.

How high off the wharf was the wing? This is one of the things I was asking questions about (yet to be answered). Unless the plane is secured to the wharf nose in, either a wing or the empennage will be over the wharf and obstructing traffic the whole time the plane is alongside. No boat or barge is going to present that same problem. As much as Mr. Wood may claim otherwise, the commercial use of the wharf by a seaplane is not "just like" the commercial use of the wharf by a barge. It's completely apples to oranges, and in evaluating the use of the public wharf by a commercial seaplane operation, different considerations are justified.

[Sundancer320]

Originally Posted by P-3 Guy

How high off the wharf was the wing? This is one of the things I was asking questions about (yet to be answered). Unless the plane is secured to the wharf nose in, either a wing or the empennage will be over the wharf and obstructing traffic the whole time the plane is alongside. No boat or barge is going to present that same problem. As much as Mr. Wood may claim otherwise, the commercial use of the wharf by a seaplane is not "just like" the commercial use of the wharf by a barge. It's completely apples to oranges, and in evaluating the use of the public wharf by a commercial seaplane operation, different considerations are justified.

I took a few pics and will post them... think it’s about 6’ definitely have to duck a bit if you’re average height to taller..

[chasedawg]

Originally Posted by Sundancer320

I watched the seaplane make it’s run today and went for a closer look. The plane will sit parallel to the dock 3/4 of the way down on the shallow side(right side as you look from shore) the wing crosses just past halfway across the wharf blocking quick access to the fire boat. On its takeoff to the north he gets airborne directly across from the camps on Chase island just past the yellow boat house and then stays in ground effect (water effect to be precise) for about 200-300’ until it begins its climb reaching 300-500’ altitude past Chase. I see potential conflicts arising from this choke point as it is common for boats to speed around Chase heading for Pier 19 and it will be interesting to see how a floatplane in a critical phase of flight maneuvers away at low altitude to avoid an oncoming boat at 30 mph plus who won’t see the floatplane until it clears the corner.

Not only that... there are many sunfish, Kayaks, paddle boards in that whole area. They could be not seen until it is too late. Camp Belknap takes many campers in about a dozen canoes around Farm Island and across 19 Mile Bay to the town beach and under the bridge. Plus the NHBM has asked the town to put a moorings in 19 mile Bay for the sailshare program. They will be mooring their sailboat there as well. It is going to be mighty crowded. I would bet that the FAA and The State approving this site for seaplanes have no clue what it's like and what it is going to be. This is a disaster waiting to happen. This site should have never been approved. And guess who the pilots call to get landing clearance.... the store owner. She can not see from the store what condition the bay is in to land a plane. Who thought up this crazy and dangerous plan?

[Just Wonderin]

Originally Posted by chasedawg

Someone landed a seaplane in the new and approved Pier 19 runway. Then I saw Tom Wood having a discussion on the town wharf. Pictures were being taken where acting as a boat will probably tie up. Wow did that plane make noise far worst than any motor cycle or off shore 1000 HP race boat. Many neighbors were complaining after. The sound echoes in that tight enclosed area.

I would not be surprised to see him tie up at the wharf after all just to check it out. That's fine he is a boat. But there is no way he can reduce prop wash or sound. It will be an interesting summer.

I'm so glad to see that in the spirit of true transparency, the flight into Pier 19 was announced, in advance, so all the naysayers could have come to Nineteen Mile Bay to see exactly what Epic has been trying to explain to all of us. Oh wait, it wasn't!