Black Bear--Named "Baby"

SailinAway · 09-22-2022, 10:58 PM

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Another thing is that we hear over and over to take bird feeders in in the summer. The birds need to learn to find their own food and the feeders draw the wild animals. They say they take them in at night. Really? Do they not realize the seeds fall on the ground? Everywhere I have heard of a bear breaking into somebody's garbage or are on their porch, there is a bird feeder near by.

Um . . . you talkin' to me about the bird feeder? OK, in my defense, I learned from this incident. And in the second photo he was just trying to get a better look at the thermometer.

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tis · 09-23-2022, 05:16 AM

Sailin, yes YOU and the thousands of others that don't listen. I don't always agree with what the powers that be tell us we should do, but on this one I am with them. Feeders not only make birds dependent, they draw the bears to populated areas.

thinkxingu · 09-23-2022, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Sailin, yes YOU and the thousands of others that don't listen. I don't always agree with what the powers that be tell us we should do, but on this one I am with them. Feeders not only make birds dependent, they draw the bears to populated areas.

Yeah, but look at that cutie patootie! Makes me wanna go up and boop him on the snoot.

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tis · 09-23-2022, 07:42 AM

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Yeah, but look at that cutie patootie! Makes me wanna go up and boop him on the snoot.

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Go right ahead. And let me know what happens if you're around to tell.

winni83 · 09-23-2022, 03:37 PM

While attacks by black bears may be rare, the US National Park Service has this advice:

“Black Bears: If you are attacked by a black bear, DO NOT PLAY DEAD. Try to escape to a secure place such as a car or building. If escape is not possible, try to ﬁght back using any object available. Concentrate your kicks and blows on the bear's face and muzzle.”

This is in contrast to its advice about attacks by grizzly or brown bears, which in the first instance is to play dead and if that fails, then fight back.
It seems that if you experience a rare black bear attack, it is likely that the bear intends to eat you or at least do grave bodily harm.

There are times when the conventional wisdom about making yourself known to the black bear, raising your arms, shouting, etc. do not work. Several years ago while deer hunting on an old logging road, I was charged by a very large black bear and did all of the things that conventional wisdom recommends, to no avail. The bear just kept on coming at me and there were no cubs in the area. At about 200 feet away from me I put a rifle round in the dirt to its rear, with a second shot ready to hit it. Thankfully that was not necessary and the bear and I parted company. It was close enough that I did not want to wait and see if it was a bluff charge.

FlyingScot · 09-23-2022, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by winni83

While attacks by black bears may be rare, the US National Park Service has this advice:

“Black Bears: If you are attacked by a black bear, DO NOT PLAY DEAD. Try to escape to a secure place such as a car or building. If escape is not possible, try to ﬁght back using any object available. Concentrate your kicks and blows on the bear's face and muzzle.”

This is in contrast to its advice about attacks by grizzly or brown bears, which in the first instance is to play dead and if that fails, then fight back.
It seems that if you experience a rare black bear attack, it is likely that the bear intends to eat you or at least do grave bodily harm.

There are times when the conventional wisdom about making yourself known to the black bear, raising your arms, shouting, etc. do not work. Several years ago while deer hunting on an old logging road, I was charged by a very large black bear and did all of the things that conventional wisdom recommends, to no avail. The bear just kept on coming at me and there were no cubs in the area. At about 200 feet away from me I put a rifle round in the dirt to its rear, with a second shot ready to hit it. Thankfully that was not necessary and the bear and I parted company. It was close enough that I did not want to wait and see if it was a bluff charge.

Very interesting. I don't say this often, but a very good time to be armed! (haha) A friend of mine is a bow and arrow hunter for deer, but always brings a handgun in case of bear.

winni83 · 09-23-2022, 09:25 PM

FlyingScot

Your friend is a smart hunter for sure. Although the effective range of a hand gun is considerably less than a 30.06😎

hilltopper · 09-24-2022, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Very interesting. I don't say this often, but a very good time to be armed! (haha) A friend of mine is a bow and arrow hunter for deer, but always brings a handgun in case of bear.

Is it legal in NH to carry a handgun when bow hunting?

winni83 · 09-24-2022, 08:41 PM

It appears that carrying a firearm while hunting with a bow and arrow pursuant to an archery license is permitted, but of course the firearm cannot be used to take game permitted under the archery license. See section below in bold.

208:5 Bow and Arrow. –
I. The executive director shall set the fee pursuant to RSA 206:10, I, for issuance of archery licenses for the following categories: residents 16 years of age or older and nonresidents 16 years of age or older.
II. The licensee shall be entitled to hunt wildlife with bow and arrow during the open season, subject to the restrictions of this title.
III. The licensee shall be entitled to hunt deer during the special archery season established by the executive director, after consultation with the commission, pursuant to RSA 208:2 throughout the state and in Bear Brook Refuge.
IV. The licensee shall be entitled to take one deer under the archery license and additional deer under the archery license as determined by the executive director in accordance with RSA 208:5-b.

V. The licensee shall be entitled to carry firearms while hunting under the provisions of this section, unless such licensee is prohibited by state or federal law from carrying a firearm.

VI. A resident or nonresident person under 16 years of age shall not take wildlife with a bow and arrow unless said person is accompanied by a properly licensed person who is 18 years of age or older.
VII. A resident or nonresident person under 16 years of age shall not take deer with bow and arrow during the special archery season unless such person is accompanied by a person possessing the archery license described in RSA 208:5, I who is 18 years of age or older.
VIII. No person taking deer under the provisions of this section shall take or attempt to take deer with any type of firearm.
IX. An archery license purchased pursuant to this section shall not constitute satisfactory proof that the licensee has previously had a hunting license issued to the licensee in this state, or any other state, province or country as required by RSA 214:23-a.

longislander · 09-25-2022, 08:22 AM

https://www.meredithnh.org/police-de...on-application

https://legiscan.com/NH/text/SB12/id/1442360

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/.../159/159-6.htm

3 Repeal. RSA 159:4, relative to requiring a license to carry a concealed pistol or revolver, is repealed.

09-23-2022, 05:16 AM	#2
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,769 Thanks: 755 Thanked 1,462 Times in 1,018 Posts	Sailin, yes YOU and the thousands of others that don't listen. I don't always agree with what the powers that be tell us we should do, but on this one I am with them. Feeders not only make birds dependent, they draw the bears to populated areas.

09-23-2022, 03:37 PM	#5
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 435 Thanks: 17 Thanked 213 Times in 135 Posts	While attacks by black bears may be rare, the US National Park Service has this advice: “Black Bears: If you are attacked by a black bear, DO NOT PLAY DEAD. Try to escape to a secure place such as a car or building. If escape is not possible, try to ﬁght back using any object available. Concentrate your kicks and blows on the bear's face and muzzle.” This is in contrast to its advice about attacks by grizzly or brown bears, which in the first instance is to play dead and if that fails, then fight back. It seems that if you experience a rare black bear attack, it is likely that the bear intends to eat you or at least do grave bodily harm. There are times when the conventional wisdom about making yourself known to the black bear, raising your arms, shouting, etc. do not work. Several years ago while deer hunting on an old logging road, I was charged by a very large black bear and did all of the things that conventional wisdom recommends, to no avail. The bear just kept on coming at me and there were no cubs in the area. At about 200 feet away from me I put a rifle round in the dirt to its rear, with a second shot ready to hit it. Thankfully that was not necessary and the bear and I parted company. It was close enough that I did not want to wait and see if it was a bluff charge.

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09-23-2022, 09:25 PM	#7
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 435 Thanks: 17 Thanked 213 Times in 135 Posts	FlyingScot Your friend is a smart hunter for sure. Although the effective range of a hand gun is considerably less than a 30.06😎

09-24-2022, 08:41 PM	#9
winni83 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moultonborough, NH Posts: 435 Thanks: 17 Thanked 213 Times in 135 Posts	It appears that carrying a firearm while hunting with a bow and arrow pursuant to an archery license is permitted, but of course the firearm cannot be used to take game permitted under the archery license. See section below in bold. 208:5 Bow and Arrow. – I. The executive director shall set the fee pursuant to RSA 206:10, I, for issuance of archery licenses for the following categories: residents 16 years of age or older and nonresidents 16 years of age or older. II. The licensee shall be entitled to hunt wildlife with bow and arrow during the open season, subject to the restrictions of this title. III. The licensee shall be entitled to hunt deer during the special archery season established by the executive director, after consultation with the commission, pursuant to RSA 208:2 throughout the state and in Bear Brook Refuge. IV. The licensee shall be entitled to take one deer under the archery license and additional deer under the archery license as determined by the executive director in accordance with RSA 208:5-b. V. The licensee shall be entitled to carry firearms while hunting under the provisions of this section, unless such licensee is prohibited by state or federal law from carrying a firearm. VI. A resident or nonresident person under 16 years of age shall not take wildlife with a bow and arrow unless said person is accompanied by a properly licensed person who is 18 years of age or older. VII. A resident or nonresident person under 16 years of age shall not take deer with bow and arrow during the special archery season unless such person is accompanied by a person possessing the archery license described in RSA 208:5, I who is 18 years of age or older. VIII. No person taking deer under the provisions of this section shall take or attempt to take deer with any type of firearm. IX. An archery license purchased pursuant to this section shall not constitute satisfactory proof that the licensee has previously had a hunting license issued to the licensee in this state, or any other state, province or country as required by RSA 214:23-a.

09-25-2022, 08:22 AM	#10
longislander Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 547 Thanks: 49 Thanked 101 Times in 76 Posts	https://www.meredithnh.org/police-de...on-application https://legiscan.com/NH/text/SB12/id/1442360 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/.../159/159-6.htm 3 Repeal. RSA 159:4, relative to requiring a license to carry a concealed pistol or revolver, is repealed.