Moultonborough Budget and Warrants town Meeting next week Tuesday and Saturday

Sue Doe-Nym · 05-19-2022, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheProfessor

THEY are waiting for all of the older voters to die.

Then the younger voters can get their Shangri La all inclusive fantasy, dancing, running, swimming, party, complex.

When this older voter dies, they are welcome to all of those things, a total wonderland. However, I hope that someone can make them do the math, and cause an AHA! moment, that this monumental structure is going to cost millions to operate, over and above the initial cost…..and their property taxes will rise significantly. When it comes to common sense and math, their minds are closed.

tummyman · 05-20-2022, 09:30 AM

As stated by others, cost to run could be in the millions and I speculate might be more than 10% of the current town budget. Make no mistake....a "want" can quickly be a "need" with the right spin and there is lots of spin going on. We heard all about the "need" for the HUB but the proponents couldn't get a majority of voters to approve setting aside "free" money as bait to get contributions.

Next year the HUB group will press for a warrant article for their "need". I am sick of only having one option at town meeting. The solution is simple....the BOS needs to "do their job" and create a warrant article next year for a full renovation of the existing Lions facility and stop the "its for the Meals on Wheels". They are just a tenant....there are many more who can and do use the facility. Use the existing plans to renovate the facility that were created 3 years ago by an engineering firm. Use those plans and go out for a FIRM quotation before town meeting.

Next, offer the "HUB" group an option to lease for 99 years at $1 / year the needed ground space at the Lions site for a separate stand alone facility that has the gym and aquatics center that they purport has a large "need" in the community. Let those who see this "need" fund the construction, seek donations, and assume the annual operating costs...NOT THE TOWN.

It is time for the BOS to exert leadership and not be part of the "spin". We need to push them to dust off the old plans and get a firm bid...the sooner the better and BEFORE the town taxpayers get swamped with huge annual bond paybacks and equally large and ongoing annual operating costs for a "want" that has been spun as a "need".

phoenix · 05-20-2022, 08:10 PM

I never know where the bos stands maybe no where

Sue Doe-Nym · 05-20-2022, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix

I never know where the bos stands maybe no where

I believe that they are more for it than against it. Chuck McGee, who did not run again, is against it.Those who are for it think that this will bring the town together! Is that ridiculous, or what?

John Mercier · 05-20-2022, 10:06 PM

The right project might... this might just not be it.

When Reagan and Bush adopted the campaign slogan ''Let's make America great again''... they were more focused on the Eisenhower/Kennedy years. They just didn't have the introvert though process of Ike, and were more like the extroverted Kennedy.

Even to this day... we seem to quest for the unite of the Eisenhower years. But the conditions to accomplish that, I don't think anyone has actually grasped.

05-20-2022, 09:30 AM	#2
tummyman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 843 Thanks: 260 Thanked 687 Times in 244 Posts	As stated by others, cost to run could be in the millions and I speculate might be more than 10% of the current town budget. Make no mistake....a "want" can quickly be a "need" with the right spin and there is lots of spin going on. We heard all about the "need" for the HUB but the proponents couldn't get a majority of voters to approve setting aside "free" money as bait to get contributions. Next year the HUB group will press for a warrant article for their "need". I am sick of only having one option at town meeting. The solution is simple....the BOS needs to "do their job" and create a warrant article next year for a full renovation of the existing Lions facility and stop the "its for the Meals on Wheels". They are just a tenant....there are many more who can and do use the facility. Use the existing plans to renovate the facility that were created 3 years ago by an engineering firm. Use those plans and go out for a FIRM quotation before town meeting. Next, offer the "HUB" group an option to lease for 99 years at $1 / year the needed ground space at the Lions site for a separate stand alone facility that has the gym and aquatics center that they purport has a large "need" in the community. Let those who see this "need" fund the construction, seek donations, and assume the annual operating costs...NOT THE TOWN. It is time for the BOS to exert leadership and not be part of the "spin". We need to push them to dust off the old plans and get a firm bid...the sooner the better and BEFORE the town taxpayers get swamped with huge annual bond paybacks and equally large and ongoing annual operating costs for a "want" that has been spun as a "need". Last edited by tummyman; 05-20-2022 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Typo

05-20-2022, 08:10 PM	#3
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,560 Thanks: 61 Thanked 276 Times in 194 Posts	I never know where the bos stands maybe no where __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

05-20-2022, 10:06 PM	#5
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,479 Thanks: 3 Thanked 611 Times in 505 Posts	The right project might... this might just not be it. When Reagan and Bush adopted the campaign slogan ''Let's make America great again''... they were more focused on the Eisenhower/Kennedy years. They just didn't have the introvert though process of Ike, and were more like the extroverted Kennedy. Even to this day... we seem to quest for the unite of the Eisenhower years. But the conditions to accomplish that, I don't think anyone has actually grasped.