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Old 05-07-2022, 04:34 PM   #1
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Also, the Great Resignation.

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Here's a great piece with data on the great resignation being over. It gets to Mr V's question and my response--people are supporting themselves with better jobs as the economy improves, and we're missing a lot of immigrants

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/o...mployment.html
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Here's a great piece with data on the great resignation being over. It gets to Mr V's question and my response--people are supporting themselves with better jobs as the economy improves, and we're missing a lot of immigrants

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/o...mployment.html
That's behind a pay wall, but didn't you just say what I suggested? That "people are supporting themselves with better jobs" because they left lower-paying ones? I'm definitely not suggesting that immigrant labor isn't a thing, but I know a lot of people who fit into the "Great Resignation" thing who left part-time or low(er) paying jobs because it was a break-even proposition with daycare, etc.

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Where does someone go for a better job who just turned 16?

Most people, at 16, are (or should be) getting their first jobs. They're usually not making career decisions and moving up.

At 16, I was working in a restaurant washing dishes. At 17, I moved up to busboy. I liked the money and money was what motivated me. What's not motivating 16 yr. olds?

I have an 18 yr. old nephew who has no intentions of ever working. He keeps asking me if I'm leaving all my stuff to him when I pass on. I think he's looking forward to, and relying on, that a bit too much. Especially since I've told him I plan on having nothing when I die except a house he can never afford to own... and selling it, and splitting the proceeds with others...Yup, sorry, ain't gonna be enough left for him to make it.
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That's behind a pay wall, but didn't you just say what I suggested? That "people are supporting themselves with better jobs" because they left lower-paying ones? I'm definitely not suggesting that immigrant labor isn't a thing, but I know a lot of people who fit into the "Great Resignation" thing who left part-time or low(er) paying jobs because it was a break-even proposition with daycare, etc.

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Sadly, data charts in the article will not copy.

Yes, we agree that people are supporting themselves with better jobs, and I also know underemployed low wage people who would not have been underemployed years ago. But more broadly for the economy as a whole, the Great Resignation of people leaving the work altogether is gone. Workforce participation adjusted for demographics, etc is back to normal.

The labor shortage today is not a Great Resignation (of people checking out), it is lack of immigration, demographics, and in certain areas such as ours, a tough housing shortage.
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Sadly, data charts in the article will not copy.

Yes, we agree that people are supporting themselves with better jobs, and I also know underemployed low wage people who would not have been underemployed years ago. But more broadly for the economy as a whole, the Great Resignation of people leaving the work altogether is gone. Workforce participation adjusted for demographics, etc is back to normal.

The labor shortage today is not a Great Resignation (of people checking out), it is lack of immigration, demographics, and in certain areas such as ours, a tough housing shortage.
I just heard tonight that yesterday's report showed 3.6% unemployment, historically low, which might support your comments. In any case, it's not cool.

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Aside from all this talk about economics, employment stats etc.

Breakfast this morning at the VK was outstanding! I arrived to an (almost) empty parking lot at 6:45am... fishing an 8am bass tournament out of Harilla Landing. Thought it might be closed... but open it was! Sat at the breakfast bar and was served coffee immediate by the (always) outstanding staff.

But, no menu! I found out food service started at 7:00am. At 7:00 and 12 seconds my order was taken... Biscuits, Sausage Gravy, scrambled eggs and homefries (extra homefries please!). Awesome!

In these hard times of getting good help... the VK somehow hires the best! Kudos to those servers.. and the owners/management team for making the VK the excellent experience!

Best of luck....

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The WSJ today had an article that teen unemployment was down to a pre pandemic rate of 10%. are there no teens in the lakes region that want to work?
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Old 05-08-2022, 08:19 AM   #8
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The WSJ today had an article that teen unemployment was down to a pre pandemic rate of 10%. are there no teens in the lakes region that want to work?
Many of the teens DO work . There just are not that many in the area to take the jobs. Ageing population in the lakes region . There are better paying and more interesting jobs available then washing dishes at the VK .
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Many of the teens DO work . There just are not that many in the area to take the jobs. Ageing population in the lakes region . There are better paying and more interesting jobs available then washing dishes at the VK .
Oh, c'mon Billy Bob.....what could be better.? It's a career opportunity
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I don't think it's changed much. Most businesses still need help. You may just have happened to see one that at the time, is full staffed. It's not just Samiam that can't get enough workers.
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