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Old 01-04-2022, 11:12 PM   #1
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There are certainly a bunch of moments in my life that could've turned bad, but they've always been mitigated risk. In your situation, you've got flotation and daylight, two pieces missing in the above story.

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I've been out on Winnisquam in a kayak with a little less chandelier ice than that. It was awesome the sounds it made just floating or as we cut through it.
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Old 01-05-2022, 02:26 PM   #2
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A news outlet posted the story and there were more than plenty insensitive comments, similar to here. The father of the young man who didn't make it commented on the post acknowledging that they were young, not making the smartest decisions, and while living life to the fullest and having fun at the time his son paid the ultimate sacrifice. It goes without saying, but he said they're heartbroken (probably the biggest understatement) and respectfully asked for folks to reserve comments. I'd highly recommend doing the same here.
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A tragedy for sure, I feel so bad for the family. Just awful. Mistakes were made, like many said we've all made them at some point in our lives.

Just saying in general, it isn't irresponsible to paddle in cold water/weather. Life jacket is a must of course. I haven't worn a drysuit but certainly that is the ultimate in safety factor, can swim your way out of trouble. I've paddle boarded and kayaked in April and October (April obviously being far colder water), wearing insulated booties, life jacket, sometimes gloves. I don't bundle up in clothing, wear shorts and maybe a hoodie or medium jacket at most. I would not do this in windy weather, or at night. I don't consider it risky, and tremendously enjoy it.
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Old 01-05-2022, 07:44 PM   #4
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I really don’t think posts here were insensitive at all.
A couple of “what were they thinking”.
Then folks reminded us that we were dumb, young and lucky it wasn’t us in the past.
But all in good spirit to encourage people to think around the water.
Watch out for others making dumb moves.
Think what could go wrong and have a plan.
Not just icy water.

I think it’s one of the better threads on the site in a while.

If you saw these kids going in, what would you do or say?
How would you convince them it’s a bad idea?
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Old 01-05-2022, 07:50 PM   #5
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A news outlet posted the story and there were more than plenty insensitive comments, similar to here. The father of the young man who didn't make it commented on the post acknowledging that they were young, not making the smartest decisions, and while living life to the fullest and having fun at the time his son paid the ultimate sacrifice. It goes without saying, but he said they're heartbroken (probably the biggest understatement) and respectfully asked for folks to reserve comments. I'd highly recommend doing the same here.
I agree that people should be respectful. But as with other lake accidents, many of us think it is important to discuss and understand so that we and others will avoid trouble in the future. If we do not do it now, the conversation will never happen. Just as one example of how this can work well--mswlogo has posted that he is rethinking his own cold water kayaking
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Old 01-05-2022, 08:00 PM   #6
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I agree that people should be respectful. But as with other lake accidents, many of us think it is important to discuss and understand so that we and others will avoid trouble in the future. If we do not do it now, the conversation will never happen. Just as one example of how this can work well--mswlogo has posted that he is rethinking his own cold water kayaking
Yeah, it’s a lot like flying accidents. Even hobby flying.
They are very good at picking apart what caused an accident without assigning blame.
Just as a teaching moment.
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Old 01-05-2022, 09:19 PM   #7
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This is a tragic story about cold water, young people, poor decisions and likely alcohol.

I have been there (except for the cold water). I have heard from a 1st responder about some details here, which will remain private. This is sad and we should refrain from judgement.

People of all ages make mistakes and unfortunately, this was mistake upon mistake upon mistake, and the ones here were ones young folks make when you feel bulletproof.

RIP young man.
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Aftermath for January 1, 2022 drowning: Lake Winnipesaukee, Wolfeboro, close to Grant Island ....... http://www.wmur.com/article/family-h...aukee/40490862
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