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Thanks for all of the info so far. We are keeping our 27 foot boat in North Water Marine, near Weirs beach. It used to be called Thurston I think?
Few questions, first how choppy will it get on a bad day? Our boat has been out in the ocean plenty of times, does it compare? I have heard bad things about weirs channel, any tips on navigating it? I have also purchased myself a map and have been reviewing it closely. The last thing I would want is to hit some rocks, so I will make sure to stay far away from any rocks, like the witches. Lastly, the 150 rule is confusing. If I understand it correctly go at idle speed if I am 150 feet your shore or another boat? Thanks for everyone’s help! |
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Your interpretation of the 150' rule is correct, though there are also a significant number of no-wake and no-rafting zones you'll want to familiarize yourself with. Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk |
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Ocean... is where all waves are coming from the same direction.
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I also boat on Buzzards Bay and Lake Winnipesaukee and the only place I have experienced like that on the Cape is the entrance to the Cape Cod Canal from Buzzards Bay. The current coming from the canal and the wind blown waves make it like a Blender on 11... a great quote ![]() A 27 foot boat can handle it , but you will definitely get knocked around and will have to keep the bow up. Also where the rivers and inlets meet the ocean the tides and current keeps a boater on their toes. My favorite You Tube CH is Haulover Inlet down in FL. I have also had 100 foot yachts pass me on the Cape Cod Canal within 150 ft , so the ocean can be intense as well. Even though the canal has a speed limit , it only seems to be observed when the harbor master is around. |
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Also, great idea on exploring during the week—it's a significantly different landscape—though Saturday mornings (before 11/12) and Sunday afternoons (after 3/4) are often totally fine. ![]() Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk |
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Thank you for that. I will make sure to track down my boating license. I am planning on heading out on the water for the first time next week, is there any particular spot I should visit? I plan on also doing some water skiing during the earlier morning with my son, does any place on the lake work for that? Is it better is a cove somewhere? Super excited for my first time out there, praying I don’t hit anything
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Water skiing early next week?
The water might be uncomfortably cold. But then again, I'm old so who knows. |
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I believe where his son is 14 years old, he is allowed to drive up to a 25 hp engine without anyone else with him, and without a license. It says if over 16 years old and driving a boat with an engine that's over 25hp, they need someone older with them who has their license. |
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You can pick up a free copy of the NH Boater’s Guide at many marinas, and I know in the past they’ve had them at Thurston’s/North Water. They’ll have them at Marine Patrol HQ in Glendale as well.
Having been a long-time slip renter at Thurston’s and being familiar with the new dock configuration with North Water: - the dam flow at Lakeport (end of Paugus Bay) defines the water flow through the channel. When wide open the current is running very fast making it more of a challenge to get in and out. - the channel can get very busy particularly on weekends. Heading out before 10am can help avoid the heaviest traffic. - Best to exit the dock area towards Paugus Bay, then once the channel widens towards Winni Marine swing around and head back to the main lake. Same thing coming back in, go past the dock entry, swing around and approach coming into the current to have better control.
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Welcome to the lake!!
I remember my first year! Lot's to learn and I'm still learning. I'm often around during the week also, normally Wednesday on, but it varies. I'm happy to meet up or take you for a ride. Get your chart, find the following to know where they are so you can avoid problems and be prepared: 1) The Witches (off Governer's Isle and Timber Isle) 2) Spindle point, find the navaids, it's sort of an S turn get through the area 3) No wake zones, for example Eagle Island and Governor's Island pass, inside Governor's Island pass, through the Weirs Channel until south of the area about at the Ice Cream shack. 4) The graveyard (yes). If you have the Bizer chart (highly recommended), find the 'suggested path' that will show you how best route yourself past many islands and the markers (some don't make sense, sometimes you pass between the marker and an island, other times you stay on the far side of a marker from the island). Remember the Navaids !!!! : Red-Top Stay south or west of them. (if you're going north/south stay west, if you're going west/east stay south. Black-Top: Stay north or east of them. (if your going north/south, stay east, If you're going east/west, stay north). All Red, and companion all Black. Go between Red and black. How to remember the above? Think of Red as a warm color, and is warm like the South West USA Think of Black as a cold color, and is cold like the North East USA. Good luck and enjoy the lake. Learn the surrounding hills and features, for example Gunstock Mountain ski slopes can be seen from most parts of the lake, it helps you get your orientation. Take a ride and watch your chart, never follow another boater thinking he must know where is safe. Often they do, but often it's someone just as confused are you are! Good luck and have fun! Feel free to ask for help or go for a ride together.
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That being said, if you've got your chart and know where you are—and keep to that "safe passage" line—you'll have no problems. If you get mixed up, turned around, etc. just slow down/stop until you figure it out. There's no rush out there, right? Sent from my SM-S911U using Tapatalk |
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Those of us who travel into and out of the Weirs Beach channel are often encountered by some sort of S-show from someone trying to enter and exit the marina. This was great advice as to how to navigate it. |
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I got into the habit of checking the state website showing dam output as a way to gauge the current. Wide open, which is in the 1800 cfm range, means the channel is running very fast. 250 cfm is about the minimum flow, with minimal affect on channel velocity. This post from JeffK has the details on where to find this info. With the current dock setup, you’re exiting a bit further down the channel which helps. The gas dock area can be very difficult to navigate when the current is running hard. Exiting towards Paugus Bay helps in dealing with faster current, though if it’s a busy day with lots of traffic it gets hairy trying to hold position trying to get out.
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Make a stop at the Wolfeboro town docks. Great town for food, ice cream and shopping. Stop at the Yum Yum Shop for baked goodies. Your wife will love it.
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OP: there have been discussions on this forum about definition of "headway speed" as it relates to boat operation within 150 ft of anything. At times, proceeding north through the Weirs channel can't be done at idle speed, as current speed is greater than what normally would be "headway speed." |
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If you are looking for a calmer spot for water skiing, avoid open water and look for calmer coves. Winter Harbor would be a good choice.
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Update everyone: I know I said I wouldn't go out on the weekend, but we couldn't resist this morning. We went out very early and went cruising around. We had an excellent time cruising around. We checked out a few spots and went around a few of the harbors. We went to Long Island, and I checked the map, and it said that the bridge had 14-foot clearance. That was a lie!!!!
I was pulling in thinking, wow, that looks small, and the good thing I put on her is in good old reverse. Otherwise, things would have turned out much, much differently. We then went to Meridith for lunch, and the traffic had started to pick up. We had a great lunch before returning to the dock. Weirs was absolutely packed!!!! We went slow, but holy smokes it was crowded. Lesson learned. After 10:30 AM on Sunday is not good. Only a few questions after this trip for the next time: Are the docks next to Meridith Docks restaurant free? We are also doing a Valet service at our Marina, and I was wondering if I am expected to tip them? I tipped the nice service man who turned around our boat quickly after winter, but should I tip everyone else? Thanks again for everyone's help! |
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This could be helpful: On our Youtube channel I posted several videos passing through various bridges and other areas on the lake: Long Island Bridge, Black Cat Island bridge, Governors Island bridge, Back Bay bridge, Sally's Gut, Six Pack and others.
Here's the one for the Long Island bridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_riE59aFkg |
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Meredith Town Docks are free and have about a 3 hr limit. Town Docks Restaurant has 2 dock. Last I knew they needed some work though, not sure if they are being used. Docks at Church Landing are only available to those staying there. **Take the kids by Blueberry Island and watch the Eagles nesting. They also may like Sally's Gut (AKA the Jungle Cruise) and boating by Becky's Island (the smallest island on the lake with a "house" on it. |
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No. Stay away from Winter harbor. It's still iced in.
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I get it. We get tubers all day long in front of our place because it is a wide open area. The boat chop is relentless. Unfortunately, the lake belongs to everyone and you can't do anything about it.
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Now, there is room for three tubers in the main body of Winter Harbor, and while the chop is certainly "relentless", I've noticed the gravel is being slowly abraded and pounded into fine sand!
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Welcome to the lake! All great advice. I would add:
1. Always carry both your boater's license and your auto driver's license. Not that I know this from first-hand experience , but Marine Patrol expects both should you be pulled over by them. They'll also always check that you have PFDs, a throwable float, working horn and a properly charged fire extinguisher.2. In addition to having physical charts on board, I always have Navionics app up on my phone to confirm I'm where I think I am and which way to go around each spar buoy. Very reassuring, especially when traveling at night. Enjoy! |
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I did not see anyone else mention this. "No Wake" on Winnipesaukee is not the same as "No Wake" on the ocean (and pretty much everywhere else) where it pretty much means don't plane or plow. People get really worked up if you make even a small wake in a no wake zone on the lake.
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IMHO, I would do my boating on the weekdays 'if you can' ! Weekends tend to bring out a lot of crazy boaters, who don't know the rules of the road, or who just don't care. Be careful and enjoy all the Lake offers ! |
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Thanks for all the tips, everyone. I didn't even think about how cold the water would be next week. I will try and track down some wet suits to use to stay warm. My plan is to go out next week and go slow at first. I will try and navigate around new places slowly at first, before picking up the speed. I will also map it out beforehand on my map so I can find any rocks to avoid.
One registration question: As of now, my boat is registered in MA. How quickly do I need to get myself an NH one, if I need to at all, and where would I go about finding one of these? I know in MA, there were a few laws regarding tubing and skiing and needing a spotter; it is my understanding that I need a spotter in NH, too. Are there any other rules around this topic, time of day restrictions, or anything else? Appreciate everyone helping me out; I can't wait to have fun on the lake this summer! |
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I usually find that boating on the weekend is hard work, particularly for the reason you cite - the crazy boaters. I always feel exhausted because I have to work hard between the wake driven chop, the Cap'n Boneheads who can't tell 150 feet from 15 feet and aren't really paying attention. My head is constantly on swivel, but at 4 times the rate than when I am out during the week. If I do go out on the weekend I usually find a place to anchor away from the traffic, with one of my favorite places being...umm...a place that shall remain nameless. |
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