Update to Lake Related Legislation

longislander · 01-25-2024, 09:35 AM

A bill is considered killed when the House or Senate votes to adopt the committee report of "Inexpedient to legislate," or when a motion from the floor to "Indefinitely postpone" is adopted.

https://www.nh.gov/almanac/bills.htm...20is%20adopted.

John Mercier · 01-25-2024, 12:59 PM

The House or Senate did not vote.
The Executive is for the committee to vote on its recommendation.

The House or Senate has a vote either the day after or at an even later date.
We call that a floor vote. It will not be 18-2.

tis · 01-25-2024, 05:36 PM

Just imagine a Braun Bay overnight!!

Descant · 01-25-2024, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tis

Just imagine a Braun Bay overnight!!

With The Dive to provide music, food, toilets, etc. The state could make overnighting a real money maker...

tis · 01-25-2024, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Descant

With The Dive to provide music, food, toilets, etc. The state could make overnighting a real money maker...

Perfect.

John Mercier · 01-25-2024, 08:47 PM

Don't try to sugar-coated.

ishoot308 · 01-25-2024, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Don't try to sugar-coated.

Yo John…try replying to the post your referring to…your post are ridiculously hard to figure out who you are replying to….i know your smart enough to do that….

Dan

Descant · 01-26-2024, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

Yo John…try replying to the post your referring to…your post are ridiculously hard to figure out who you are replying to….i know your smart enough to do that….

Dan

Following FLL?

tis · 01-26-2024, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

Yo John…try replying to the post your referring to…your post are ridiculously hard to figure out who you are replying to….i know your smart enough to do that….

Dan

I am glad I am not the only stupid one that didn't get it.

John Mercier · 01-26-2024, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ishoot308

Yo John…try replying to the post your referring to…your post are ridiculously hard to figure out who you are replying to….i know your smart enough to do that….

Dan

The concept of the temporary houseboats is like bob houses on the frozen lake.

The State should not see any significant tax advantages.
Promoting it as a revenue producer is sugar coating it at best.
There may be a jump in local revenue, but that would be offset by where the revenue would have been if this option doesn't exist.

It is a push/pull.

Biggd · 01-26-2024, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Descant

With The Dive to provide music, food, toilets, etc. The state could make overnighting a real money maker...

Hotel California.

martbri7 · 02-08-2024, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tis

Just imagine a Braun Bay overnight!!

Hold my beer watch this !! 😂

tis · 02-08-2024, 06:27 AM

Not only would it be a free vacation not having to pay taxes or for a slip, how could Marine Patrol possible monitor the boats to see if they left after three days. This is ridiculous.

John Mercier · 02-08-2024, 10:14 AM

More than likely they will adopt the permit system used for the OHRV and Snowmobiles.

It will have the dates on them and be posted in a way to be noticed.

That permit will cover costs of enforcement/etc and ease the process.

It does make lakefront vacations cheaper... which I think is there point.

The only problem I can really see... and haven't really thought deeply about this... is that there seems to be no limitations to the numbers permitted.
That could/will, in my mind, create problems over time should this take off.

Obviously limiting the numbers really just takes us back to where we are currently, with not everyone being able to access when they want, how they want.

Lake Winnipesaukee Alliance · 02-08-2024, 03:59 PM

Thank you everyone for contacting the House of Representatives. We listened in today to the full House session, and a motion was made for an Indefinite Postponement of HB1049. This effectively kills it, as it will not advance to the Senate. The vote was 324 in support to 53 opposed. The representative who made the motion stated that they had received overwhelming opposition to this bill. Thank you for your support!

John Mercier · 02-08-2024, 07:17 PM

53 is a lot more than I expected.

FlyingScot · 02-10-2024, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Winnipesaukee Assoc

Thank you everyone for contacting the House of Representatives. We listened in today to the full House session, and a motion was made for an Indefinite Postponement of HB1049. This effectively kills it, as it will not advance to the Senate. The vote was 324 in support to 53 opposed. The representative who made the motion stated that they had received overwhelming opposition to this bill. Thank you for your support!

Great job by the Lake Winnipesaukee Association staff in organizing the opposition. Thanks!

John Mercier · 02-10-2024, 05:41 PM

It was an extremely flawed bill.
They had no answer for the number of vessels that might be considered. Areas that may be used - navigation could become a nightmare. Or even the fact that once launched, they trailer may be occupying the public parking for the entire weekend blocking out others.

I found it unfathomable that 53 legislators could not see that even the basic issues could not be resolved in this session regardless of how many committee hours were expended on this one item.

They should have used a study committee bill.

02-08-2024, 03:59 PM	#15
Lake Winnipesaukee Alliance Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Gilford Posts: 115 Thanks: 25 Thanked 178 Times in 58 Posts	Overnight Mooring Bill Killed, House Votes for Indefinite Postponement Thank you everyone for contacting the House of Representatives. We listened in today to the full House session, and a motion was made for an Indefinite Postponement of HB1049. This effectively kills it, as it will not advance to the Senate. The vote was 324 in support to 53 opposed. The representative who made the motion stated that they had received overwhelming opposition to this bill. Thank you for your support!

01-25-2024, 09:35 AM	#1
longislander Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 546 Thanks: 49 Thanked 100 Times in 75 Posts	A bill is considered killed when the House or Senate votes to adopt the committee report of "Inexpedient to legislate," or when a motion from the floor to "Indefinitely postpone" is adopted. https://www.nh.gov/almanac/bills.htm...20is%20adopted.

01-25-2024, 12:59 PM	#2
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,460 Thanks: 3 Thanked 609 Times in 503 Posts	The House or Senate did not vote. The Executive is for the committee to vote on its recommendation. The House or Senate has a vote either the day after or at an even later date. We call that a floor vote. It will not be 18-2.

01-25-2024, 05:36 PM	#3
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,759 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,462 Times in 1,018 Posts	Just imagine a Braun Bay overnight!!

01-25-2024, 08:47 PM	#6
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,460 Thanks: 3 Thanked 609 Times in 503 Posts	Don't try to sugar-coated.

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02-08-2024, 06:27 AM	#13
tis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,759 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,462 Times in 1,018 Posts	Not only would it be a free vacation not having to pay taxes or for a slip, how could Marine Patrol possible monitor the boats to see if they left after three days. This is ridiculous.

02-08-2024, 10:14 AM	#14
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,460 Thanks: 3 Thanked 609 Times in 503 Posts	More than likely they will adopt the permit system used for the OHRV and Snowmobiles. It will have the dates on them and be posted in a way to be noticed. That permit will cover costs of enforcement/etc and ease the process. It does make lakefront vacations cheaper... which I think is there point. The only problem I can really see... and haven't really thought deeply about this... is that there seems to be no limitations to the numbers permitted. That could/will, in my mind, create problems over time should this take off. Obviously limiting the numbers really just takes us back to where we are currently, with not everyone being able to access when they want, how they want.

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02-08-2024, 07:17 PM	#16
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02-10-2024, 05:41 PM	#18
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,460 Thanks: 3 Thanked 609 Times in 503 Posts	It was an extremely flawed bill. They had no answer for the number of vessels that might be considered. Areas that may be used - navigation could become a nightmare. Or even the fact that once launched, they trailer may be occupying the public parking for the entire weekend blocking out others. I found it unfathomable that 53 legislators could not see that even the basic issues could not be resolved in this session regardless of how many committee hours were expended on this one item. They should have used a study committee bill.

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