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Old 05-27-2023, 09:05 PM   #1
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I am quite surprised this observation has not struck a chord. 1000+ reads and no movement??

I will say, if you're an installer and your client comes back to you and say's where are my markers?, don't say I didn't warn you.

Ive Been there and it not a fun time..... From a $700 7" Echomap to a $3500 12" GPSmap, it's all the same chart. Its discouraging when the free app is more useful
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Old 05-31-2023, 11:35 AM   #2
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I'm surprised that there are not more Garmin users seeing this. Unless they have an older chart without the problem? Or just don't care?

FYI, there is a 'duplicate' thread here on this same issue:
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...d.php?p=383029
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Old 05-31-2023, 01:38 PM   #3
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I'm surprised that there are not more Garmin users seeing this. Unless they have an older chart without the problem? Or just don't care?

FYI, there is a 'duplicate' thread here on this same issue:
https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums...d.php?p=383029
Honestly, I don't currently have the bandwidth to think about it right now. We've got a DV57 (I think) from 2014 that we've used without an issue.

My philosophy is that rocks don't move and the worst that can happen is we're over-cautious.

For example, last year a marker was removed that obviously will still be on our map—it won't hurt avoiding the "marker" (other than looking silly, maybe?!).

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Old 05-31-2023, 09:45 PM   #4
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Thank you Downeast, I did not do the up date when it asked me to this year,still running last years chart. Every time I log on it’s asking me to update, not gonna do it!
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Old 06-01-2023, 10:36 AM   #5
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Default Same issue on Simrad

I got a new boat this season with Simrad evo3 units. Built-in charts were junk, so I ordered the Navionics Platinum+ U.S. East card. Installed it last weekend, to discover what I think is the same bug being reported by others on Garmin units.

White spar buoys with red/black tips are ALL marked the same. In my case, all solid black (looks like others are seeing them solid white on the Garmin rendering).

Navionics web app has them correct:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/mXuGZeE2

But my Simrad display does not differentiate between them:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/bLuZ8EJ4

I've emailed help@navionics.com, looking for a Simrad support channel now, as I'm a bit worried Nav will point fingers at Simrad, claiming it's a rendering problem in their software given that it looks correct on the official web chart.

Very frustrating, black/red distinction is a critical safety issue on Winni.
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Old 06-01-2023, 11:51 PM   #6
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I got a new boat this season with Simrad evo3 units. Built-in charts were junk, so I ordered the Navionics Platinum+ U.S. East card. Installed it last weekend, to discover what I think is the same bug being reported by others on Garmin units.

White spar buoys with red/black tips are ALL marked the same. In my case, all solid black (looks like others are seeing them solid white on the Garmin rendering).

Navionics web app has them correct:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/mXuGZeE2

But my Simrad display does not differentiate between them:
https://share.getcloudapp.com/bLuZ8EJ4

I've emailed help@navionics.com, looking for a Simrad support channel now, as I'm a bit worried Nav will point fingers at Simrad, claiming it's a rendering problem in their software given that it looks correct on the official web chart.

Very frustrating, black/red distinction is a critical safety issue on Winni.
$249 card is now less useful than the v22.xx. Garmin has us right where they want us. C'mon Raymarine, psssst here is your chance, to reinvent the Dragonfly. not everyone needs an MFD !
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Old 06-02-2023, 03:30 PM   #7
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I submitted a bug report to this URL, if others want to do the same:
https://supportforms.garmin.com/en-U...-error-report/

(that was the request from the Navionics support team, probably just passing the buck, but we'll see).
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Old 06-08-2023, 07:17 AM   #8
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I use my garmin charts and to be honest I don't care what the colors are. As long as the depth charts are correct and the buoy locations are too, I'm good.
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Old 06-08-2023, 08:58 AM   #9
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Here's another example.

So you're on the lake, perhaps the sun is in your eyes, or the lighting is such that you can't see the colors clearly on the navaids. Perhaps you're in an area where you don't travel often.

So you glance at your Garmin to make an informed decision on which way to pass the markers that you can see coming up ahead.

Here's what you see on your display, which side of these markers do you pass?

Yes of course, check your paper chart, know where you are, use your compass, stop if needed, but the Garmin GPS should have been helpful here, instead of useless or confusing.
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Here is essentially the same area of the same chart in the Navionics web viewer.

The markers are much more visible (black rectangles) and have a color square on top of them to show red-top vs black-top type of navaids to indicate which side is safe passage.

It's a simple change, and the information used to be on the Garmin charts. So we're trying to get them to fix this issue. They seem to be listening, but it's taking some time to get the results published.

I also asked them to make the 'suggested route' lines a bit easier to see, perhaps a different color or make the line thicker as the current implementation tends to get lost among the depth contour lines.
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