**NEW Restaurant** Birch & Vine, Tuftonboro

[phoenix]

My understand with Sandy Point was the new owners did not buy the recipe for the lobster stuffing so they made their and it was disappointing . The stuffing was the main different from everyone else. Little details can make a difference

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by phoenix

My understand with Sandy Point was the new owners did not buy the recipe for the lobster stuffing so they made their and it was disappointing . The stuffing was the main different from everyone else. Little details can make a difference

I assume you mean this as one example of many shortcomings...weren't there numerous scathing reviews on this forum covering a wide variety of topics? Food, service, staff manners, chef manners....It was ugly

[Mpowers203]

I understand, the close knit, melting pot (perfect example of locals interacting with tourists in a cohesive way) that was the Pine Cone isn’t coming back. I don’t intend for the Pine Cone to come back, I don’t.

Tuftonboro was one of the last cozy corners on Winnipesaukee, one of the last to fall to developers from down south.

The man who bought the property and leased it to Patti has a history of transforming blue collar areas, gentrification, etc…

http://winthroptranscript.com/2014/0...s-development/

Bob’s vision will push out the people we treasure in this area and invite the people we most despise in this area. Long gone are the summer breaks where traffic calms down and subsides. Massachusetts is moving north, rapidly. I’m from there, but came to this region 20 something years ago specifically because NH is the antithesis of MA. It’s quiet and polite, the exact opposite of MA. I visit my family back in North Reading, Tewksbury, Burlington and can’t wait to get home.

Now that all that is out of the way, Patti and her motives were given this opportunity under the guise of establishing Tuftonboro as the new Winthrop, MA. Local employees quitting one by one, local patrons abandoning the BWhine once they realized that Patti isn’t here to create an eatery for all.

A customer of mine (founder of Stoneyfield) recently went there with his family and was treated with so much disrespect, they all left. Apparently, they tried to seat themselves in an empty restaurant and got the finger wave. God forbid.

Dave and Sheila didn’t make the best food, but they understood the culture and community, Patti’s betting on Bob and this area becoming the next Winthrop, and I will never support that…..no matter what the food tastes like. She’s made her stance on who she wants coming to her establishment. The difference is, the Pine Cone had all people from all walks of life enjoying Tuftonboro together, whereas the BWhine doesn’t.

{Private voicemail removed}

I’ve also outed several of BW’s successful reviews as bots and they’ve been removed from google/yelp/yahoo. Ask around, but she’s “not on social media” ��

[marinewife]

MPowers,

I am in agreement with you on how the employees as well as the original owners were told one thing but that changed into another. Have met up with several long time Pine Cone employees that left. She promised the owners she'd carry on their legacy and not change things too much, but it's evident that isn't the case now.

There were many Pine Cone customers that were there 3 times a day, early morning for the store, lunch time, and then happy hour or dinner. She lost all of those people.

Their pizza this summer started at 18.00 for a small plain and went to $33.00 for one with toppings.

The reviews for Birch show more than half are from reviewers who had under 3 reviews, always a suspicious number, especially for a new restaurant...

I'm hoping the man you mentioned who has bought up all of the surrounding property to Pine Cone (and across the street lakeside) very recently does NOT change this town into Winthrop, but time will tell. What a shame if that happens.

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Mpowers203

I understand, the close knit, melting pot (perfect example of locals interacting with tourists in a cohesive way) that was the Pine Cone isn’t coming back. I don’t intend for the Pine Cone to come back, I don’t.

Tuftonboro was one of the last cozy corners on Winnipesaukee, one of the last to fall to developers from down south.

The man who bought the property and leased it to Patti has a history of transforming blue collar areas, gentrification, etc…

http://winthroptranscript.com/2014/0...s-development/

Bob’s vision will push out the people we treasure in this area and invite the people we most despise in this area. Long gone are the summer breaks where traffic calms down and subsides. Massachusetts is moving north, rapidly. I’m from there, but came to this region 20 something years ago specifically because NH is the antithesis of MA. It’s quiet and polite, the exact opposite of MA. I visit my family back in North Reading, Tewksbury, Burlington and can’t wait to get home.

Now that all that is out of the way, Patti and her motives were given this opportunity under the guise of establishing Tuftonboro as the new Winthrop, MA. Local employees quitting one by one, local patrons abandoning the BWhine once they realized that Patti isn’t here to create an eatery for all.

A customer of mine (founder of Stoneyfield) recently went there with his family and was treated with so much disrespect, they all left. Apparently, they tried to seat themselves in an empty restaurant and got the finger wave. God forbid.

Dave and Sheila didn’t make the best food, but they understood the culture and community, Patti’s betting on Bob and this area becoming the next Winthrop, and I will never support that…..no matter what the food tastes like. She’s made her stance on who she wants coming to her establishment. The difference is, the Pine Cone had all people from all walks of life enjoying Tuftonboro together, whereas the BWhine doesn’t.



I’ve also outed several of BW’s successful reviews as bots and they’ve been removed from google/yelp/yahoo. Ask around, but she’s “not on social media” ��

Hey Mpowers with a brand new account apparently set up just to trash a local business--

I am not happy about the Pine Cone's demise either--I was a weekly summer diner and have not eaten at B&V yet. But anybody deserves more than innuendo. Winthrop has been densely populated for decades (centuries?) --there is no comparison to T'boro. I listened to the SoundCloud--I did not hear anything that I understood to be a lie.

Please post specific lies, and back them up, or just leave her alone...

[SailinAway]

I don't know if the positive Yelp reviews are fake or not, but the negative reviews all sound like they were written by the same person.

[Mpowers203]

I don’t see any negative reviews, only moderate ones…..

EDIT: never mind, found them

They sound like similar experiences as opposed to similar vernacular.

[SailinAway]

Originally Posted by Mpowers203

They sound like similar experiences as opposed to similar vernacular.

The writing style is oddly similar in all of them.

[Mpowers203]

I can see that a little, but I personally know two of the reviewers. The Gary H one is definitely real, heard about it around town.

[WinterHarborGuy]

Sheesh. This is taking on some scary vibes.

This is a restaurant. If you don’t like the food, their approach, the cost, or the owner…don’t patronize them.

I am still kind of shocked at some of the vitriol here.

[Seaplane Pilot]

Originally Posted by WinterHarborGuy

Sheesh. This is taking on some scary vibes.

This is a restaurant. If you don’t like the food, their approach, the cost, or the owner…don’t patronize them.

I am still kind of shocked at some of the vitriol here.

Well said. Talk about Peyton Place! I’m seeing some similarities between this and the seaplane saga at 19 Mile Bay. Small town BS where people involve themselves in the business of others. It seems that Tuftonboro has more than their fair share of this nonsense.

[barefootbay]

From what I’ve read here this isn’t about restaurants or food or service it’s personalities !

[Mpowers203]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Well said. Talk about Peyton Place! I’m seeing some similarities between this and the seaplane saga at 19 Mile Bay. Small town BS where people involve themselves in the business of others. It seems that Tuftonboro has more than their fair share of this nonsense.

Ok, so how I change my username to DontLikeBirchVine?

Seaplane guy bringing up seaplane saga…..classic. ‘That’s a bold move cotton’

[Mpowers203]

Originally Posted by WinterHarborGuy

Sheesh. This is taking on some scary vibes.

This is a restaurant. If you don’t like the food, their approach, the cost, or the owner…don’t patronize them.

I am still kind of shocked at some of the vitriol here.

Vitriole seems fair, I respect your comment…..knowing most of the people involved/affected by the BWhine certainly skewed my opinions.

Scary vibes, no. Not in my arsenal. I speak loud and sometimes well….just using a forum for what it’s for…..discussion. I think that as many, if not more, people who support the BWhine may also agree with me, but just don’t own a megaphone nor the (searching for metaphor for balls) audacity to address it publicly.

If that truly frightened you, I sincerely apologize.

[baygo]

Originally Posted by Mpowers203

I don’t see any negative reviews, only moderate ones…..

EDIT: never mind, found them

They sound like similar experiences as opposed to similar vernacular.

Welcome to the forum Mpowers203. You certainly have presented a clear picture for us to assess your character.

Patti; keep your focus and apply your passion to bring your dreams to reality. The easiest part of restaurant ownership is getting open. Don’t forget what Carnegie said; “I don’t care what the are saying as long as they a talking about me”