NH Mask Mandates

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by gillygirl

I did look. Lots of articles on the emails, nothing about him losing his job.


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Hahahaha! Silly gilly, don't you know ApS has ALL the inside knowledge that's fit to...find in Australia?!

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[gillygirl]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Hahahaha! Silly gilly, don't you know ApS has ALL the inside knowledge that's fit to...find in Australia?!

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Silly gilly…I like that!


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[FlyingScot]

Jbolty and ApS--thank you for using a citation on the mask point. I just read the link and noticed two things right away. First, the article was titled "Hypothesis" (as opposed to "study" or "trial" or similar). So the author was not asserting that masks were not helpful, only that more study was needed. Second, the article has since been retracted. So the journal has concluded that it is no longer a relevant hypothesis (because masks have been proven effective) or that the original hypothesis had fundamental flaws that were not understood prior to publication.

Personally, I'm glad I've gotten to ditch the face masks I wore for a year, and even gladder than none of my family ended up with covid.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

Hahahaha! Silly gilly, don't you know ApS has ALL the inside knowledge that's fit to...find in Australia?!

Here in the USA:

March 2020. After receiving an email about the experiments at the Wuhan lab, Fauci emails his deputy, Dr. Hugh Auchincloss:

"It is essential that we speak this AM. Keep your cell phone on … Read this paper as well as the email that I will forward to you now. You will have tasks today that must be done.”

As Auchincloss replies, “Will try to determine if we have any distant ties to this work abroad.”

Hmmm...Paper?

Dr. Fauci's scientific paper from 2012? Referencing "Gain of Function"? Referencing a "Risk of Pandemic" from artificially accelerating the potency of a virus? Laboratory work that can't be done--by law--in the USA? Grant millions of US taxpayer-dollars to a burgeoning Communist regime?

There are many emails just disclosed by FOIA lawsuit. (Freedom of Information Act).

These must be damaging, as the NYTs and "Pravda on the Potomac" news-sources are silent (so far).

[Newbiesaukee]

If anyone really wants to see all of the emails here is a link to Reuters which contains links to the thousands of emails. Then choose the ones which best fit your belief system.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2NM1JC

[CooperS7777]

Quite an interesting read on the efficacy of masks conducted by the University of Louisville. So far as I've been able to find, its one of the only full case studies on this issue alone.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....18.21257385v1

[Newbiesaukee]

This was just posted in the Journal of the American Medical Association. It deals with efficacy of masks and all the stuff we are politely discussing.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...m_medium=email

The link seems to work.

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by CooperS7777

Quite an interesting read on the efficacy of masks conducted by the University of Louisville. So far as I've been able to find, its one of the only full case studies on this issue alone.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....18.21257385v1

This is a preprint and has no peer review and states that it should not be used as a guide to clinical practice. This is not to say not to read it, but don’t bet the farm on it.

[trfour]

News about Mask wearing, https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...weigh-n1272890

[gravy boat]

It's click bait. And the usual MSM outlets are trying to scare people.

No reason to wear a mask if you're vaccinated.

However, if you are NOT vaccinated, have health issues or still are quite fearful then you can wear a mask if it makes you feel better.

[fatlazyless]

Marked down, high quality, black masks for sale: Plymouth Walmart has marked down two-paks of very well made black face masks from two masks/$3.97 down to the low, low price of two masks/$0.25.

This is a seriously good deal, and I loaded up by buying eight masks for $1.00.

Such a deal, and I'm starting to feel a little out of place now by wearing a mask in the Market Basket or in the Walmart, except at this low price, it was too good of a deal to not be wearing a mask since I bought them .. : :

..............WEAR A MASK.................
..............OR GO TO JAIL ................ 1918 Flu Pandemic warning posted in public locations to spread this message!

[John Mercier]

I guess it will all depend on what vaccine you got, what the protection rate is against the most dominate variant at the time, and how prolific that variant is in your area.

If it is 93% protection against hospitalization and death... 1 in 14 vaccinated would be the hospitalization rate in a severe outbreak.

Of course, being forced to sit at home for a couple weeks with no pay... that could hurt some. And of course, having too many employees that are either hospitalized or quarantined would be rough on businesses already short on staff.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

I guess it will all depend on what vaccine you got, what the protection rate is against the most dominate variant at the time, and how prolific that variant is in your area.

If it is 93% protection against hospitalization and death... 1 in 14 vaccinated would be the hospitalization rate in a severe outbreak.

Of course, being forced to sit at home for a couple weeks with no pay... that could hurt some. And of course, having too many employees that are either hospitalized or quarantined would be rough on businesses already short on staff.

That's not quite right on the numbers--93% efficacy in this context means that your likelihood of hospitalization is only 7% of the likelihood that an unvaxxed person has. So if an unvaxxed person has a 1 in 10 chance of hospitalization (just for example), then a vaxxed person would have only a 1 in 140 chance. Alternatively--if half of the population is vaccinated, then 13 out of every 14 people in the hospital would be unvaxxed. Get vaxxed!

[John Mercier]

Makes sense.

Israel is reporting lots of breakthroughs with Delta and a new Delta Plus strain.

[trfour]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr...edgdhp&pc=U531

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by trfour

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dr...edgdhp&pc=U531

Constant links with no messages. As a public service, how about you read those articles and tell us what they say?

[John Mercier]

The article is an interview with Dr. Fauci, basically discussing his opinion that once the vaccine(s) receive full FDA approval businesses/etc will change to a policy of mandates for their employees to get the vaccine(s).

[garysanfran]

If you look on the upper part of your left or right arm, you may see a mark I thought we all, in the USA, have...Smallpox vaccine from our youth. Wasn't that mandated to attend public schools?

I also remember drinking polio vaccines from a little paper cup. Just came into school one day and we ALL had a cup on our desks. No parental notification, nor approval. This was in Massachusetts.

[Newbiesaukee]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

If you look on the upper part of your left or right arm, you may see a mark I thought we all, in the USA, have...Smallpox vaccine from our youth. Wasn't that mandated to attend public schools?

I also remember drinking polio vaccines from a little paper cup. Just came into school one day and we ALL had a cup on our desks. No parental notification, nor approval. This was in Massachusetts.

Vaccine requirements (with certain exemptions) to attend school are the norm. Without igniting a forum firestorm, this is primarily why the Covid vaccination resistance is aberrant in its ferocity and scope. It is not basically medical.

https://www.dhhs.nh.gov/dphs/immuniz...hools20-21.pdf

The above link is for NH.

[John Mercier]

Those were FDA approved. The current vaccines are under Emergency Use Authority.

When it changes to FDA approved is when they expect the mandates.

Currently, it isn't authorized for anyone under 12... so it will not be like the smallpox and polio vaccines.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

Vaccine requirements (with certain exemptions) to attend school are the norm. Without igniting a forum firestorm, this is primarily why the Covid vaccination resistance is aberrant in its ferocity and scope. It is not basically medical. The above link is for NH.

Another thing that is very, very aberrant is how many FRIENDS Covid-19 has in the U.S. Nowhere else in the world do you find so many people creating ideal conditions for the spread of a lethal disease.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

Vaccine requirements (with certain exemptions) to attend school are the norm. Without igniting a forum firestorm, this is primarily why the Covid vaccination resistance is aberrant in its ferocity and scope. It is not basically medical. https://www.dhhs.nh.gov/dphs/immuniz...hools20-21.pdf The above link is for NH.

A friend sent me a link featuring Dr. Dan Stock, MD, addressing an Indiana school board. The video takes six minutes to watch, but this must be the fastest-talking doctor in the US!
https://tinyurl.com/956zspru

I don't seem to have any difficulty understanding his medical position, but was wondering what he might have said that could be "aberrant". (But he does say the CDC with its 21,000 employees, are executing a wrong-headed program, which has been mindlessly copied by Indiana's Health Service).

Many medical doctors who speak "aberrantly" on this subject are de-platformed or otherwise blocked by Google, Linked-In, and/or Twitter. What possible factor, besides "monied-interests" could be responsible? (I learned today that even long-standing and resilient MA resident, Howie Carr has been censored from YouTube).

In disclosure:

1) I am vaccinated with J&J.
2) Upon advice of my brokerage-house, I bought stock this June in each of the three US vaccine-makers. (However, as above, I intend to express thoughts critical of "emergency" Covid-19 vaccines).

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

If you look on the upper part of your left or right arm, you may see a mark I thought we all, in the USA, have...Smallpox vaccine from our youth. Wasn't that mandated to attend public schools?

I also remember drinking polio vaccines from a little paper cup. Just came into school one day and we ALL had a cup on our desks. No parental notification, nor approval. This was in Massachusetts.

I think that's because people believed the truth of what they saw with their own eyes: people dying. They didn't call that fake news.