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Old 06-27-2022, 04:14 PM   #1
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Could you elaborate on the situation you have seen that didn't allow people to use their own home? I find this extreme and am sure it will be challenged. I have followed this on here and also on the Tuftonboro Forums. I have watched the two sides fight, but there must be something that happened that we don't know about .
What I have seen in the past, is similar to what is going on here..I can't remember the exact name of the order, but is basically done in cases of harassment, prior to a day in court.....What it instructs the police to do is arrest the defendant, if the plaintiff places additional calls to the police department for continued harassment.

Think of it as a Restraining order on drugs.... The police no longer have a choice, to talk to the parties, and asked the defendant to simply leave... if they are called and showup, and the defendant is in the area, be it on their own property on not, they are to be arrested....

Now to be sure, beyond normal harassment the plaintiff has to show that there is a credible sense of endangerment, in the situation to get something like this put in place.... Additionally, this drives a court date in front of a judge which is not optional, unlike a restraining order, which once served only comes back to court, if the defendant wishes to challenge it.
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What I have seen in the past, is similar to what is going on here..I can't remember the exact name of the order, but is basically done in cases of harassment, prior to a day in court.....What it instructs the police to do is arrest the defendant, if the plaintiff places additional calls to the police department for continued harassment.

Think of it as a Restraining order on drugs.... The police no longer have a choice, to talk to the parties, and asked the defendant to simply leave... if they are called and showup, and the defendant is in the area, be it on their own property on not, they are to be arrested....

Now to be sure, beyond normal harassment the plaintiff has to show that there is a credible sense of endangerment, in the situation to get something like this put in place.... Additionally, this drives a court date in front of a judge which is not optional, unlike a restraining order, which once served only comes back to court, if the defendant wishes to challenge it.
I have to agree there needs to be "a credible sense of endangerment" above and beyond to put this in place.
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I have to agree there needs to be "a credible sense of endangerment" above and beyond to put this in place.
"Harassment" does not require the infliction of "a credible sense of danger."

The statute in question:
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-ham...section-644-4/

Threats are NOT required; it's enough to annoy or alarm.
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"Harassment" does not require the infliction of "a credible sense of danger."

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https://law.justia.com/codes/new-ham...section-644-4/

Threats are NOT required; it's enough to annoy or alarm.
I am just saying is harassment enough to ban one from one's home? I am shocked by this. I am not taking sides, but I can't help but wonder what the real story is.

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I am just saying is harassment enough to ban one from one's home? I am shocked by this. I am taking sides, but I can't help but wonder what the real story is.
As I read the thread, it isn't Randy Owen's home. Regardless, the judge can do what he feels is appropriate for safety.
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I am just saying is harassment enough to ban one from one's home? I am shocked by this. I am not taking sides, but I can't help but wonder what the real story is.
It's not his home, its owned by a relative. I find it odd that he tried to lay claim to it all along. The guy seems mentally not well...None of this should ever have occurred.
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It's not his home, its owned by a relative. I find it odd that he tried to lay claim to it all along. The guy seems mentally not well...None of this should ever have occurred.
I'm not positive... but I believe he WAS the owner and recently put it in Cody's name for pending legal ramifications...

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I'm not positive... but I believe he WAS the owner and recently put it in Cody's name for pending legal ramifications...

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Just did a little research... nothing concrete, but it would seem that Randy and his nephew bought the Farm Island property.... Randy never claimed to solely own the property... Given all the legal issues, it would not surprise me to hear, that it was transferred solely to Cody..

Additionally my research also found a statement that seem to indicate that Randy had be squabbling with Camp Belknap prior to the farm Island purchse... so it is possible they own additional property close by...
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Just did a little research... nothing concrete, but it would seem that Randy and his nephew bought the Farm Island property.... Randy never claimed to solely own the property... Given all the legal issues, it would not surprise me to hear, that it was transferred solely to Cody..

Additionally my research also found a statement that seem to indicate that Randy had be squabbling with Camp Belknap prior to the farm Island purchse... so it is possible they own additional property close by...
The family has property on Cow island also….

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