..... tinnitus here, or hear???

[fatlazyless]

Arriving on Wednesday and Thursday from Amazon, this week, are two books on Tinnitus: "Tinnitus No More: The Complete Guide on Tinnitus Symptoms, Causes, Treatments, & Natural Tinnitus Remedies to get Get Rid of Ringing Ears Once and for All" by Brian M Lawrence, $7.99; and "CBD Oil Overview: Control Anxiety, Depression, And Pain With CBD Oil: Turmeric Cbd Oil Benefits" by Billy Hoxit, $8.99.

So all you forum readers out there who are reading this ......how the heck about this!!! ...... for about $17 I will become the foremost expert ever, ever, ever ......that ever lived ..... for reducing the causation and deleterious effects of tinnitus from within the human race for the last 15,000-years! ...... Harvard University Med School and The Albert Einstein College of Medicine won't know what I know about tinnitus ....... absolutely-positively-absolutely ......

Not too shabby for $16.98 & shipping! ......

[SailinAway]

FLL, you're right, your blood pressure is good. Glad you got that checked. I had a similar experience to yours: my tinnitus was a lot worse lying down, especially on one side compared to the other. If you wake up at 4 a.m. and it's bothering you, I suggest using headphones and sleep music. See my post above for specifics. The music does two things: it drowns out the tinnitus, and it lulls you back to sleep. Also, maybe avoid drinking liquids close to bedtime so you're not awakened in the middle of the night?

Check this list of medications that can cause tinnitus: https://www.goodrx.com/blog/these-11...g-in-the-ears/

I assume you had your ear canals examined for wax? Wax can cause increased pressure in the ear.

One last suggestion: bedtime stories or sleep meditations on YouTube. I find those effective if I turn the TV screen away to avoid the light.

Sleep meditation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Ay9v7gK9w

Bedtime stories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4fBgXgxjjg

There is hope, FLL. Tinnitus sometimes goes away on its own. I don't have it at all today.

[fatlazyless]

What seems to work well for getting me back to sleep at 4-am is to listen to "Lisa P Hikes day 1-190" ...... You Tube video ..... 190 different videos from March to October, 2021 with 41-year old Lisa Parker ..... aka "Tex" ...... hiking the entire Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maine, alone by herself with a smart phone self-video held on a walking pole while she is walking.

It makes me feel like I am along with Lisa P. for the hike, going the 2200-mile distance.

I turn the laptop around backwards and just listen to the audio, and usually fall asleep!

To find it, Google: "Lisa P Hikes - Day 1" and I wake up feeling like I've just hiked 18-miles or so, somewhere in Rock-sylvania ......aka Pennsylvania, or somewhere. ....

[Grant]

Hey FLL,

Do you have any other symptoms? Occasional vertigo, balance issues, partial hearing loss in one or both ears? If so, get an ENT to evaluate for Meniere's Disease--it's a vestibular (inner ear) issue that causes (among other annoying, sometimes debilitating things) tinnitus. It usually hits folks in their 40s and 50s. I'm battling it now, and I'm 60.

Good luck!

[trfour]

I hope this helps.

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[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by trfour

I hope this helps.

https://nihao01.top/pages/26uip5

Thanks VERY much for posting this ..... appreciate it ..... will seriously look into it over the next few days.

[Newbiesaukee]

I know people are trying to help…but this whole thing is an infomercial with no real evidence the stuff does anything. There really is no regulation for the product, no proof it even has in it what it claims. It’s similar to all the other ads for memory enhancement, improved male performance, etc. ( Not that I need any of that).

It’s a quirk of the regulations that almost any product that’s not inherently dangerous can claim anything as long as it includes in unreadable small print that basically the company is making no claim that really it works.

If you really care, the disclaimer is at the end of the article.

It’s not necessarily dangerous just no real reason to think it would work better than asparagus. If you read the whole thing ( yes, I have too much time on my hands) it seems to claim to cure just about anything that ails you.

[fatlazyless]

Similarly, about two weeks ago I found a paper back book, 51-pages with large print and double-spaced, for $7.98 titled 'CBD Oil Overview.' Within the Amazon ordering info it says written by Billy Hoxit. On the book itself there is no author what-so-ever and on the last page it says "Made in the U.S.A., Middletown DE, 29 November 2021."

So I am taking no medication what-so-ever for my tinnitus medical problem and usually have two cups of coffee each day, French roast and classic roast, as my ONLY medication.

Back in July, an MD at the Mass Eye & Ear, an ENT, saw me and prescribed Nortriptyline HCL 10mg cap, "take one capsule at bedtime" and I only used it for about four nights before stopping because it made me sleep till 10-am, too long a sleep.

Tinnitus is really complicated, the way it comes and goes, starts and stops, can be weak or strong with no rhyme or reason. Is usually worst in the middle of the night, like at 4-am, and best in the afternoon at 4-pm, but it can happen anytime and last for 24-hours, straight.

For the months of May, June, and July it felt like I was in continuous nervous breakdown mode but over time those feelings pass by and I sort of get used to it, but not really used to it. I just live with it.

What seems to work the best is walking, swimming, pickleball, physical activity ..... I walk about 2.5-miles almost every day and have lost about 15-lbs in the last 12-months.

At its worst it makes it difficult to focus, makes me edgy, and I have to try extra hard to get ordinary tasks like housekeeping done and I just accept it when I don't get something done, and try again later on, or the next day.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

I know people are trying to help…but this whole thing is an infomercial with no real evidence the stuff does anything. There really is no regulation for the product, no proof it even has in it what it claims. It’s similar to all the other ads for memory enhancement, improved male performance, etc. ( Not that I need any of that).

It’s a quirk of the regulations that almost any product that’s not inherently dangerous can claim anything as long as it includes in unreadable small print that basically the company is making no claim that really it works.

If you really care, the disclaimer is at the end of the article.

It’s not necessarily dangerous just no real reason to think it would work better than asparagus. If you read the whole thing ( yes, I have too much time on my hands) it seems to claim to cure just about anything that ails you.

Agreed in general, and the text is laughable. OTOH, for FLL's situation--a lot of people are having good luck with CBD/THC edibles for stress relief, and tinnitus may have a significant stress component. For a few dollars and no safety risk, I would try both CBD and THC if I had tinnitus that was unrelenting.

[ghfromaltonbay]

Walter, Although it can be super annoying to suffer with tinnitus, A little humor helps. Happy Holidays! Let's hope 2022 is a "quieter" year for you.

[fatlazyless]

Thanks very much for the laugh ..... is a funny sign. ....

Honestly, I do not believe my tinnitus has anything to do with stress. I think it has to do with inner ear damage incurred from 1976 to 1996, and a frequent loud banging, steel on steel noise experienced at my job for twenty years that damaged the transmission of sound as it travels along the cochlear nerve inside one or both ears. I have had it, tinnitus, for about one year, 12-months. Before December 2020 I did not have it. It just showed up like a very unwelcome permanent visitor back in early December, 2020. The severity fluctuates throughout the day with 4-am being the worst, and 4-pm being the best, more or less.

You know, I really have no clue where my tinnitus problem came from but maybe it came from doing underwater jumping jacks at the Splash n Burn class in Plymouth, close to Walmart.

From Oct 2011 to March 2020 I went to a water exercise class at the Pemi Baker Community Health, 6-7am, Mon-Wed-Fri, in their swimming pool for one hour class of Splash n Burn. And, while everyone else was doing jumping jacks in the 4.5' section I sometimes like to move to the 6.5' area and do underwater/above water jumping jacks where my head and ears would go in and out of the water so who knows?

Am thinking that once this covid pandemic finally disappears, that Splash n Burn class will get re-started, and it will make this horrible tinnitus problem disappear by ME doing those underwater jumping jacks, but in reverse! ......

Who really knows ? ........ not me ........ easily the #1 worst medical problem in my entire life ...... tinnitus! My 2017 melanoma tumor cancer surgery from my arm was like a walk on the NH appalachian trail on a beautiful fall day compared to this tinnitus problem.

[dpg]

FLL just my .02 here but in my opinion you’ve got to unfortunately learn to live with it. I have been for maybe a year now and honestly the only time it really bugs me is when I let it. The more you get worked up about it the more it will aggravate you plain and simple. I’m 60 and that’s perhaps some of it I have no idea. I haven’t bothered going to my doctor about it just to become a science project with the end result being well nothing… your way to over the top about being slim, fit and healthy forever it ain’t going to happen. I’ve learned to ignore it and most of the time I don’t even hear it any longer… but if you ever do find the smoking gun and cure it let us know. Good luck…

[dickiej]

…..have you tried CBD with turmeric? It worked wonders for my tinnitus. Turmeric reduces inflammation. It takes about a month to kick in, but it worked for me.

[Crusty]

Just saw this thread... I've had worsening tinnitus for at least 20 years now. Mine sounds like a large air handler (with a slightly squeaky belt). It's quite realistic.

I have tried a variety of "cures" and made a few tests, like cut out coffee (nope) , lose weight (helped other things, but not tinnitus), turmeric (nothing), some other patent medicines.

As it grows louder over time, I worry that it's only a matter of time until the neighbors start to complain.

I've learned to ignore it (until reading this thread) so I sleep well. I do not advise "white noise". I've had a lot of experience with it (all bad) and it simply gives the brain additional input to process. [Anyone who has experienced "white noise" at work can testify to the relief felt when the system shuts off.]

If you can't condition yourself to ignore your tinnitus, try consulting a professional hypnotist (seriously). A slight suggestion to ignore it may well be all you need to at least live comfortably with the condition.

One 'comforting thought': I've been told that should I ever go completely deaf, I'll still be able to hear the air handler with the squeaky belt.

[Winilyme]

Originally Posted by Crusty

Just saw this thread... I've had worsening tinnitus for at least 20 years now. Mine sounds like a large air handler (with a slightly squeaky belt). It's quite realistic.

I have tried a variety of "cures" and made a few tests, like cut out coffee (nope) , lose weight (helped other things, but not tinnitus), turmeric (nothing), some other patent medicines.

As it grows louder over time, I worry that it's only a matter of time until the neighbors start to complain.

I've learned to ignore it (until reading this thread) so I sleep well. I do not advise "white noise". I've had a lot of experience with it (all bad) and it simply gives the brain additional input to process. [Anyone who has experienced "white noise" at work can testify to the relief felt when the system shuts off.]

If you can't condition yourself to ignore your tinnitus, try consulting a professional hypnotist (seriously). A slight suggestion to ignore it may well be all you need to at least live comfortably with the condition.

One 'comforting thought': I've been told that should I ever go completely deaf, I'll still be able to hear the air handler with the squeaky belt.

This is when I love this forum the most. Good advice delivered with good humor and a caring attitude. Thank you Crusty.

[dpg]

I haven't caught up and re-read this whole thread but forget about it there's really nothing you can do. As others have said it just unfortunately "happens" to some people. Started with me also (61 last month) but I do not let it aggravate me as it much as it seems to you. Like yourself I consider myself in pretty good shape (for the shape I'm in.) Just had my yearly physical a few weeks ago, normal blood pressure, total cholesterol level 220 and I'm not on anything for that level (yet.) My "good" cholesterol was at a good high range so my doctor left things alone for now. I told him about occasional ringing (becoming more and more) and he surprisingly didn't have much to say. Basically told me unless it effects my hearing (it doesn't) or totally drives me insane (it doesn't) I have to live with it. Just keep "busy" noise going around you the best you can and concentrate on that, music in your car, TV going in the background in the house, etc. Just start switching gears and "teach" yourself to forget about it, your mind can be a powerful tool. Even the doc told me there's really no fix or any specialist to send me too for promising results. I will not become a bunch of doctors science project.

[Cobalt 25]

As many have said, not much you can do about it.

Mine started in 1968. Probably my exposure to loud noises? My M-60 machine gun? A 50 caliber machine gun 7 feet away from me? The 90mm main gun of nearby tanks? 155mm shells landing close by? Jets dropping ordinance nearby? M-79s?

Just do your best to ignore it...

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Cobalt 25

As many have said, not much you can do about it.

Mine started in 1968. Probably my exposure to loud noises? My M-60 machine gun? A 50 caliber machine gun 7 feet away from me? The 90mm main gun of nearby tanks? 155mm shells landing close by? Jets dropping ordinance nearby? M-79s?

Just do your best to ignore it...

That certainly puts things in perspective. So sorry you had to go through that

[FlyingScot]

Hi FLL,

See link for an early but promising result. My tinnitus is too mild for me to have personal interest. But if yours is still torturous, you might want to send this to your doctor to discuss

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.758575/full

[SailinAway]

Very interesting, Flying Scot. "In more than 87.5% of patients (14/15 subacute, 35/40 chronic), tinnitus disappeared or had significantly reduced by the end of the treatment."

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by SailinAway

Very interesting, Flying Scot. "In more than 87.5% of patients (14/15 subacute, 35/40 chronic), tinnitus disappeared or had significantly reduced by the end of the treatment."

Yes, I'm encouraged. I probably should have put a caveat that these results would need to be repeated many times by different groups for us to accept this as proven. But for a person with a severe case, definitely worth investigating now.

[Newbiesaukee]

This is a complicated study and techniques and doubt it would be easy to find someone to do it. The procedures are not without risk. Would like to see some peer review.

With all those qualifications it is still good to have some hope.

[fatlazyless]

For me it usually occurs in the early morning like right now at 5:44-am, and will usually wake me up or happens while I'm asleep? Almost every morning after sunrise I try to lose the tinnitus noise by going for a long walk, about two miles, and this usually helps to lose the tinnitus, temporarily.

It is definitely the worst and most serious medical problem for me.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by fatlazyless

For me it usually occurs in the early morning like right now at 5:44-am, and will usually wake me up or happens while I'm asleep? Almost every morning after sunrise I try to lose the tinnitus noise by going for a long walk, about two miles, and this usually helps to lose the tinnitus, temporarily.

It is definitely the worst and most serious medical problem for me.

FLL, about two months ago I started listening to rain and thunder on YouTube at bedtime. I set the timer on the TV for 1 hour. I have consistently fallen asleep within about 10 minutes with these videos. If tinnitus is waking you up, you can let the video play all night.

My hope is that it would be difficult to hear your tinnitus over the noise of these videos. I urge you to try this. Just do a YouTube search for "black screen thunderstorm." The screen goes black after about 30 seconds. You can also turn the screen away from you for an even darker result. Try this and let us know what happens.

[fatlazyless]

You know what works pretty good for me ........ listening and maybe watching the 'Lisa P Hikes' 2021 eight month You tube, hiking the Appalachian Trail. She is a 41-year old from west Texas known as Tex who works as a tour guide in the Grand Canyon/mule wrangler, guiding and talking to a small group of mule riders as they go up and down the steep canyon trail.

New Hampshire White Mountains, Appalachian Trail thru hike, 2021: Lisa P Hikes;

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTHf2E3696M ..... day 137, South & North Kinsman + Kinsman Pond Shelter, July 25, 2021

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OF38EZJwx4 ..... day 138, Mt Lafayette, July 26, 2021

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuqXQ-YWdh8 .... day 139, Galehead + Zealand Falls Huts in The Whites, July 27, 2021

She is very well spoken!

And, I do believe this tinnitus or something has made me fall deeply, deeply in love with Lisa P Hikes and I am very jealous of her pack mules that she rides up and down the Grand Canyon! ..... ha-ha-ha! ...