new speed limit public hearing Sept 25

[Airwaves]

I went looking for the winnfab website. It's always good to know who the opponents are, and now and again they might be right!

However after a google search, and doing a winnfab.com and .org search, I couldn't find them

Do they still exist? Are they behind the latest speed limit attempt or did they slide into the dark and removed themselves?

I am sure some folks on the forum will know the answer to this question

[Skip]

Originally Posted by Airwaves

...I went looking for the winnfab website...
Do they still exist? ...

WINNFABS.COM

[SAMIAM]

Another setback for the speed limit folks.Meredith News headline this week......"RADAR GUNS HAVE TOUGH TIME CLOCKING SOME WATERCRAFT"....Jeesh...
one thing after another.

[Phantom]

I really hate the thought of getting the Forum blood pressure rising again and getting a series of rehashed (HB162) threads .............

But ...........

Has anyone heard what's happening ....... quiet scares me!!

And finally, yes I'm against any form of "Daylight" speed limits for those curious.

[John A. Birdsall]

I hear that they are gonna do a trial run on boat speed limit. But they are going to use 40 MPH daytime and 20 MPH night time. This will in fact limit the type of boating people on the Big lake are use to. They are going to start this trial on Jan 24 2007 and end it on March 31 2007. That should keep you LBGF off the lake for a little while.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

That should keep you LBGF off the lake for a little while.

Your Sarcasm is noted John --- For the record, I have a 24ft Family boat (bowrider) and 3 lovely grand-daughters (all under 4) who love to ride with Grandpa!!

[gtxrider]

Originally Posted by John A. Birdsall

I hear that they are gonna do a trial run on boat speed limit. But they are going to use 40 MPH daytime and 20 MPH night time. This will in fact limit the type of boating people on the Big lake are use to. They are going to start this trial on Jan 24 2007 and end it on March 31 2007. That should keep you LBGF off the lake for a little while.

I want to see a boat to 40mph in January! This may slow down the bed races and cause trouble for the planes landing and taking off in AltonBay in February.

[Phantom]

Perhaps I'm just having an "off day"

But ......

It amazes me how a thread (a simple question) can get off topic so quickly. Perhaps they have nothing better to do? Pick up a phone and call a distant relative or something ............ geeeeeesh

[Skip]

Originally Posted by Yankee

That's pretty funny John!

However, It does bring up a question to my mind that if a speed limit is imposed, will it also pertain to snowmobiles, ATVs, and cars? And what about planes landing and taking off of the ice?

Good question....we did cover this in another thread, but it was awhile back.

It only applies to boats (watercraft).

Skip

[webmaster]

Originally Posted by Yankee

And what about planes landing and taking off of the ice?

This was covered before:

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ead.php?t=2708

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/...ead.php?t=2718

Remember the "Search" function of the forum.

[fatlazyless]

In today's Nov 1 Laconia Citizen, page A9 has a 12 paragraph article titled 'Boat speed limits a big issue for Heald.'

A few paragraphs...

"MEREDITH- Bruce Heald is known as an author, a professor, and for the past two years, a Representative for the state legislature. The Meredith Republican is running for another term in the Belknap County District 3 seat with boat speed limits, lake preservation, and fair educational funding his primary concerns."

another paragraph(s) further down...

"After living for 41 years on Lake Winnipesaukee, Heald is mostly concerned about the "protection of my community of the Lakes Region, of the White Moutains" both from a residential standpoint and for the impact on the region's tourist business.

His special area of concern is the speed of boats. Heald said he worked as a purser on the MS Mount Washington and saw the dangerously high speeds many boats, especially large boats, were capable of. He now strongly supports increased law enforcement of boat speeding on the lake, through the bill creating boat speed limts earlier this year was defeated.

I want to see this come back, Heald said. We passed this through the legislature, but the senate killed it.

Heald supports tighter law enforcement of not only boat speeds, but also lake preservation and wildlife protection, including dealing with pollution such as sewage discharge.

Live free or die: I absolutely agree with that, he said. We have too many laws; many of those laws are being abused.

He also said loon preservation is very near and dear to my heart.

[Airwaves]

Live free or die: I absolutely agree with that, he said. We have too many laws; many of those laws are being abused.

Too many laws so let's pass another one? Huh?

[tis]

Exactly what I thought when I read that, too, Airwaves!

[Cal]

Typical politician

[SAMIAM]

If Bruce Heald wants to represent us,he should abide by the decision that has been already passed rather than be an advocate fro a new law that suits his personal agenda

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by SAMIAM

If Bruce Heald wants to represent us,he should abide by the decision that has been already passed rather than be an advocate for a new law that suits his personal agenda

Then he'd be representing the State Senate in that case...

On the brighter side:

I think he has every right to push an agenda (that's kinda the point of the NH House) and it's good that he's up front about it prior to the election. It takes passionate people to get laws passed and we like to have lots and lots of passionate people in our house. If this is what people really want, they will vote for him; if not, oh well.

If he is voted in and his ideas prove to be popular, but bad; the Senate is there to prevent them from becoming law. This process worked perfectly, once already, with HB162.

The best part about the whole system is that reps make pretty much no money ($200 a year, I think) to do this kind of work. We don't have to pay them to push their own agendas, like we do at the national level.

NH is pretty unique in that we have 400 Represenatives, which makes our State House of Representatives the world's third largest English speaking Parliamentary body. This does, of course, really pare down the true power of each Representative, since there's so many; but that's why we can easily tolerate (perhaps encourage) passion at this level of government.

Be thankful. We live in a remarkably unique state where our people are far better represented than perhaps anywhere else in the world.

[Pine Island Guy]

every elected official has a personal agenda from the President on down... if their agenda happens to agree with our own, we think they are brilliant and doing the best thing for the country (or city or state) and we vote for them... if we don't agree with them, we vote for the other guy!

Bruce is certainly a well respected historian of the Lake and has done much to ensure the Lake remains a treasured place. In his view he is helping to continue to make the Lake enjoyed by all with his agenda. I agree with Dave R that he is being up-front about it and defending it (a rare thing in politics these days)!

Now his constituents can decide for themselves if they support him or not and then vote their conscience…

PIG

p.s. on a side note Verizon is supposed to restore phone service to the island today, so hopefully the Pine Island Cams (east and south) should be back up shortly!

[SAMIAM]

Actually,Dave and Pine Island guy make a good point.I will agree that our like ot dislike of certain politicians depends on whose ox is being gored.

[Airwaves]

Dave R wrote:

I think he has every right to push an agenda (that's kinda the point of the NH House) and it's good that he's up front about it prior to the election.

I certainly don't question his passion or his right to bring up an issue and propose laws. I am questioning is his logic...

Live free or die: I absolutely agree with that, he said. We have too many laws;

As he proposes yet another law!