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Old 03-18-2023, 06:15 AM   #1
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The Massachusetts Governor has proposed spending $28 million to implement a new law that will allow illegal immigrants to obtain a license to drive. As other states attempt to make the roads safer this is a step in the wrong direction.

In Massachusetts the Work and Family Mobility Act, passed into law by the Legislature in early June of 2022 over the veto of former Gov. Charlie Baker, will allow immigrants who cannot demonstrate their legal status to nevertheless use documentation from their home country to apply for and receive driver’s license.

It is safe to assume that the written test will be given in multiple languages to assure that the newly licensed drivers won't even be able to read a road sign.

What could possibly go wrong?
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They may have been driving quite some time without a license.

The attitude toward immigration has always been a bit sketchy. Boston was at one time a city that would have ''No Irish Permitted/Need Apply'' signs everywhere; that wouldn't float today. Now I think it is more of a Boston - New York thing, but I don't live there so can't really tell.

Someone coming north for a better life is really something we have dealt with since before my birth... and to be fair... my birth would not have happened without such immigration. My family would still be in Europe and I might never have been born.

But we see the inherent pressures of differing languages and customs.
We had two customers nearly get physical a few weeks back because one was a native of NH, and the other had come north from MA for a better life.
It started as a driving incident and escalated.
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Kevin Landigan, NH Union Leader, Mar 16, 2023: http://www.finance.yahoo.com/news/ma...225500384.html ..... no subscription needed

State Rep. Daniel Veilleux, D-Amherst, said "Last year, two-thirds of those killed in crashes in New Hampshire were not wearing restraints while the national average for unbelted highway fatality victims was about 50%."

"Rep. Ted Gorski, R-Bedford, said the bill violates the state Constitution because it would amount to government intrusion."

Supposedly, New Hampshire does not receive about 5-million dollars in federal grant money that would go into the NH general fund by not having a mandatory seat belt law.

It seems to me that drivers who chose not to wear a seat belt probably have other bad driving habits like crossing the center yellow line, and tail gating.
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I don't know of any article in the NH Constitution that protects us from ''government intrusion''.
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I don't know of any article in the NH Constitution that protects us from ''government intrusion''.
[Art.] 2-b. [Right of Privacy.] An individual's right to live free from governmental intrusion in private or personal information is natural, essential, and inherent.

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If we were talking about information.

His stated positions tend to give away that this is a very loosely held principle.
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After all I've read in this thread I ask the following.

What is so freaking difficult about fastening your seatbelt? I mean, it doesn't hurt. It's not hard to do. It isn't inconvenient.

Law or no law, why wouldn't everyone simply fasten their seatbelt to give themselves significantly better odds of survival in an accident? I suppose one could say they are preserving their pride by 'sticking up for their rights' but the potential end result would bring nothing but heartbreak to loved ones and friends.
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After all I've read in this thread I ask the following

What is so freaking difficult about fastening your seatbelt? I mean, it doesn't hurt. It's not hard to do. It isn't inconvenient.

Law or no law, why wouldn't everyone simply fasten their seatbelt to give themselves significantly better odds of survival in an accident? I suppose one could say they are preserving their pride by 'sticking up for their rights' but the potential end result would bring nothing but heartbreak to loved ones and friends.
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The Massachusetts Governor has proposed spending $28 million to implement a new law that will allow illegal immigrants to obtain a license to drive. As other states attempt to make the roads safer this is a step in the wrong direction.

In Massachusetts the Work and Family Mobility Act, passed into law by the Legislature in early June of 2022 over the veto of former Gov. Charlie Baker, will allow immigrants who cannot demonstrate their legal status to nevertheless use documentation from their home country to apply for and receive driver’s license.

It is safe to assume that the written test will be given in multiple languages to assure that the newly licensed drivers won't even be able to read a road sign.

What could possibly go wrong?
Not trying to divert subject, just a quick question regarding Driving License. In Mass, is all that is required to vote in any election is you have a drivers license?
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