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Old 08-12-2021, 09:27 PM   #1
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Freedom has always been more important than safety to most Americans. “Give me liberty or give me death” was meant literally.


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Old 08-12-2021, 09:49 PM   #2
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I doubt is ''Give me liberty or give me death"... or the Stark paraphrase of Patrick Henry "Live free for death is not the worst of all evils'' that lead to our State motto.

The facts are that capitalism always overcomes. During easy times people get soft, but when the worst hits... then its like an atheist in a foxhole.
All the push and pull that government at all levels tried to do, and what really got it rolling was strong transmission, hospitalization, and death.

In general, we are creatures of limited vision...
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Old 08-13-2021, 06:25 PM   #3
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Thumbs down COVID-19's Effects On Nations Muzzled by MSM/NYTimes...

"NH teachers OK with being vaccinated". With other states, that message arrives with "...or weekly testing". (Implied in the link's article).

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I doubt is ''Give me liberty or give me death"... or the Stark paraphrase of Patrick Henry "Live free for death is not the worst of all evils'' that lead [sic] to our State motto.
The facts are that capitalism always overcomes. During easy times people get soft, but when the worst hits... then its like an atheist in a foxhole. All the push and pull that government at all levels tried to do, and what really got it rolling was strong transmission, hospitalization, and death. In general, we are creatures of limited vision...
After spending most of this lazy afternoon reviewing foreign news from the Anglosphere (England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand), I fear it is too late: "Freedom of Speech" is no longer recognized—except by The State and its media.

South Africa* is going the way of Zimbabwe*, New Zealand* and England* are falling to a distant "religiosity", and Australia suffers worse attacks on Freedom of Speech than the US:
*= "That place over there". (Who is buying-up US cropland).

Also led by their media: Australia's Sky News has been suspended by The Australian State for reporting on a certain laptop computer—now two!—that blackmails the USA leadership* sought by the rest of the free world.

Australia's NSW Health Minister, Dr. Chant said yesterday, "Not to talk to your neighbors, even with a mask".

Look for future examples of "Fear-Porn".
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:51 PM   #4
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Freedom of Speech is not freedom to use others property as you wish.
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Old 08-13-2021, 10:33 PM   #5
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Question In Truth, What Has COVID-19 Wrought?

I liked having a fact-checker in 1995, when Snopes came into existence.

Snopes did seem to punish those who were not on the left, though. What stupid conspiracy theories--easily debunked--I thought to myself: Snopes must be making them up, giving logical, well-resourced answers, and crowning themselves with glory worthy of The Party.

The New York Times reviewed Snopes' efforts with this:

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"a quest to debunk misinformation online."
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml...rism-mikkelson

So, what should happen yesterday, but a founding Snopes partner had been making-up at least 54 entries!

He will still keep control of Snopes with 50% of ownership, but how many millions of people had been made fools of, by "The Fact-Checker of Record"?

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"Critics also say Big Tech companies' control of social media and online searches endangers democracy by fostering divisiveness and spreading alarming conspiracy theories. The U.S. Department of Justice has sued Google..."
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https://www.publicknowledge.org/vide...-should-know/"

You see, the battle for Control involves keeping the fear of COVID-19 before The People all day...for...maybe years.

Those with cardiac concerns should be wary of COVID-19 vaccinations, including the subsequent boosters being discussed now. Too many injuries have been recorded to casually accept another jab. (And I say this as a stockholder).

Excepting the obese, for a disease that kills such a small percentage of the afflicted, the tightly-controlled drumbeat seems to be "working" into 2024.
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Considering the bedlam we reap upon ourselves, Sweden has managed remarkably well—in doing very little!

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Hospitals stand to make a lot of money, but this page couldn't wait to bash the Governors of two states.

My broker also pushed MSN stock, so I'd file this MSN network under COVID-2024.
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