161-mph, Route 93-north, Ashland, NH; orange Corvette

[TiltonBB]

Hope he enjoyed the ride while he had it! He won't have a license for a while so it may be time to sell!

https://www.boston25news.com/news/lo...EXOZ64CDB3RNU/

[ITD]

He should lose his license, he is a dirtbag driving that fast on a public road.

[XCR-700]

Looks to me like he got away with it and got turned loose with nothing more than a court date, well for now anyway.

I would have expected the car impounded, and a big fine to start and a hefty bail,,,

Just goes to show you never know how the legal system will respond.

[TheTimeTraveler]

I believe that the speed of 161 mph would be considered "reckless driving". As such it could end up being not only expensive but very inconvenient for the driver.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by TheTimeTraveler

I believe that the speed of 161 mph would be considered "reckless driving". As such it could end up being not only expensive but very inconvenient for the driver.

So far it looks like he got a short time out and released,,,

One might reasonable expect him to be held for something like this until he was in front of a judge.

Guess some people have better luck than others, or maybe better connections,,,

[ITD]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

So far it looks like he got a short time out and released,,,

One might reasonable expect him to be held for something like this until he was in front of a judge.

Guess some people have better luck than others, or maybe better connections,,,

I suspect if he had been drinking he would have been locked up. He probably will lose his license for a while and get fined.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by ITD

I suspect if he had been drinking he would have been locked up. He probably will lose his license for a while and get fined.

Agreed!

Not sure how this is a lessor offense,,,

[ITD]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Agreed!

Not sure how this is a lessor offense,,,

It's speeding, reckless and dumb, but probably less dangerous to the public than driving drunk. Still, very dangerous, even a corvette can't out run the laws of physics. One poor slob, looks back, sees this moron a half mile back, changes lanes and gets demolished. Stupid thing to do, seems to be more of it now days.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by ITD

It's speeding, reckless and dumb, but probably less dangerous to the public than driving drunk. .

Are you kidding???

At 161 MPH on NH roadways, thats worse than any drunk driver!

At that speed, you could run into unexpected traffic and wipe out multiple cars, where as most drunk drivers have a hard time getting up to normal speed and tend to have lower speed accidents.

I am not in any way trying to downplay the impact of drunk driving, but going 160+ MPH on NH roads is insane. This guy should lose his license automatically and for at least as long as someone convicted of drunk driving.

We have all been conditioned to 80+ MPH on our interstate highways and you may well see someone even doing 100 MPH on occasion for a very short burst, but as a former racer I can tell you with no doubt in my mind that over 125 MPH is a game changer, and again over 150 MPH is a whole different realm. If he had hit a minivan filled with a family, not likely anyone would survive. And no telling just how many cars you could destroy at that speed.

This offense is much worse than any average drunk driver and should have a greater punishment.

There are plenty of places elsewhere you can do what he was doing, but NH highways are not one of them.

Even if he had enough control to pass someone at that speed (and thats questionable) he probably would have scared them so bad, it would not surprise me to see them crash without ever having made contact.

This is a very bad situation and the system needs to make an example of him.

[ITD]

Originally Posted by XCR-700

Are you kidding???

At 161 MPH on NH roadways, thats worse than any drunk driver!

At that speed, you could run into unexpected traffic and wipe out multiple cars, where as most drunk drivers have a hard time getting up to normal speed and tend to have lower speed accidents.

I am not in any way trying to downplay the impact of drunk driving, but going 160+ MPH on NH roads is insane. This guy should lose his license automatically and for at least as long as someone convicted of drunk driving.

We have all been conditioned to 80+ MPH on our interstate highways and you may well see someone even doing 100 MPH on occasion for a very short burst, but as a former racer I can tell you with no doubt in my mind that over 125 MPH is a game changer, and again over 150 MPH is a whole different realm. If he had hit a minivan filled with a family, not likely anyone would survive. And no telling just how many cars you could destroy at that speed.

This offense is much worse than any average drunk driver and should have a greater punishment.

There are plenty of places elsewhere you can do what he was doing, but NH highways are not one of them.

Even if he had enough control to pass someone at that speed (and thats questionable) he probably would have scared them so bad, it would not surprise me to see them crash without ever having made contact.

This is a very bad situation and the system needs to make an example of him.

Once again XCR, we disagree. I'm fine with him being charged, fined, whatever, but what he did, while a violation of trust and decency, is bad. Any moron who gets into a vehicle and drives drunk is much worse. Much worse.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by ITD

Once again XCR, we disagree. I'm fine with him being charged, fined, whatever, but what he did, while a violation of trust and decency, is bad. Any moron who gets into a vehicle and drives drunk is much worse. Much worse.

We will have to agree to disagree.

What he did is a exceedingly reckless and a blatant disregard for anyone elses safety, and the results of any accident at that speed would horrifying.

I can tell you if faced with the choice of having him on the highway with me or some drunk driver, either would be a bad situation, but I'll take the drunk driver ANY day. Not much chance of surviving a collision with a 160+ MPH vehicle.

If you have ever seen the crashes on the German autobahn, all thats left is a burned out circle where the crash scene occurred. Its nasty and tragic. And thats on roads designed for travel at such speeds, NH roads are NOT designed for such speeds,,,

Again, we are each entitled to our opinions, but mine is pretty solid on this, and I am a passionate performance car enthusiast and former auto racer. So I love these cars, just not driving that fast on public roads shared with families in regular vehicles.

ATB

[garysanfran]

ITD & XCR...Thought I'd put the two of you together on this...

Imagine driving drunk at 161 mph?

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

ITD & XCR...Thought I'd put the two of you together on this...

Imagine driving drunk at 161 mph?

I think the drunk would have to be passed out and foot just pressed on the pedal, as most struggle to get up to speed,,,

[ITD]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

ITD & XCR...Thought I'd put the two of you together on this...

Imagine driving drunk at 161 mph?

I think that's how many drunks get caught, maybe not 161, but speeding still.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by ITD

I think that's how many drunks get caught, maybe not 161, but speeding still.

Funny, I was told it was the opposite, that they often get stopped for not keeping up with traffic/or driving slower than the posted speed for no apparent reason. Then thrown some swerving and other erratic maneuvers just to keep it interesting.

But then like most things I'm sure it varies.

[jbolty]

Originally Posted by garysanfran

ITD & XCR...Thought I'd put the two of you together on this...

Imagine driving drunk at 161 mph?

get home sooner, so less chance of an accident? drunk logic

[John Mercier]

I think the minimum-to-minimum punishment is on about 30 days loss of license difference. Of course, the difference between 100 mph and 161 mph may mean the minimum is not on the table.

[BroadHopper]

I travel through Connecticut often. Seems like they aren't serious about stopping speeders. I travel 70 mph down 91 and cars are whizzing by at twice the speed! The back roads to Lime Rock is insane! Bimmers, AMGs, and RS etc are blazing! Glad we are giving this guy a lesson. We may live free but safely!

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

I travel through Connecticut often. Seems like they aren't serious about stopping speeders. I travel 70 mph down 91 and cars are whizzing by at twice the speed! The back roads to Lime Rock is insane! Bimmers, AMGs, and RS etc are blazing! Glad we are giving this guy a lesson. We may live free but safely!

I see vehicles at 80-90 on 3 every day I commute, but that is a HUGE difference between 161.

I'm with XCR on this one—161mph is in "I don't care if I kill anyone territory," and he should be anilhated by the law.

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[SAMIAM]

Most people that own performance cars know how to operate them.I'll take a 160mph car any time over a drunk driver.
He probably saw some empty highway and just wanted to have a little fun and ran into a speed trap to his bad luck.I really doubt if he was weaving in and out of traffic at that speed.

[XCR-700]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Most people that own performance cars know how to operate them.

Not in the real world, only in their mind. Having spent most of my career in the automotive industry and working for the US DOT, I can tell you with utmost confidence most people who buy off the shelf performance cars like Corvettes are NOT trained performance car drivers, they just have big egos and good credit. Now ego and confidence will carry you a long way, but once you break 125 MPH, its a different story and the same for 150 MPH, this is not safe territory for anyone who does not have lots of experience. And even for experienced performance car drivers, NH highways are not suited for such speed!

No 40 MPH accident with a drunk driver will ever compare to the total devastation that you will see when a car doing 160 MPH hits anything, and if its another car I assure you no one will survive! The car parts will be swept up and the body parts that can be recovered will be scraped into small bags. It is a horrifying sight to see. And for what purpose, literally a moments worth of thrill,,, Ok well then take a trip to Bonneville or your local dragstrip, but keep off public roads.

People were up in arms over going more than 50 MPH on Winnipesaukee, thats a Sunday drive by comparison to 161 MPH on RT 93,,,

I'm guessing most that are saying they are not too concerned about doing 161 MPH on RT 93 have never really been in a car that very high speeds and or seen the results of an accident on a public road at such speeds, or if so I am truly bewildered by the acceptance of this.

Go figure,,,

[fatlazyless]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Most people that own performance cars know how to operate them.I'll take a 160mph car any time over a drunk driver.
He probably saw some empty highway and just wanted to have a little fun and ran into a speed trap to his bad luck.I really doubt if he was weaving in and out of traffic at that speed.

In a case like this, the judge has some choice with the sentence punishment and will look at the past history record on the defendant.

Like, is this his first offense or his tenth offense, or what ..... exactly?

We here simply do not know, but the defendant, the prosecutor, the defense attorney, the judge, a jury, and the police ..... they all will know about a defendant's past history.

[brk-lnt]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

Most people that own performance cars know how to operate them.

IMO, it is the exact opposite. There are endless crash reels on Youtube of bad exits from Cars-n-coffee events, just as one example. High performance Mustang crashes are practically a meme now.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by ITD

He should lose his license, he is a dirtbag driving that fast on a public road.

Yesterday, a new record for a public road:

203-MPH

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...y-highway-die/

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by ApS

Yesterday, a new record for a public road:

203-MPH

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...y-highway-die/

The article says the car is CAPABLE of 203 mph, not that s/he (driver not identified in linked article) was driving that fast.

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[ApS]

Originally Posted by thinkxingu

The article says the car is CAPABLE of 203 mph, not that s/he (driver not identified in linked article) was driving that fast.

Another source reports only 185-MPH, so 203-MPH may not be a record after all.

That crash was broadcast the same day on iHeart radio WMAL-FM. (Where I listen to domestic news--delivered with humor--on the Chris Plante Show).

That report suggested (to me, anyway) that investigators had determined the car's speed from its on-board computer--so a 203-MPH speed could be correct.

The sedan has 580-HP--driving in the HOV lane--and was stolen. Police claim there was only one occupant, but suppose the passenger was not wearing his seatbelt, and has not yet been located?

[BroadHopper]

Here's an interesting read.

https://bikehike.org/what-is-the-ave...-the-autobahn/

268 mph before crashing is unreal!

Also, the lowest accident rate is on an unlimited highway. I do know the Germans are very respectable drivers.

The Isle of Man also has no speed limits on 2 lanes!

[Poor Richard]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Here's an interesting read.

https://bikehike.org/what-is-the-ave...-the-autobahn/

268 mph before crashing is unreal!

The wording in that specific section of the article isn't correct.

Rudolf Caracciola successfully set an average speed of 268 mph without incident. The gentleman who attempted to break Caracciola's speed record, Bernd Rosemeyer, is the one who crashed (at 250 mph) and subsequently died.

[LoveLakeLife]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Here's an interesting read.

https://bikehike.org/what-is-the-ave...-the-autobahn/

268 mph before crashing is unreal!

Also, the lowest accident rate is on an unlimited highway. I do know the Germans are very respectable drivers.

The Isle of Man also has no speed limits on 2 lanes!

No speed limit on Isle of Pines either.


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[ApS]

Originally Posted by LoveLakeLife

No speed limit on Isle of Pines either.

I was guessing you didn't mean Cuba, so I looked up Isle of Pines at Google.

WOW is all can say about New Caledonia. A little hard to get to, but it's on my bucket list. Any roads at all?

Factoid: Early in WWII, New Caledonia was approached by U.S. Army brass to bring troops and provisions to fight Imperial Japan. The Governor refused, but a day later, the beginning of a 50,000 Allied troop deployment began unloading their ships!

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

Here's an interesting read.

https://bikehike.org/what-is-the-ave...-the-autobahn/

268 mph before crashing is unreal!

Also, the lowest accident rate is on an unlimited highway. I do know the Germans are very respectable drivers.

The Isle of Man also has no speed limits on 2 lanes!

I watched one of Isle of Man's infamous motorcycle races on YouTube. Since its inception, 265 bikers have died on the course!

Fatalities are expected!

One racer couldn't make a curve and sailed through the air downhill until he was just a dot--landing perhaps a half-mile from the roadway he'd just left.

'Guessing he was one of the survivors, as he wasn't mentioned again.