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Old 04-26-2022, 10:07 PM   #1
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Too late, can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube

We all now know how petty and self serving T27 is. Unexpected revelation, obviously some people won’t care and others will. I don’t think this self promotion and subsequent meltdown will be a net positive for the dining venue nor the distillery but it will certainly make for snarky cocktail party fodder

Some people just can’t enjoy their success without imploding
You’re awfully chatty on this topic for someone who’s been a member for eight years but only decided to start posting this week and only on this topic. Sounds like you have an ax to grind


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Please are you serious? Bend and stretch rules? I have seen the moderator bend stretch and twist rules here especially for certain members.

There have always been favorites here and probably always will be. So the guy is promoting himself, the area and other local businesses. Big deal.

Have you read the Covid threads? They should have been shut down a long time ago.
Agree to disagree.

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Unlike some other online groups and chats the Forum software allows easy opportunities to block certain posters and to avoid certain topics whether it be Covid or restaurants. I used to be in a business that required public opposition with the competitors. At the end of the day, we went out for drinks, or other social events. There was great respect for the opposing jobs and employers, and we all did our jobs, as adults, with respect for each other. Time for respect, folks. Leave your opinions at the door, please.
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You’re awfully chatty on this topic for someone who’s been a member for eight years but only decided to start posting this week and only on this topic. Sounds like you have an ax to grind


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I was waiting for someone to chirp about me being “an outsider”. Yes, I’ve been a registered user for 8 years but have been reading this forum for much longer. I can definitely get why you would think I have an “ax to grind” but really can’t think of any circumstance that would cause me to hold a grudge against a guy who simply owns a little restaurant, and I have no problem with distilled beverages, so ya, I’ve no dog in this fight.

I had no idea who Baygo was, but after seeing his tantrum, I admit, I was curious enough to learn who he is. I still have kno idea who the mod is other than people are calling him Don. You can believe me or not

I don’t usually read the forums all that often, mostly when I’m looking for info on a particular issue. This time I was checking to see if there were any new restaurants that have opened recently, looking for some place new to try.

I posted because first of all it was odd seeing 17 large marketing style photos of vodka as I paged down. Didn’t realize it was produced by someone local and didn’t realize the connection to T27 until reading further, people started to question the appropriateness. Then BAM Baygo gets all offended and starts calling out the mod. It was just so unexpected that I was sucked in. I had to look up who this guy was because it just seemed so weird for a normal person to react this way.

I’ll admit yesterday was a slow day and the more I thought about it the more absurd this drama seemed and I’m thinking, this moderator doesn’t need this ****e, the dude seems like he’s just running a fun little restaurant forum and now he’s being forced to defend himself. He took the private 1 on 1 route and Baygo tosses it out for public consumption. Childish, and a bit evil. It just kinda pushed my buttons and I decided to chime in - sorry if it piqued your spider-sense.

Yup, this is long-winded, as today is shaping up to be a bit slow as well 🥱
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I was waiting for someone to chirp about me being “an outsider”. Yes, I’ve been a registered user for 8 years but have been reading this forum for much longer. I can definitely get why you would think I have an “ax to grind” but really can’t think of any circumstance that would cause me to hold a grudge against a guy who simply owns a little restaurant, and I have no problem with distilled beverages, so ya, I’ve no dog in this fight.

I had no idea who Baygo was, but after seeing his tantrum, I admit, I was curious enough to learn who he is. I still have kno idea who the mod is other than people are calling him Don. You can believe me or not

I don’t usually read the forums all that often, mostly when I’m looking for info on a particular issue. This time I was checking to see if there were any new restaurants that have opened recently, looking for some place new to try.

I posted because first of all it was odd seeing 17 large marketing style photos of vodka as I paged down. Didn’t realize it was produced by someone local and didn’t realize the connection to T27 until reading further, people started to question the appropriateness. Then BAM Baygo gets all offended and starts calling out the mod. It was just so unexpected that I was sucked in. I had to look up who this guy was because it just seemed so weird for a normal person to react this way.

I’ll admit yesterday was a slow day and the more I thought about it the more absurd this drama seemed and I’m thinking, this moderator doesn’t need this ****e, the dude seems like he’s just running a fun little restaurant forum and now he’s being forced to defend himself. He took the private 1 on 1 route and Baygo tosses it out for public consumption. Childish, and a bit evil. It just kinda pushed my buttons and I decided to chime in - sorry if it piqued your spider-sense.

Yup, this is long-winded, as today is shaping up to be a bit slow as well ��
Never said you were an outsider I said why is it took you eight years to make your first post and this was an odd topic to pick it on especially over the years with other situation such as Covid, the speed limit and many other controversial topics.

Additionally unless you are actively reading this form and have seen a good portion of Baygo’s posts you have no idea what you’re talking about. He’s been an excellent contributor to this form and a fantastic advocate of local businesses in the area and I’m sorry I will defend him.

If you are on the site more often you would also know there are other businesses here that do promote themselves with no repercussions there’s obviously a double standard here but that’s fine I’ll use the form as I see fit.

Also as I said for the moderator to have favorites I think is unfair which is one of the reasons why I do not post that much anymore what are used to be an active member who posted.


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Never said you were an outsider I said why is it took you eight years to make your first post and this was an odd topic to pick it on especially over the years with other situation such as Covid, the speed limit and many other controversial topics.

Additionally unless you are actively reading this form and have seen a good portion of Baygo’s posts you have no idea what you’re talking about. He’s been an excellent contributor to this form and a fantastic advocate of local businesses in the area and I’m sorry I will defend him.

If you are on the site more often you would also know there are other businesses here that do promote themselves with no repercussions there’s obviously a double standard here but that’s fine I’ll use the form as I see fit.

Also as I said for the moderator to have favorites I think is unfair which is one of the reasons why I do not post that much anymore what are used to be an active member who posted.


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I’ll get back in my lane
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You have not upset me I have thicker skin than that. Just standing up for what I feel is fair.


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Hmmm, noticing how you have attacked users who have disagreed with you, kinda seems like you don’t have thick skin
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Do I need to have this argument?
Do I need to have this argument right now?
Do I need to win this argument?

More often than not I answer no to question one and move on. Sure makes my work and personal life smoother. Don’t get me wrong, this is not an avoidance method; when I answer yes to all three questions I do everything I can to win!

Do others follow something like this or is every argument necessary and worth having?
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Hmmm, noticing how you have attacked users who have disagreed with you, kinda seems like you don’t have thick skin
Attacking? No! Making an argument for my position absolutely. Don’t like my opinion or how I present my position then just keep scrolling, but you continue to engage.


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Attacking? No! Making an argument for my position absolutely. DonÂ’t like my opinion or how I present my position then just keep scrolling, but you continue to engage.

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I do continue to engage, since you basically told me that I had no right to have an opinion on this topic for the sole reason that I didn't engage enough, or at all, in the past. So here I am engaging. YOU called ME out, not the other way around and you now want me to submit to you.

So, you say "NO!" to the idea that you attack people who disagree with you, Here's a few quotes from you:

-- "You are such an angry nasty miserable excuse for a human being with a superiority complex.

-- "Wow your quick wit is astonishing you should perform stand up"

-- "You are an arrogant self centered obnoxious person. Typical of people like yourself, always resorting to name calling when they are frustrated and don’t get there way."

-- "Who might I ask are “we” ? You have no idea who I am and what I do for a living and I don’t need to justify myself to you or anybody else keep beating your drum and beating your drum and pushing your agenda on others because that’s what people like you do. If you don’t like other people‘s opinion all you do is scream louder and louder so you think that they will believe you and agree with you eventually but that’s not how life works. You sound like a two-year-old immature whiny infant"

-- "And if you think you are so smart look me up and you could see my education what I’ve done for a living and what I’ve accomplished in my life. My not a keyboard tough guy like you are"

-- "Stop forcing your agenda down my thought. I don’t need to justify my thoughts opinions research and observations to anyone but myself. I could care less about your opinion"

-- "In my opinion you are quite the arrogant know it all type of person I try
to avoid"

-- "FYI I would love to see your epidermist (sic) certificate" (???)

-- "You have no idea what I do for a living all my background I’m involved in many different industries from real estate to medical to manufacturing to construction. Additionally service industry clients..."

Joe, you keep inviting people to "look you up". You're a little man who just pokes and pokes at people. I know exactly who you are and what you do. Your company you ran with your bro was definitely very successful and I guess your tax gig is too, yet you take the the large & forgiven PPP loan. You say you like to stand up for what you believe is "right" and "fair", well so do I. If YOU dont like MY opinion or how I present it then YOU can keep scrolling but as you know, it takes 2 to engage and I think you just like to bully people and insult them until they ultimately go away.

Remember you chose come after me and are now annoyed that I'm not just cowering in fear because you decided that I have no right to express an option that is different from yours.

Other than that, you seem like a pretty solid human, as long as you are not disagreed with.
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I do continue to engage, since you basically told me that I had no right to have an opinion on this topic for the sole reason that I didn't engage enough, or at all, in the past. So here I am engaging. YOU called ME out, not the other way around and you now want me to submit to you.

So, you say "NO!" to the idea that you attack people who disagree with you, Here's a few quotes from you:

-- "You are such an angry nasty miserable excuse for a human being with a superiority complex.

-- "Wow your quick wit is astonishing you should perform stand up"

-- "You are an arrogant self centered obnoxious person. Typical of people like yourself, always resorting to name calling when they are frustrated and don’t get there way."

-- "Who might I ask are “we” ? You have no idea who I am and what I do for a living and I don’t need to justify myself to you or anybody else keep beating your drum and beating your drum and pushing your agenda on others because that’s what people like you do. If you don’t like other people‘s opinion all you do is scream louder and louder so you think that they will believe you and agree with you eventually but that’s not how life works. You sound like a two-year-old immature whiny infant"

-- "And if you think you are so smart look me up and you could see my education what I’ve done for a living and what I’ve accomplished in my life. My not a keyboard tough guy like you are"

-- "Stop forcing your agenda down my thought. I don’t need to justify my thoughts opinions research and observations to anyone but myself. I could care less about your opinion"

-- "In my opinion you are quite the arrogant know it all type of person I try
to avoid"

-- "FYI I would love to see your epidermist (sic) certificate" (???)

-- "You have no idea what I do for a living all my background I’m involved in many different industries from real estate to medical to manufacturing to construction. Additionally service industry clients..."

Joe, you keep inviting people to "look you up". You're a little man who just pokes and pokes at people. I know exactly who you are and what you do. Your company you ran with your bro was definitely very successful and I guess your tax gig is too, yet you take the the large & forgiven PPP loan. You say you like to stand up for what you believe is "right" and "fair", well so do I. If YOU dont like MY opinion or how I present it then YOU can keep scrolling but as you know, it takes 2 to engage and I think you just like to bully people and insult them until they ultimately go away.

Remember you chose come after me and are now annoyed that I'm not just cowering in fear because you decided that I have no right to express an option that is different from yours.

Other than that, you seem like a pretty solid human, as long as you are not disagreed with.
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I do continue to engage, since you basically told me that I had no right to have an opinion on this topic for the sole reason that I didn't engage enough, or at all, in the past. So here I am engaging. YOU called ME out, not the other way around and you now want me to submit to you.

So, you say "NO!" to the idea that you attack people who disagree with you, Here's a few quotes from you:

-- "You are such an angry nasty miserable excuse for a human being with a superiority complex.

-- "Wow your quick wit is astonishing you should perform stand up"

-- "You are an arrogant self centered obnoxious person. Typical of people like yourself, always resorting to name calling when they are frustrated and don’t get there way."

-- "Who might I ask are “we” ? You have no idea who I am and what I do for a living and I don’t need to justify myself to you or anybody else keep beating your drum and beating your drum and pushing your agenda on others because that’s what people like you do. If you don’t like other people‘s opinion all you do is scream louder and louder so you think that they will believe you and agree with you eventually but that’s not how life works. You sound like a two-year-old immature whiny infant"

-- "And if you think you are so smart look me up and you could see my education what I’ve done for a living and what I’ve accomplished in my life. My not a keyboard tough guy like you are"

-- "Stop forcing your agenda down my thought. I don’t need to justify my thoughts opinions research and observations to anyone but myself. I could care less about your opinion"

-- "In my opinion you are quite the arrogant know it all type of person I try
to avoid"

-- "FYI I would love to see your epidermist (sic) certificate" (???)

-- "You have no idea what I do for a living all my background I’m involved in many different industries from real estate to medical to manufacturing to construction. Additionally service industry clients..."

Joe, you keep inviting people to "look you up". You're a little man who just pokes and pokes at people. I know exactly who you are and what you do. Your company you ran with your bro was definitely very successful and I guess your tax gig is too, yet you take the the large & forgiven PPP loan. You say you like to stand up for what you believe is "right" and "fair", well so do I. If YOU dont like MY opinion or how I present it then YOU can keep scrolling but as you know, it takes 2 to engage and I think you just like to bully people and insult them until they ultimately go away.

Remember you chose come after me and are now annoyed that I'm not just cowering in fear because you decided that I have no right to express an option that is different from yours.

Other than that, you seem like a pretty solid human, as long as you are not disagreed with.
You keep poking the basket and I will not engage except to say get your facts straight I NEVER have taken a LARGE PPP loan that was forgiven. Please tell me the company and amount of this LARGE PPP.

I had taken 3 very small ones which I qualified for under the guidelines was approved and forgiven like many other company’s.

That great you know the business side of my life I have nothing to hide but you have no idea about my person or integrity and could give two “@&$s what you think.

It’s nice to know you have so much time on your hands to investigate my background.

Get a life will you.


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That great you know the business side of my life I have nothing to hide but you have no idea about my person or integrity and could give two “@&$s what you think.

It’s nice to know you have so much time on your hands to investigate my background.

Get a life will you.


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You keep poking the basket and I will not engage except to say get your facts straight I NEVER have taken a LARGE PPP loan that was forgiven. Please tell me the company and amount of this LARGE PPP.

I had taken 3 very small ones which I qualified for under the guidelines was approved and forgiven like many other company’s.

That great you know the business side of my life I have nothing to hide but you have no idea about my person or integrity and could give two “@&$s what you think.

It’s nice to know you have so much time on your hands to investigate my background.

Get a life will you.


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"Poking the basket" ??? Is that a term I should know?

For sure I brought up a business example, because you've invited people to "look you up". Are you inviting me to talk about your personal life? I'm not sure why you would want that.

You’ve not only falsely accused me of having an ulterior motive for my opinion but you have also maligned the mod of this forum with accusations of favoritism and unfairness yet you refuse to back up your accusations under the guise of “not dragging up old dirt” which is exactly what you yourself are doing.

Oddly you have requested that I NAME your LLCs and the loan amounts - why you would make that request, I have no idea, but sure, whatever, I'm here to serve

Prides Point Investments Llc $20,833 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Jan 10, 2022 Cross River Bank
Central Way Management Llc $20,832 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Oct 4, 2021 JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association
Lighthouse Court Management Llc $20,330 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Sep 29, 2021 JPMorgan Chase Bank
One under your actual name $19,617 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Jun 14, 2021 Franklin Savings Bank
Another one under your actual name $19,892 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Sept 28, 2021 Jpmorgan Chase Bank,

As you know, these total over $100,000 which you call "very small", sure, whatever you say

1 of them is for is Tax prep and the others "property management" with you as the OWNER and SOLE EMPLOYEE, all registered to your home address with you pocketing the entirety

This sum is in the top 30 of all loans given to Laconia businesses - all of the other top 30 have actual employees whose pay checks were being protected.

Call me crazy, but dude, this has a really fraudulent vibe to it.
Of course I'm not judging if these are actually above-board or not, that judgement is best referred to the the DOJ & the the SBA Inspector General Office

You requested & took money yet you live in a home worth more than at least 97% of other people living in Laconia and brush it off as 3 small loans, not cool.

And yes, IT IS nice to have time on my hands

Work smart not hard

Maybe stop making false accusations against the moderator and stop being a little online bully
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"Poking the basket" ??? Is that a term I should know?

For sure I brought up a business example, because you've invited people to "look you up". Are you inviting me to talk about your personal life? I'm not sure why you would want that.

You’ve not only falsely accused me of having an ulterior motive for my opinion but you have also maligned the mod of this forum with accusations of favoritism and unfairness yet you refuse to back up your accusations under the guise of “not dragging up old dirt” which is exactly what you yourself are doing.

Oddly you have requested that I NAME your LLCs and the loan amounts - why you would make that request, I have no idea, but sure, whatever, I'm here to serve

Prides Point Investments Llc $20,833 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Jan 10, 2022 Cross River Bank
Central Way Management Llc $20,832 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Oct 4, 2021 JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association
Lighthouse Court Management Llc $20,330 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Sep 29, 2021 JPMorgan Chase Bank
One under your actual name $19,617 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Jun 14, 2021 Franklin Savings Bank
Another one under your actual name $19,892 Laconia, NH Forgiven as of Sept 28, 2021 Jpmorgan Chase Bank,

As you know, these total over $100,000 which you call "very small", sure, whatever you say

1 of them is for is Tax prep and the others "property management" with you as the OWNER and SOLE EMPLOYEE, all registered to your home address with you pocketing the entirety

This sum is in the top 30 of all loans given to Laconia businesses - all of the other top 30 have actual employees whose pay checks were being protected.

Call me crazy, but dude, this has a really fraudulent vibe to it.
Of course I'm not judging if these are actually above-board or not, that judgement is best referred to the the DOJ & the the SBA Inspector General Office

You requested & took money yet you live in a home worth more than at least 97% of other people living in Laconia and brush it off as 3 small loans, not cool.

And yes, IT IS nice to have time on my hands

Work smart not hard

Maybe stop making false accusations against the moderator and stop being a little online bully

My businesses like many others have suffered significantly during the pandemic including giving many tenants rent relief by passing PPP money along to them so they can remain in business. I am an ethical professional how did tight by my clients and tenants that went through and are still going though a difficult period. That’s what these funds were meant for and that’s were they meant.

As stated I meet the guidelines for approval and forgiveness. As you can see I invited you to state the names because I have nothing to hide I have to regrets and happy I could help my clients and tenants.

Nice of you to look and accuse from taking information at face value.

Also I stand by my statement and I back Baygo and have not made any false accusations against the moderator. Maybe your opinion I did but I could careless. Look who is call who a desk chair bully.

Enjoy your angry jealous miserable life. Done engaging a nasty self righteous person like yourself


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Never said you were an outsider I said why is it took you eight years to make your first post and this was an odd topic to pick it on especially over the years with other situation such as Covid, the speed limit and many other controversial topics.

Additionally unless you are actively reading this form and have seen a good portion of Baygo’s posts you have no idea what you’re talking about. He’s been an excellent contributor to this form and a fantastic advocate of local businesses in the area and I’m sorry I will defend him.

If you are on the site more often you would also know there are other businesses here that do promote themselves with no repercussions there’s obviously a double standard here but that’s fine I’ll use the form as I see fit.

Also as I said for the moderator to have favorites I think is unfair which is one of the reasons why I do not post that much anymore what are used to be an active member who posted.


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Never said you were an outsider I said why is it took you eight years to make your first post and this was an odd topic to pick it on especially over the years with other situation such as Covid, the speed limit and many other controversial topics.

Additionally unless you are actively reading this form and have seen a good portion of Baygo’s posts you have no idea what you’re talking about. He’s been an excellent contributor to this form and a fantastic advocate of local businesses in the area and I’m sorry I will defend him.

If you are on the site more often you would also know there are other businesses here that do promote themselves with no repercussions there’s obviously a double standard here but that’s fine I’ll use the form as I see fit.

Also as I said for the moderator to have favorites I think is unfair which is one of the reasons why I do not post that much anymore what are used to be an active member who posted.


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This regular reader thinks Jazzy had it right. No business in recent memory has promoted itself with the frequency and energy of this Dancing Rabbit thread. If you have an example or two, please share before casting aspersions.

As I posted above, baygo was a good contributor, and I will miss him. But being a good contributor does not mean he should not be corrected when he violates norms. Obvious to those who have been reading consistently, he violated norms on promotion and then again with his farewell message.

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I have no idea who Baygo is, except from his posts I know he owns Tavern27 which hasn't been open since Covid, and apparently also a golf course beside it and has this Vodka. Not knowing him, when I think of him the restaurant posts are what I remember, not other things. I think this forum (Don) has been very generous to him and helped him promote his business. Samiam almost never posts about his restaurants- unless asked. Just sayin" I just don't think that's what this forum is supposed to be about. I can understand him being upset as he probably didn't realize how he was coming across and he is probably a super guy. I have been upset a few times as I said for going of topic when I didn't feel I did, but I didn't take my marbles and go home. Yet.
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I also do not know baygo or Don.
Don has been running the Winnepesaukee forum for over 20 years now and we should be very grateful for everything that he does and thank him for giving us this wonderful outlet of information.
baygo has been a welcome and contributing member and I have enjoyed reading his posts. But, baygo took a simple private message request to tone it down a bit and made it into a public debate where people are now choosing sides. So uncool!

The bottom line is that it is Don’s forum and his rules.
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I also do not know baygo or Don.

Don has been running the Winnepesaukee forum for over 20 years now and we should be very grateful for everything that he does and thank him for giving us this wonderful outlet of information.

baygo has been a welcome and contributing member and I have enjoyed reading his posts. But, baygo took a simple private message request to tone it down a bit and made it into a public debate where people are now choosing sides. So uncool!

The bottom line is that it is Don’s forum and his rules.
That’s fair but it would be nice if the rules were applied consistently.


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Now I have two questions: who are the favorites and what rules aren't applied consistently?

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Please really? I’ve been a member here a long time and so have you we both know who and when. Stop playing the naive by stander. I’m not going to waste my time regurgitating the past.


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No games here, I'm just not interpreting members being asked to tone things down as playing favorites or having different rules.

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Hey, doesn't every teacher have favorites, like it or not?
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Though I try to be 100% objective, I think it's unavoidable. Maybe that's what's happening here?!

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Oblivious to background conversations the moderator may have with various forum members, I personally don’t have an issue with the administration of this site. The past couple of years have driven a number of ranting threads ranging from that nasty 5-letter word beginning with “C”, and political opinions covering a wide range of topics. Add onto that, topics posted to forums that disregard the FAQ’s https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/faq.php must make the moderators role uniquely frustrating. I vote to give the admin a bit more courtesy. Truth social, Twitter and Facebook are always there as an option.
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So your answer to the question, that has been asked several times, is to not answer it and simply make more accusations with no backup? Seems a little or a lot Passive Aggressive!. If you have something to say, please say it, don't make accusations about other forum members or instances of favoritism when you refuse to explain exactly what your accusations are about.
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So your answer to the question, that has been asked several times, is to not answer it and simply make more accusations with no backup? Seems a little or a lot Passive Aggressive!. If you have something to say, please say it, don't make accusations about other forum members or instances of favoritism when you refuse to explain exactly what your accusations are about.
Nope won’t do it. No need to drag up old dirt it won’t solve anything. Long time members if they are true to themselves and this forum have seen it and it’s my opinion Baygo is being unfairly maligned. You don’t like my opinion on past posts or Baygo that’s your choice.


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I think they generally are except in the biased opinions of others. I don't mean that in an accusatory way - we all have bias.

Imagine for a minute that you are running this site. Every day there are conflicting opinions and, at times, downright nasty commentary. As the moderator, you have your goal of what the forum will represent. That's your bias. At some point, things go too far down the rabbit hole (in your opinion which is your right) and threaten your whole reason for running the site. You are patient but eventually you need to raise a flag. What is wrong with that?

In this case, it sounds like a rightful and gentle request was made by the moderator that got blown out of proportion and instead of moving on, a debate ensues accusing the moderator of this and Baygo of that.

The moderator had a right to ask for some restraint and Baygo had a right to leave. Neither of them were wrong in taking the actions they did and, at the end of the day, your and my or any other forum reader's bias, perceived or otherwise, don't matter. That's when it's time to move on instead of forever pushing one's agenda.

Here's the main point of my post. I've been a reader since 2015. It seems the constant discourse has significantly increased on many topics over the last few years. How long do you think it will be before our Moderator chooses to throw in the towel?
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i am not sure why people cant let this go. Decision was made and Don can make the easiest decision which is not waste his time and money keeping this forum going .
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I think they generally are except in the biased opinions of others. I don't mean that in an accusatory way - we all have bias.

Imagine for a minute that you are running this site. Every day there are conflicting opinions and, at times, downright nasty commentary. As the moderator, you have your goal of what the forum will represent. That's your bias. At some point, things go too far down the rabbit hole (in your opinion which is your right) and threaten your whole reason for running the site. You are patient but eventually you need to raise a flag. What is wrong with that?

In this case, it sounds like a rightful and gentle request was made by the moderator that got blown out of proportion and instead of moving on, a debate ensues accusing the moderator of this and Baygo of that.

The moderator had a right to ask for some restraint and Baygo had a right to leave. Neither of them were wrong in taking the actions they did and, at the end of the day, your and my or any other forum reader's bias, perceived or otherwise, don't matter. That's when it's time to move on instead of forever pushing one's agenda.

Here's the main point of my post. I've been a reader since 2015. It seems the constant discourse has significantly increased on many topics over the last few years. How long do you think it will be before our Moderator chooses to throw in the towel?

What has so Drastically changed since 2015, that has changed everyone? I agree, people are much more angry then they used to be, and it's quite obvious.
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