Dave's boat shoppe ?

[Seaplane Pilot]

Wanna bet that there will be condos built on this property?

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by Seaplane Pilot

Wanna bet that there will be condos built on this property?

I’d almost guarantee it. Much more money to be made than leasing out a boat shop. I saw it hit the market, and was surprised to see how much less it actually closed for. Wishing I had taken a shot at it, but for boat purposes not development.

[codeman671]

Of course we don’t know the particulars of the deal, but I am surprised that there wasn’t some sort of arrangement up front between Dave and Tamposi to have him come back in the spring to at least get people’s boats taken care of and launched for the season. Pretty ****ty if you ask me. Lots of loyal customers are being held in limbo now.

He poked me a bit on a deal once so I haven’t been back.

[Descant]

All of the flats will be condos ("walk to beautiful town beach") someday unless the good people of Gilford zone the area as agriculture.

[John Mercier]

Is there water and sewer nearby?

Flat land without ledge and easy access to utilities holds high value...
But you can also build a commercial operation in a lease or condo variation below the residential lease or condo units.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Is there water and sewer nearby?

Flat land without ledge and easy access to utilities holds high value...
But you can also build a commercial operation in a lease or condo variation below the residential lease or condo units.

No. 4 years ago, I assisted an RI developer who wanted to build a mall complex similar to other resorts with commercial as well as residential condos. The sticking point was water and sewage access. Since there is no access, the idea is questionable as to ground sustainability. He shelved the idea. The RI developer is related to the original Gunstock Acres developer, Cherry Valley Road condos, and Pier IV at the Weirs.

Tamposi is related to the Tamposi developers in the Nashua, Bedford area. He also bought Dave's Motorboat Shoppe land and building. I believe he is renting out the space to a marine shop manager. His plan for the property is anyone's guess.

[John Mercier]

I know Winnisquam built a building on 106 just below me. They use that for boat storage... maybe a this will be a mixture of storage and repair/detailing?

Those operations if well orchestrated do not have to be on the same site as a marina with valuable land being used up.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

I know Winnisquam built a building on 106 just below me. They use that for boat storage... maybe a this will be a mixture of storage and repair/detailing?

Those operations if well orchestrated do not have to be on the same site as a marina with valuable land being used up.

Lakeport Landing has boat storage off Lily Pond Road in Gilford. Irwin Marine has boat storage in the back of Gilford CVS at the former Grosman site and in Laconia at the former Texwood plant.

[John Mercier]

Where is West Alton's?

[codeman671]

Originally Posted by John Mercier

Where is West Alton's?

All of their storage is on site. They have a huge amount of acreage down there.

[John Mercier]

Maybe seeing an opportunity to buy, move the storage offsite, and develop the lot in other ways?

Lots of parts moving in that area... possibilities seem endless.

[ApS]

Originally Posted by codeman671

Of course we don’t know the particulars of the deal, but I am surprised that there wasn’t some sort of arrangement up front between Dave and Tamposi to have him come back in the spring to at least get people’s boats taken care of and launched for the season. Pretty ****** if you ask me. Lots of loyal customers are being held in limbo now.

He poked me a bit on a deal once so I haven’t been back.

Advised the replacement of both magneto modules would make the repair (which I thought was an ethanol issue) not economically feasible, I approved the repair anyway. It was, after all, the prettiest of my three 6-HP Johnson outboards. (All for sale in June).

The bill came to $600 and the modules were the old ones . Handed a bag containing my requested new 15-foot fuel line, I slouched back to Wolfeboro only to find it was five feet short!

[Weekend Pundit]

Originally Posted by codeman671

I’d almost guarantee it. Much more money to be made than leasing out a boat shop. I saw it hit the market, and was surprised to see how much less it actually closed for. Wishing I had taken a shot at it, but for boat purposes not development.

The problem with that property is that it would likely require a sewer hookup if more than a couple of residences, and even then it could be a problem because the water table is quite high on that property. That means no septic system. Nearby homes have septic, but they've been there for decades. The newer laws under the Clean Water Act would likely prevent condos on the property unless the developer wanted to spend a lot of money for a sewer hookup. They would have to go out all the way to Route 11 to intercept the sewer main.

[Woodsy]

It's the new home of Beacon Marine....

Woodsy

[first timer]

Originally Posted by Weekend Pundit

The problem with that property is that it would likely require a sewer hookup if more than a couple of residences, and even then it could be a problem because the water table is quite high on that property. That means no septic system. Nearby homes have septic, but they've been there for decades. The newer laws under the Clean Water Act would likely prevent condos on the property unless the developer wanted to spend a lot of money for a sewer hookup. They would have to go out all the way to Route 11 to intercept the sewer main.

Money is not a problem...

[John Mercier]

I think he meant the cost of developing the property for such a use would equate to the need for a higher sales price for the condos.

[Fargo]

I went to Daves Motorboat Shoppe this morning. Ryan is going to launch my boat Monday morning. End of story, business as usual.

[rick35]

How does launching work with Dave's? A few years ago while having lunch at the Lyons Den I watched a Dave's guy launch a boat and then got into my boat in order to get it to an open spot at the visitor dock. Getting into someone's boat is a no-no and I figured it was probably a regular thing. I went down to the dock and let the guy know I wasn't happy. I don't think it meant anything.

[jst_4_kiks]

Originally Posted by rick35

How does launching work with Dave's? A few years ago while having lunch at the Lyons Den I watched a Dave's guy launch a boat and then got into my boat in order to get it to an open spot at the visitor dock. Getting into someone's boat is a no-no and I figured it was probably a regular thing. I went down to the dock and let the guy know I wasn't happy. I don't think it meant anything.

That may have been the issue years ago. I have heard on social media that some people will move a boat some (untying the dock lines) to move it so there's extra space for a larger boat. As far as getting in a boat that's not your's to move it, is a huge no in my eye's.

For launch process with Dave's aka Beacon Marine, we have a launch schedule for every 30 minute time slot (9am to 230pm) thru the week day (we are open from 8 to 12 on Saturda). Ryan will transport the boat to Glendale Ramp and launch it for the owner. Past few boats that he's launched the owner has met him there to take the boat away. Other time's its tied up to the visitor dock and the owner will come down later and take the boat away.

[gravy boat]

Originally Posted by rick35

How does launching work with Dave's? A few years ago while having lunch at the Lyons Den I watched a Dave's guy launch a boat and then got into my boat in order to get it to an open spot at the visitor dock. Getting into someone's boat is a no-no and I figured it was probably a regular thing. I went down to the dock and let the guy know I wasn't happy. I don't think it meant anything.

Not so a no-no. You block, you get moved. Period. Resident or not. Were you in the way of the launch area?

We are residents and launched and pulled ourselves for years and were annoyed with non-residents taking up the launch and general resident spaces to dine. We pay taxes for the privilege. Non-Gilford residents do not. The restaurant should insist its patrons park on the multiple “Island only” resident docks. The Island spots are mostly empty days and evenings.

Bottom line - you get moved if you block launch areas.

[rick35]

You assume wrong. I was not blocking the launch. I was parked in a 3 hour spot. But thanks for the feedback.

[gravy boat]

Well I apologize then.

[BroadHopper]

Originally Posted by gravy boat

Not so a no-no. You block, you get moved. Period. Resident or not. Were you in the way of the launch area?

We are residents and launched and pulled ourselves for years and were annoyed with non-residents taking up the launch and general resident spaces to dine. We pay taxes for the privilege. Non-Gilford residents do not. The restaurant should insist its patrons park on the multiple “Island only” resident docks. The Island spots are mostly empty days and evenings.

Bottom line - you get moved if you block launch areas.

It's been a big concern with Gilford residents who own boats. We pay taxes and we should be allowed to share the island residents' docks when they are not used. You are right, they are underutilized. The late John Goodhue was a big voice in preventing Gilford non-islanders' use of the docks. Now that he is gone maybe we should have a say.

It was the islanders who wanted the Northern end of the docks as drop-in or off only area. They should move that to one of the islanders' dock so that more people can have access to the Northern dock.

[Fargo]

Ryan at Daves Motorboat Shoppe launched my boat this morning, business as usual.

[ishoot308]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

It's been a big concern with Gilford residents who own boats. We pay taxes and we should be allowed to share the island residents' docks when they are not used. You are right, they are underutilized. The late John Goodhue was a big voice in preventing Gilford non-islanders' use of the docks. Now that he is gone maybe we should have a say.

It was the islanders who wanted the Northern end of the docks as drop-in or off only area. They should move that to one of the islanders' dock so that more people can have access to the Northern dock.

Don’t you live in Laconia??

[steve-on-mark]

Originally Posted by BroadHopper

It's been a big concern with Gilford residents who own boats. We pay taxes and we should be allowed to share the island residents' docks when they are not used. You are right, they are underutilized. The late John Goodhue was a big voice in preventing Gilford non-islanders' use of the docks. Now that he is gone maybe we should have a say.

It was the islanders who wanted the Northern end of the docks as drop-in or off only area. They should move that to one of the islanders' dock so that more people can have access to the Northern dock.

But on the other hand, Islanders have vehicles at Glendale and if they need to come to the mainland and the docks are full they're basically screwed. I can usually get into a spot with inches to spare on either side...a lot of folks aren't able to do that. If I go to a hospital parking lot and park in a " physician parking only" spot because it was empty and I couldn't find a spot in the regular lot...you get the point. The services Gilford provides for our tax dollars is the fireboat and the two islander only Glendale docks. How big is your list?

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[Weekend Pundit]

Originally Posted by first timer

Money is not a problem...

I have a feeling they would have a tough time getting Planning Board approval for a project like that. Plus, I am not sure of the zoning on that lot as the zoning map is a little unclear - It's either RC (Resort Commercial) or LR (Limited Residential). If it is LR then there's no chance for approval. Plus with the wetlands that make up part of the property there may be an issue with NHDES approval.

Just my 3.72 cents worth...