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Old 02-15-2022, 03:39 PM   #1
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When you say Chipotle is poorly run, I guess you mean except for their $40 billion market cap? They are a huge success story.

And when you say more hours are available--that's true, but you seem to ignore the fundamental problem that many huge successful companies such as Chipotle, Starbucks, WalMart, Popeyes, and Kroeger do not give their part-time workers consistent schedules.

This stuff is in the news at least weekly--it is not one article. Here's another

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/b...sultPosition=8
While it might be a success story, you are making my case it is poorly run. They have been short-staffed at many locations since covid, had supply-chain issues prior to covid and still do now and they can't seem to keep a consistent schedule of being open at many locations. They are poor at managing the staff, often there are items on the menu that are not available and all of the locations I have been to still won't take cash if you do not have exact change. Never mind the food poisoning fiasco they went through a few years ago.

As for the part time full time issue, that goes back to the Obamacare debacle which redefined what part time and full time workers are as it relates to benefits. It was WARNED then that this would happen. Companies would push more workers to part time by cutting hours to reduce the liability and expense of full time workers. Now employees are complaining they aren't getting the hours? They probably supported Obamacare. This was by design to convince folks like you to push for universal healthcare later on. The government created the problem intentionally to get support now for what they could not get support for then.

As I said, plenty of jobs. Large corporations are mostly pigs who claim to be for all of the hot button social issues and the working folks, but that is mostly putting lipstick on the pig. Get a job somewhere else. The NYT is again pushing an agenda through propaganda and people are buying it. It's planned manipulation of the population. I have no love for any large corporate or other entity, be it the media, Chipoltle or the government. But this is the fault of the complainers. It's a giant cesspool. Support the local business. They need the help too.
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Old 02-15-2022, 07:14 PM   #2
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While it might be a success story, you are making my case it is poorly run. They have been short-staffed at many locations since covid, had supply-chain issues prior to covid and still do now and they can't seem to keep a consistent schedule of being open at many locations. They are poor at managing the staff, often there are items on the menu that are not available and all of the locations I have been to still won't take cash if you do not have exact change. Never mind the food poisoning fiasco they went through a few years ago.

As for the part time full time issue, that goes back to the Obamacare debacle which redefined what part time and full time workers are as it relates to benefits. It was WARNED then that this would happen. Companies would push more workers to part time by cutting hours to reduce the liability and expense of full time workers. Now employees are complaining they aren't getting the hours? They probably supported Obamacare. This was by design to convince folks like you to push for universal healthcare later on. The government created the problem intentionally to get support now for what they could not get support for then.

As I said, plenty of jobs. Large corporations are mostly pigs who claim to be for all of the hot button social issues and the working folks, but that is mostly putting lipstick on the pig. Get a job somewhere else. The NYT is again pushing an agenda through propaganda and people are buying it. It's planned manipulation of the population. I have no love for any large corporate or other entity, be it the media, Chipoltle or the government. But this is the fault of the complainers. It's a giant cesspool. Support the local business. They need the help too.
I had not thought about this being an unintended effect of Obamacare, I will look this up.

I have thought about the rest, and although I think you're paranoid about the NY Times, I agree on the other stuff--it is a terrible way to treat people and manage the business in general, large corporations are pigs, and we should shop local. Cheers!
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Old 02-15-2022, 07:28 PM   #3
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They are complaining that terrible management doesn't allow them to fill several open slots that would at least patch the labor shortage.
Improved management techniques would allow for a part-time worker, as defined by the ACA (The Affordable Care Act requires any employer with more than 50 employees to offer health insurance to a minimum of 95% of their employees who work an average of 30 hours a week), to hold two or more jobs and still meet the standards of part-time.

In time, they will move to better management... and Chipotle, along with others will have a worse labor shortage.
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Old 02-15-2022, 09:13 PM   #4
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They are complaining that terrible management doesn't allow them to fill several open slots that would at least patch the labor shortage.
Improved management techniques would allow for a part-time worker, as defined by the ACA (The Affordable Care Act requires any employer with more than 50 employees to offer health insurance to a minimum of 95% of their employees who work an average of 30 hours a week), to hold two or more jobs and still meet the standards of part-time.

In time, they will move to better management... and Chipotle, along with others will have a worse labor shortage.
Good point. Also, the ACA has no impact on the last minute scheduling of workers
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Old 02-17-2022, 06:54 PM   #5
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In the 2000 years there was a big shift in many service industries, including Financial Services, retail grocery, etc. to part-time. Their official reasoning was to better meet high volume periods rather than having worker be idol when there were fewer clients. It made a lot of scene. However, financially the benefit to employer was reduced cost of benefits.

I witnessed this in the Banking Industry. Employees working less than 24 hours a week did not get the health benefits nor participate in retirement packages. These were not minimum wage jobs. They actually paid the part timers a few buck more to offset lack of benefit.

Bottom line it never really worked in attracting or retaining the employees needed to upward mobility. Most everyone can relate to going to the bank at lunch time or at end of day and it being very busy with longer than normal waits.

It never was about the client, but the bottom line. Now many banks are having to decide how to move forward. Make more full time jobs available or pursue the part time market. In most metropolitan areas they are closing offices and consolidating because they can not or will not hire people with 32-40 hours a week jobs. Clients are being forced to use ATM's and other online options. One Bank with part time positions will not even consider people without a college degree!
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