summer officially begins tomorrow, March 5, 2022!

fatlazyless · 03-04-2022, 08:10 AM

Ok everyone ....... tonight, Friday March 4 2022 is probably the last time the temperature overnight will go down to zero-degree Fahrenheit for this year in the lakes region of New Hampshire ..... and summer officially begins tomorrow, Saturday March 5! .....

Big change in the weather, coming soon according to the forecast!

The month of March used to bring a large snow storm in its' first ten days of the month, as happened in the 1970's and 80's. It was standard to get hit with a heavy snowfall with thick dry snow sometime at the beginning of March. But, looking at the forecast, it looks like a lot of rain to be happening soon at a time in March that used to be snow.

Woody38 · 03-04-2022, 01:37 PM

Correct me if I am wrong. Summer begins on Tuesday June 21st.

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LoveLakeLife · 03-04-2022, 03:07 PM

I think FLL was being facetious due to the forecast of no more frigid temps. Officially Woody is right. Aspirationally FLL is right. Lol

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Woody38 · 03-04-2022, 05:35 PM

LoveLake is correct. My bad.
Being in Burbank, CA for the winter it has felt a lot like summer with temps in the 70's and a couple low 80's. Returning soon I will make every attempt to bring those temps along.

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Descant · 03-04-2022, 05:45 PM

Priorities.
Got married June 21st (now anniversary) then we came to the lake. Summer may have started that day, but I don't recall it as being important at the time. Now it's important that it is my grandson's birthday.

mswlogo · 03-04-2022, 06:55 PM

I second Fatlazyless' declaration

My Solar generation agrees too. Look at the jump between Feb and Mar every year.

John Mercier · 03-04-2022, 07:01 PM

Wouldn't that just be due to longer days?
March 20th this year is the vernal equinox.

mswlogo · 03-04-2022, 07:22 PM

Yeah, it's Sum-mah

John Mercier · 03-04-2022, 07:41 PM

Technically, it is Mud Season. Summer would be the solstice in June; after black fly season.

granitebox · 03-04-2022, 07:47 PM

Geez you gotta have an opinion on everything?

Its SUMMER!!!

John Mercier · 03-04-2022, 09:47 PM

It's Spring.
It isn't an opinion.

granitebox · 03-04-2022, 11:01 PM

perhaps it would be better saying do you really need to share your opinion on everything?

this thread itself was never meant to argue the season -

John Mercier · 03-04-2022, 11:40 PM

The purpose of the forum is partially the sharing of opinions.
You could always skip over it.

thinkxingu · 03-05-2022, 05:31 AM

I'm 97% confident John Mercier is a bot.

Bee boo beep.

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John Mercier · 03-05-2022, 07:00 AM

Actually I'm an ANT.

My opinion is that FLL is also an ANT... and he may have stated summer when he meant spring.

upthesaukee · 03-05-2022, 07:42 AM

From NBC 4 New York (WMUR mentioned this as well). Meteorological seasons make it easier to track weather related records vs the astronomical seasons that have been around for centuries, which are based on solstices and equinoxes.

Here is how the seasons are divided meteorologically:

Winter: December 1 to February 28 – the coldest three months of the year.
Spring: March 1 to May 31 – The steady three-month transition from cold to warm.
Summer: June 1 to August 31 – The warmest three months of the year.
Fall: The steady, three-month transition from warm to cold.
The definitions of meteorological seasons are simpler, more consistent, and define the calendar year more logically on the basis of temperature. Scientifically, meteorological seasons are useful for comparing weather year-to-year. Because the timing is the same each year, any comparisons are apples-to-apples, if you will.

As indicated by the above definitions, spring is a transitional period in New York. Temperatures ramp up consistently from start to finish. In fact, the transition is quite impressive. Average high temperatures at the beginning of the season are in the mid-40s. By the end of the season, we’re 30 degrees warmer, with highs averaging the mid 70s. For those of you growing weary of our cold winter weather, this is reason to celebrate!

Dave

thinkxingu · 03-05-2022, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upthesaukee

From NBC 4 New York (WMUR mentioned this as well). Meteorological seasons make it easier to track weather related records vs the astronomical seasons that have been around for centuries, which are based on solstices and equinoxes.

Here is how the seasons are divided meteorologically:

Winter: December 1 to February 28 – the coldest three months of the year.

Spring: March 1 to May 31 – The steady three-month transition from cold to warm.

Summer: June 1 to August 31 – The warmest three months of the year.

Fall: The steady, three-month transition from warm to cold.

The definitions of meteorological seasons are simpler, more consistent, and define the calendar year more logically on the basis of temperature. Scientifically, meteorological seasons are useful for comparing weather year-to-year. Because the timing is the same each year, any comparisons are apples-to-apples, if you will.

As indicated by the above definitions, spring is a transitional period in New York. Temperatures ramp up consistently from start to finish. In fact, the transition is quite impressive. Average high temperatures at the beginning of the season are in the mid-40s. By the end of the season, we’re 30 degrees warmer, with highs averaging the mid 70s. For those of you growing weary of our cold winter weather, this is reason to celebrate!

Dave

There's way more nuance than simply four seasons. Here's the real...12.

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MeredithMan · 03-05-2022, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Actually I'm an ANT.

My opinion is that FLL is also an ANT... and he may have stated summer when he meant spring.

Have not heard of this acronym....Definition?

John Mercier · 03-05-2022, 01:52 PM

Not an acronym...
Aesop.

upthesaukee · 03-05-2022, 10:19 PM

Here's a link.

Dave

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp...obile&ie=UTF-8

LakeDad · 03-05-2022, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by granitebox

perhaps it would be better saying do you really need to share your opinion on everything?

this thread itself was never meant to argue the season -

Some people are no fun at parties. Some like an armchair, velvet coat and a waxed mustache, ready to say: “well…technically….” at any given time.

Calling it summer was clearly tongue in cheek, and a little bit funny, but it won’t be clear to anyone who is just simply waiting to talk/be right in every conversation.

Some are so desperate to show their authority that they must correct everyone at every time, even if that means ignoring the entire tone of the conversation.

John Mercier · 03-05-2022, 11:57 PM

It may have actually been a mistake.
As I stated... FLL is probably an ANT.

To us, spring is a big deal.

fatlazyless · 03-06-2022, 04:41 AM

So ........ ant could be an abbreviation for antique ...... or antagonist .... or an accented way to say "Aunt" as in Ant Sondra ....... well, hello there Ant Sondra ..... how are you! .....

Newbiesaukee · 03-06-2022, 07:34 AM

First of all, the only important seasons are summer and winter. Summer begins when I return to NH and Winter is defined by my returning to Florida.

In Miami, where I have lived for most of my life, there are 2 seasons: Rainy Season and Dry Season. Both NH and FL have Tourist Season, which the “real” residents hate. In both places.

As far as John and FLL, I always read what they post. And sometimes I understand them. But I always appreciate them.

As far as ANT, what else did I have to do but find 95 acronyms none of which fit. As far as Aesop and the Grasshopper, there are apparently deep philosophic differences in the interpretation of this, none of which I understand.

And if you are one of the very few who have read this far; I’m sorry. My family doesn't think I’m funny either. And they are stuck with me.

upthesaukee · 03-06-2022, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

First of all, the only important seasons are summer and winter..........

And if you are one of the very few who have read this far; I’m sorry. My family doesn't think I’m funny either. And they are stuck with me.

Just like my house...stuck with me.... at least until 5pm today when they have to have me back to the home.

Dave

Winilyme · 03-06-2022, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

First of all, the only important seasons are summer and winter. Summer begins when I return to NH and Winter is defined by my returning to Florida.

In Miami, where I have lived for most of my life, there are 2 seasons: Rainy Season and Dry Season. Both NH and FL have Tourist Season, which the “real” residents hate. In both places.

As far as John and FLL, I always read what they post. And sometimes I understand them. But I always appreciate them.

As far as ANT, what else did I have to do but find 95 acronyms none of which fit. As far as Aesop and the Grasshopper, there are apparently deep philosophic differences in the interpretation of this, none of which I understand.

And if you are one of the very few who have read this far; I’m sorry. My family doesn't think I’m funny either. And they are stuck with me.

You have sufficiently cleared this all up for me...thank you.

John Mercier · 03-06-2022, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee

First of all, the only important seasons are summer and winter. Summer begins when I return to NH and Winter is defined by my returning to Florida.

In Miami, where I have lived for most of my life, there are 2 seasons: Rainy Season and Dry Season. Both NH and FL have Tourist Season, which the “real” residents hate. In both places.

As far as John and FLL, I always read what they post. And sometimes I understand them. But I always appreciate them.

As far as ANT, what else did I have to do but find 95 acronyms none of which fit. As far as Aesop and the Grasshopper, there are apparently deep philosophic differences in the interpretation of this, none of which I understand.

And if you are one of the very few who have read this far; I’m sorry. My family doesn't think I’m funny either. And they are stuck with me.

The ANT saw spring and released that the warm whether was a time to begin prepping for the coming winter. The ANT thought long term... so spring, not summer, was the time to move quickly.
The GRASSHOPPER saw the warmth a time to play... for the GRASSHOPPER the seasons were defined as play and starving. The GRASSHOPPER had no need for spring, and never concerned themselves with the future - winter.

So for the ANT, collecting sap... starting seedlings... etc, is what this season is for. Summer will just be too late.

It is sort of like island property owners... they are on ISLAND TIME. Mainland property owners don't always understand that.

So when someone is focused on conserving money... which I see FLL as... they are more ANT than GRASSHOPPER. The coming of spring becomes the big event.

By summer, I will move from working part-time 50 hrs per week into full-time mode, so everything for spring will need to be completed to free up that time.

fatlazyless · 03-21-2022, 09:35 AM

The first day of spring occurs when there is 12-hours of daylight and 12-hours of darkness in a 24-hour calendar day. This supposedly occurred, yesterday, Sunday March 20 at 11:33-am, so here's to spring time, 2022! ....

You know the big rain that fell on Saturday night, March 19 would have been a snow storm back 40-years ago in 1982 as winter used to last right up till about March 25-March 31.

John Mercier · 03-21-2022, 05:18 PM

We've had snow storms later.
The first day of spring is a marker for those starting seedlings.

But historically, we use Memorial Day as the marker to transplant or plant directly into the ground. It helps avoid a spring frost that could harm the seedlings. Obviously, any storm with below freezing temperature could result in snow.

03-04-2022, 08:10 AM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,706 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 993 Times in 724 Posts	summer officially begins tomorrow, March 5, 2022! Ok everyone ....... tonight, Friday March 4 2022 is probably the last time the temperature overnight will go down to zero-degree Fahrenheit for this year in the lakes region of New Hampshire ..... and summer officially begins tomorrow, Saturday March 5! ..... Big change in the weather, coming soon according to the forecast! The month of March used to bring a large snow storm in its' first ten days of the month, as happened in the 1970's and 80's. It was standard to get hit with a heavy snowfall with thick dry snow sometime at the beginning of March. But, looking at the forecast, it looks like a lot of rain to be happening soon at a time in March that used to be snow. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake! Last edited by fatlazyless; 03-05-2022 at 11:04 AM.

03-04-2022, 01:37 PM	#2
Woody38 Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 576 Thanks: 46 Thanked 110 Times in 81 Posts	summer begins Correct me if I am wrong. Summer begins on Tuesday June 21st. ______________________________ I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

03-05-2022, 07:42 AM	#16
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,593 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,444 Thanked 1,977 Times in 1,078 Posts	From NBC 4 New York From NBC 4 New York (WMUR mentioned this as well). Meteorological seasons make it easier to track weather related records vs the astronomical seasons that have been around for centuries, which are based on solstices and equinoxes. Here is how the seasons are divided meteorologically: Winter: December 1 to February 28 – the coldest three months of the year. Spring: March 1 to May 31 – The steady three-month transition from cold to warm. Summer: June 1 to August 31 – The warmest three months of the year. Fall: The steady, three-month transition from warm to cold. The definitions of meteorological seasons are simpler, more consistent, and define the calendar year more logically on the basis of temperature. Scientifically, meteorological seasons are useful for comparing weather year-to-year. Because the timing is the same each year, any comparisons are apples-to-apples, if you will. As indicated by the above definitions, spring is a transitional period in New York. Temperatures ramp up consistently from start to finish. In fact, the transition is quite impressive. Average high temperatures at the beginning of the season are in the mid-40s. By the end of the season, we’re 30 degrees warmer, with highs averaging the mid 70s. For those of you growing weary of our cold winter weather, this is reason to celebrate! Dave __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

03-05-2022, 10:19 PM	#20
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,593 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,444 Thanked 1,977 Times in 1,078 Posts	Here's a link Here's a link. Dave https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp...obile&ie=UTF-8 __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

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fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,706 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 993 Times in 724 Posts	So ........ ant could be an abbreviation for antique ...... or antagonist .... or an accented way to say "Aunt" as in Ant Sondra ....... well, hello there Ant Sondra ..... how are you! ..... __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

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03-04-2022, 03:07 PM	#3
LoveLakeLife Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 602 Thanks: 89 Thanked 218 Times in 146 Posts	I think FLL was being facetious due to the forecast of no more frigid temps. Officially Woody is right. Aspirationally FLL is right. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

03-04-2022, 05:35 PM	#4
Woody38 Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 576 Thanks: 46 Thanked 110 Times in 81 Posts	LoveLake is correct. My bad. Being in Burbank, CA for the winter it has felt a lot like summer with temps in the 70's and a couple low 80's. Returning soon I will make every attempt to bring those temps along. _____________________________ I am a retired workaholic and continuing aquaholic

03-04-2022, 05:45 PM	#5
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,261 Thanks: 1,311 Thanked 1,599 Times in 1,035 Posts	Priorities. Got married June 21st (now anniversary) then we came to the lake. Summer may have started that day, but I don't recall it as being important at the time. Now it's important that it is my grandson's birthday.

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mswlogo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 660 Thanks: 196 Thanked 222 Times in 143 Posts	I second Fatlazyless' declaration My Solar generation agrees too. Look at the jump between Feb and Mar every year.

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03-04-2022, 07:01 PM	#7
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	Wouldn't that just be due to longer days? March 20th this year is the vernal equinox.

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mswlogo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 660 Thanks: 196 Thanked 222 Times in 143 Posts	Yeah, it's Sum-mah

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John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	Technically, it is Mud Season. Summer would be the solstice in June; after black fly season.

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granitebox Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Steamboat Springs - Bear Island Posts: 156 Thanks: 141 Thanked 81 Times in 36 Posts	Geez you gotta have an opinion on everything? Its SUMMER!!!

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03-04-2022, 09:47 PM	#11
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	It's Spring. It isn't an opinion.

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granitebox Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Steamboat Springs - Bear Island Posts: 156 Thanks: 141 Thanked 81 Times in 36 Posts	perhaps it would be better saying do you really need to share your opinion on everything? this thread itself was never meant to argue the season -

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03-04-2022, 11:40 PM	#13
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	The purpose of the forum is partially the sharing of opinions. You could always skip over it.

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03-05-2022, 07:00 AM	#15
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	Actually I'm an ANT. My opinion is that FLL is also an ANT... and he may have stated summer when he meant spring.

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03-05-2022, 11:57 PM	#22
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	It may have actually been a mistake. As I stated... FLL is probably an ANT. To us, spring is a big deal.

03-06-2022, 07:34 AM	#24
Newbiesaukee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Coral Gables, winter; Long Island, summer Posts: 1,351 Thanks: 938 Thanked 570 Times in 296 Posts	First of all, the only important seasons are summer and winter. Summer begins when I return to NH and Winter is defined by my returning to Florida. In Miami, where I have lived for most of my life, there are 2 seasons: Rainy Season and Dry Season. Both NH and FL have Tourist Season, which the “real” residents hate. In both places. As far as John and FLL, I always read what they post. And sometimes I understand them. But I always appreciate them. As far as ANT, what else did I have to do but find 95 acronyms none of which fit. As far as Aesop and the Grasshopper, there are apparently deep philosophic differences in the interpretation of this, none of which I understand. And if you are one of the very few who have read this far; I’m sorry. My family doesn't think I’m funny either. And they are stuck with me. __________________ "You're only young once, but you can be immature forever."

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03-21-2022, 09:35 AM	#28
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,706 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 993 Times in 724 Posts	..... 1st day of spring; Sunday March 20, 11:33-am The first day of spring occurs when there is 12-hours of daylight and 12-hours of darkness in a 24-hour calendar day. This supposedly occurred, yesterday, Sunday March 20 at 11:33-am, so here's to spring time, 2022! .... You know the big rain that fell on Saturday night, March 19 would have been a snow storm back 40-years ago in 1982 as winter used to last right up till about March 25-March 31. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

03-21-2022, 05:18 PM	#29
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,285 Thanks: 3 Thanked 580 Times in 476 Posts	We've had snow storms later. The first day of spring is a marker for those starting seedlings. But historically, we use Memorial Day as the marker to transplant or plant directly into the ground. It helps avoid a spring frost that could harm the seedlings. Obviously, any storm with below freezing temperature could result in snow.