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Old 01-25-2023, 07:23 AM   #1
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There is already a decibel limit law for all boats in the State of NH...86 dB measured at 50 feet for any boat mfg. before 1978, 84 dB for boats mfg. between 1978 and 1981, 82 dB for any boat mfg. after 1981. Dan
Maybe check on that information?

"Fly-by" dB checks were abandoned for exams at a dock. NHMP now use their meters on the "burble" emitted while boats are stationary.(Which is easily modified later by speedsters determined to be "noticed"). Selective "open-exhausts" were guilefully made legal. (And are regularly abused).

Ironically, "Fly-by" dB exams were abandoned due to the high-speed dangers posed by ocean-racers to the examiners!

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Ditto on what Woodsy said.. If I recall the speed limit was a reaction to when a certain owner of a certain marina slammed into an island at night while OUI (impaired driver). It had nothing to do with a speed-related accident. Speed was just an additional factor given the impaired state and darkness. If you want to dump 30 gals on fuel to get across the Broads faster, as long as you keep the DB down, enjoy. But above the waterline open headers for the whole lake to hear, pull 'em over...
Three lives were changed forever by the "Captain"--the leading cheerleader for unlimited ocean-racer speeds on Lake Winnipesaukee. Because a MD-neighbor was on the death scene almost immediately, victimization was kept to just one fatality. SBONH ("Safe Boaters of New Hampshire)" suddenly went mute.

Their boat's speed could have been easily determined by comparing the extent of damage to their bow and the wide red fiberglass "signature" left at the granite ledge's waterline. Proper alignment to the ledge could be assessed by the mark left on the cottage by their boat's anchor!

The NHMP and Media were mute on such a simple computation.
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Their boat's speed could have been easily determined by comparing the extent of damage to their bow and the wide red fiberglass "signature" left at the granite ledge's waterline. Proper alignment to the ledge could be assessed by the mark left on the cottage by their boat's anchor!

The NHMP and Media were mute on such a simple computation.
There is a much easier way to determine the boat's speed and it was done.

After the accident the boat was barged to Glendale and taken by truck to the Marine Patrol building on 106 in Belmont.

The engine computers leave a record so they were removed and examined. By looking at the engines RPM when the accident occurred they were able to very closely determine the boat speed at the time of the accident.
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:08 AM   #3
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Maybe check on that information?
Sure, here ya go! As far as I know these are the latest revised statutes….

Universal Citation: NH Rev Stat § 270:37 (2017)
270:37 Decibel Limits on Noise. –
I. No person may operate, sell, or offer for sale any marine engine which is capable of being operated in a manner which exceeds the following noise levels measured under any testing procedure established pursuant to rules adopted under RSA 270:39:
(a) For a marine engine manufactured in or before 1990, a noise level of 90 decibels when subjected to stationary testing.
(b) For a marine engine manufactured after December 31, 1990, a noise level of 88 decibels when subjected to stationary testing.
(c) For a marine engine manufactured in or before 1990, a noise level of 84 decibels on the "A'' scale, measured at 50 feet.
(d) For a marine engine manufactured after December 31, 1990, a noise level of 82 decibels on the "A'' scale, measured at 50 feet.
II. The director or the director's agent may order the operator or owner of any boat which he or she has articulable suspicion to believe is capable of being operated in a manner which exceeds the decibel limits contained in this section to subject the boat to one or more noise level testing procedures as provided in this subdivision or to inspection of the engine and mechanical systems for violations of this section or RSA 270:25.
III. A boat owner or operator shall submit a boat which is the subject of an order by the director or the director's agent pursuant to RSA 270:37, II to noise level testing by the director or the director's agent immediately or at the time and location designated by the director or the director's agent. No person shall operate the boat after the time designated until it is subjected to such noise level testing or engine and mechanical system inspection.
IV. The director or the director's agent may prohibit the operator or owner of any boat which fails a noise level testing procedure from operating the boat until the boat successfully passes the procedure. No person shall operate a boat contrary to such an order of the director.
V. Pursuant to the penalties imposed under RSA 270: 41-a, any person convicted of violating this section shall be fined not less than $250. No portion of any fine imposed under this section shall be suspended or reduced by the court.
Source. 1976, 6:1. 1977, 140:1. 1987, 370:5. 1989, 209:1. 2006, 234:2, eff. June 1, 2006.

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I was under the impression that the ''noise'' that is currently being complained about was from on-board sound systems rather than motors.
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I was under the impression that the ''noise'' that is currently being complained about was from on-board sound systems rather than motors.
I'll take the sound of a throaty V-8 over rap music any day
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I'll take the sound of a throaty V-8 over rap music any day
This is not an either/or. Both types of abuses are inappropriate
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This is not an either/or. Both types of abuses are inappropriate
OK - just my opinion - I will take a moderately loud V-8 over moderately quiet rap music any day.
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No rap crap, Please!
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OK - just my opinion - I will take a moderately loud V-8 over moderately quiet rap music any day.
Ha! Me too!
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My boat is louder than most since it has a straight exhaust on it yet everyone I pass on boat or land tends to love it. It's amazing the watching the irony of these arguments always come up. I'm just here for the comments
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Rap is not music. lol


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certainly not the lyric parts, but a lot of the musical parts are " borrowed " from other artists, so it's kinda music... ;-)
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Let me apologize right now for introducing rap music (I mean noise) into a thread on the speed limit, My bad.

Hope everyone can get back on track.
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Let me apologize right now for introducing rap music (I mean noise) into a thread on the speed limit, My bad.

Hope everyone can get back on track.
too late....damage is done! :-)
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too late....damage is done! :-)
“Dr Drip” and “Snoop Doggie Poop”??

You can’t make this stuff up!

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“Dr Drip” and “Snoop Doggie Poop”??

You can’t make this stuff up!

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