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Old 09-07-2021, 09:47 AM   #1
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Local code enforcer?
I would call DES... since they will issue the permit and any punishment for not following through.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:34 AM   #2
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It can be done. You are allowed a certain percentage of impact within the 50' setback. You would need to prepare a shoreland plan with DES, then go to the town for a variance. It is a lot of work.

FWIW, to add 4' to the front I'd consider just doing it.
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Old 09-07-2021, 11:09 AM   #3
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It can be done. You are allowed a certain percentage of impact within the 50' setback. You would need to prepare a shoreland plan with DES, then go to the town for a variance. It is a lot of work.

FWIW, to add 4' to the front I'd consider just doing it.
Adding anything to the outside of your home in this day and age is risky business without a permit.
I'm sure they can access any shoreline through Google Earth and see if there are any additions that were not performed with a permit, although I would think someone would have to bring it to their attention.
I'm building a new deck on the back of my house and I'm extending it out 5 more feet. I was just going to do it without a permit but I decided against it. It's not worth the risk, applied for a permit Thursday, $30.

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Adding anything to the outside of your home in this day and age is risky business without a permit.
I'm sure they can access any shoreline through Google Earth and see if there are any additions that were not performed with a permit, although I would think someone would have to bring it to their attention.
I'm building a new deck on the back of my house and I'm extending it out 5 more feet. I was just going to do it without a permit but I decided against it. It's not worth the risk, applied for a permit Thursday, $30.
The last time they tax accessed my property it was only exterior measurements, and they did it with an overflight. I expect with drones becoming more common, those overflights will get even cheaper.
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The last time they tax accessed my property it was only exterior measurements, and they did it with an overflight. I expect with drones becoming more common, those overflights will get even cheaper.
I had my roof done by a contractor back in Mass a few years ago as everyone I called locally told me they were 6 months out.
This Mass contractor gave me an estimate with a measurement of my roof from from Google earth. He had the materials delivered and a crew of 10 showed up and did it in a day, and they were a lot cheaper than all the local roof contractors.
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Really, I'd think a deck was a good thing. It takes all that water running off the roof and allows it to be dispersed slowly over a greater area of land. Nobody builds "impervious" decks.

I assume there is a lot of wiggle room for contractors who know what they're doing. I'm seeing breakwater extensions, wooden walkways/docks horizontal to the shoreline, good sized decks in the 50 foot buffer. All being done by big name local area contractors.
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Really, I'd think a deck was a good thing. It takes all that water running off the roof and allows it to be dispersed slowly over a greater area of land. Nobody builds "impervious" decks.

I assume there is a lot of wiggle room for contractors who know what they're doing. I'm seeing breakwater extensions, wooden walkways/docks horizontal to the shoreline, good sized decks in the 50 foot buffer. All being done by big name local area contractors.
Yes. I get many requests for a system that keeps the space below a deck dry... just not many willing to pay the price.
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Local code enforcer?
I would call DES... since they will issue the permit and any punishment for not following through.
I don't know where you live, but here the local code officer knows the state rules as well as the town rules. And it's a lot easier to get an answer from them than it is the state.
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If the enclosed living space of the residence is located behind the 50 foot primary building setback then any attached deck is prohibited from extending across the 50 foot setback. Timetraveler's suggestion of using a detached patio is legal (with a Shoreland permit) and commonly used. Granted it doesn't help if you have a second floor slider to nowhere...
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I don't know where you live, but here the local code officer knows the state rules as well as the town rules. And it's a lot easier to get an answer from them than it is the state.
Belmont.
But my uncle was the code officer for Moultonborough.
The code is always in debate. Better to go to the people that will be enforcing the requirement and bypass any debate.
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