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Any recommendations for garage installs from local builders?
I'm currently looking at LaValley's and mostly interested in established designs (including slab) as they have. Also, want install. Mindset is that established designs should be less expensive because of existing manufacturing processes, tooling, etc. Any other manufacturers around with similar capabilities? An online search only came up with customer install garage kits. I'd prefer to work with one supplier rather than be a G.C. Thanks
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The LaValley's sales person can provide you a breakdown cost of modifications to a plan that you might want.
Usually the upgrade of doors to certain styles is the dramatic increases. |
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Prefab garages
LaValley can tell you all about them. You can even customize the garage to your taste. They even do site work and project management if you choose.
Best of all there is a warranty on materials and labor. And the prefab manufacturer will be around. A stick-built cannot offer.
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Right now I'm planning on leaving the doors standard. Will upgrade to 2 x 6 walls and fixed stairs to attic. Also, vinyl siding. Meeting with Craig (Greg?) In Middleton tomorrow.
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You might look at Morton metal buildings. You may think metal buildings are ugly, but they've come a long way. They can make them match you home and you would never know from the outside that it was a metal building.
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Post Woodworking has moved beyond just sheds and are now doing prefab garages. Many of the shed companies are.
My experiences with Middleton/Lavalleys on warranty issues for other projects has been less than stellar, still dealing with a flooring debacle now. I'd find someone that does garages and avoid having a lumber yard build it. There are a fair number of companies around on Facebook that you could call. I can dig up a few if you aren't having any luck. |
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Bobkatfly, Have you considered building using ICF walls? The advantages are numerous and the upgrade cost is relatively cheap ...especially if you DIY.
If you are planning on a truss roof I'd suggest considering upgrading to attic trusses rather than a basic truss as again the upgrade cost is relatively minor when compared to the advantages of the extra storage possibilities. The photo is of a storage barn that a buddy & I built last year using two shipping containers decked with arched trusses. Its probably way more than you need, but it is a very cool idea and I'll bet he doesn't have $30K in it. Check with your fire chief before going too far in considering a Morton building. I had one that was used as a cold storage warehouse at a business I ran in Concord and it collapsed during an extremely heavy spring snowstorm. The fire department wouldn't allow it to be replaced because they considered the wooden framing inside a steel shell to be an extreme fire hazard. Finally, whatever dimension you have settled on, in the future you'll wish you had built it larger... |
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Morton buildings are pole barns- mostly wood. Mine is metal clad but you could finish with asphalt shingles and clapboard if you choose.
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Yes! and those add up quickly! We are in the middle of permitting for a 55X60 building to include an ADU for my son. We are working with Middleton (Bill Gilson) via my contractor buddy that will be framing/ building it. If it were storage/ garage only, I would have done another Morton building.
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Yes, LaValley's includes a reinforced slab but i'll probably ask them to quote with/without it and possibly have it done myself.
Does Mortons handle the slab as well? I plan on contacting them in Auburn. I like their designs. I imagine Mortons will be more expensive but we'll see.
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According to their website they include a reinforced slab but as John mentioned, frost wall will probably be extra. I assume the slab would be 4 inch but is probably less when finished. I'll have more details to share after I meet with them today.
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What kind of lifetime is this? How many people will experience the same problem? The manufacturer has lots of blame, but Middleton sold it and warrantied it and their solution is not great. Also there have been multiple attempts to push blame back on us. My other issue was with a countertop install, their subcontractor drilled an extra soap dispenser hole in a 14' quartz countertop, plus we have marks on the top from the vacuum system used to pull the seams together that cannot be removed. No follow up after multiple attempts. We ended up putting in a second soap dispenser to fill the hole, and the squares are still visible. I think they didn't clean it well enough before sealing. |
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That's a tough situation with no reasonable solution. Is there a clause in the lifetime warranty regarding product unavailability?
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Well it turns out LaValley's doesn't do the slab for the size I'm interested in (26 x 26). Submitted our requirements and waiting to hear back on quote. I visited a friend that had one of their garages installed a few years ago (28 x 28) and was impressed with the build. Again, he did his own slab.
I'm on the fence with Morton. Not sure a pole barn style will fit my interior finishing needs without spending a lot more. Still going to talk to them though. Going to look at a couple of local builders that did work in the neighborhood as well.
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Not a specialist in the garages, but I have never heard that a standard size doesn't have a slab as part of the package. Sales person would know better than I though.
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Yeah, I was surprised. Apparently, in the past they relied on customer site prep and had issues after they poured because of poor prep. Seems weird that they wouldn't inspect the prep beforehand. Either way they should revise their website as it clearly indicates an included slab.
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I seriously doubt they did the install. Even on the garage packages, it is a third-party local contractor; usually a group of them that specialize in foundation work, general carpentry, and garage door installs.
The problem seems to be the of the 5000SF of LVP... which even Lowes buys from a manufacturer... failed. The manufacturer wants to only warranty the portion that failed... which would be fine with Codeman if they could replace it with the same material. Since they can't... they no longer manufacturer that specific color in that format... regardless of where it comes from would be an issue. |
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Most warrantees today are just lip service.
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In general I've had bad experiences working with contractors and try to do most things myself but at my current age and skill level, this would be far outside of my capabilities.
I'll have 3 or 4 quotes including LaValley and 3 of them have done work I've already looked at (including LaValley). I was lucky to come across a few neighbors I'd yet to meet that allowed me to check some work. We'll see.....
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It is the specifics of the warranty.
If the manufacturer had offered to replace all 5000SF with the wide plank, that would be great. But the warranty is probably only for the failed material; and probably doesn't cover any labor. |
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Codeman, I'd look for a solid legal litigator to review the warranty and determine your best course of action. A strong legal claim for damages might help. At least recoup your costs for the project. You shouldn't be expected to accept a different material. Sue the manufacturer, the installer, etc. etc. You used the product with an expectation of service. At least it would be worth the cost of a consult.
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I did sell sheds at HD, though a long time ago.
American Shed would just get the material from us. It got placed on several different pallets in specified pattern to make it easier to build and delivered to the site for them to erect. I didn't know that Lowes had a third-party manufacturer for the sheds. Must be the trusses? |
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Who ever I end up with for this garage, I'll have to pay attention to who they use for lumber.
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Usually a garage kit would be factory (or what we call the shop).
The walls and trusses come prefab, and the carpenters finish up on-site with trim, roofing, etc. |
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Seems we're getting more and more into the GMO era of building products.
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I returned the bad boards, and they told me to go out and pick my own boards to replace them but everything in the piles were crap. So, I took the credit and went to Home Depot, which is a 30-mile round trip drive for me.
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The lumber yards all order from the mills.
PT comes from down south, where as most dimensional comes from up north, and the finish board comes from mills in New England. So a lift comes in graded at a certain grade, but once picked through, what is mostly left is not decent quality. |
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It must be difficult for the yards. From what I understand, boards these days start off with young trees grown fast, cut economically (for the mill), then dried fast so that they still have internal stresses from moisture continuing to evaporate. Contractors and consumers need to use them fast for framing.
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It isn't timing from the mill.
If you go through six or seven lifts of material, some of it is going to be sub-par. The yards/Big Boxes normally would cull this. But if that is all they have, and the sales person doesn't make a note, the load builders will generally just send what they have. The more wood that a yard goes through, the quicker this material builds up... and without being culled... the sales person doesn't realize that is what is left when they enter it, because the computer just shows the amount, not the quality. The grades only matter as to how much cull you may build. HD/Lowes tend to buy #2 or Better Eastern in our area. While the smaller yards tend to buy #1. The #2 or Better will have many #1 in the lift, but not all. You also have Western as a higher cost option sold by some yards. Western tends to be a better quality in any grade compared to Eastern. But for PT, which is from SYP (Southern Yellow Pine), that is all just by grade. The lumber yards tend to carry #1, while the Big Boxes carry #2. The quick cycle of harvesting shouldn't change the certified grading. But it does mean that more of the lower grade will end up in each lift. So the timing is more about when new lifts come in, and whether the load builder is paying attention. Years ago, I was trained not to put into a delivery something that I would not buy for myself. I would have to make a note to the sales person to contact the customer and let them make the decision. |
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I think what you are seeing with lumber loads is no different than the malaise that seems to pervade our society in general. More emphasis is placed on speed than is placed on quality. Employees are told to get it done and get it done NOW! When faced with the decision between fast or right, fast is winning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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But fast can actually be slower because things need to be done twice or worse.
The correct protocol was for the load builder to contact the yard supervisor, the yard supervisor contacts the sales person, and the sales person calls the customer to adjust. Like, you place an order for twenty 12' long double v-groove boards. They are all good, but we only have ten. The sales person calls, if they didn't during the sales process, to determine whether you want just the ten... or if you wish to alter the order maybe taking some longer lengths. Other things can go wrong, for instance. I once had an outside sales person order a bunch of cedar with me. I coded it wrong into the system, and ended up with Select Pine in the delivery. When they asked if I had read it back to the sales person, I admitted that I had. But I did not read it as the coding... 16RCD... I stated over the phone 1x6 Cedar... and coded it into the system as 16C. So I was at fault and not the sales person or the yard. |
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My funds are tight on this and I appreciate everyone's input. I'm looking at 4 quotes after the holidays. Stay tuned
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Mine is a frost wall with floating slab also.
I only had one problem with it. Because it was T-111 siding and the trim around the doors was simply applied over the top of the siding and caulked. |
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John, was it a LaValley design and build?
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No. It was built way back... at that time Boulia-Gorrel was operating.
Basically, they built the walls and trusses. A independent third-party was contracted by them as part of the package to do the foundation work. They sent their truck with walls and trusses, set the back wall, then the sides and the front... finally put the trusses two feet on center up. Then another third-party contractor under the package finished the roof, trim, and installed the doors. Other than the foundation, we could have pretty much done the rest, but having trusses set by BG was going to happen, so adding the cost of the panel walls was worth the little extra when the package price was considered. We started our upgrades from there. |
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I have an email request into the shop supervisor to see if that is correct, or the website is correct.
He's on Holiday. |
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I PM'd the contact for the shop super. They do the slabs, but have stopped pouring for this year. He would be the most precise on the subject, as he has done this for decades. |
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Name names and post business telephone numbers.
I was told quite clearly that they do not do any concrete site work at any time of the year. |
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Newport is listed on the website.
603 863 1050 Just ask for Jim Luppold. His reply to me was they offered slab work, but have stopped pouring for this year. |
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Interesting, when I met with Greg in Middleton, He said they don't do slab work over a certain square footage. I think he said 20 x 20 but I got the impression they prefer not at all.
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And to be fair, I am not sure if that is the situation on that side of the State.
It is why I suggested contacting Jim through his email. If you aren't looking to get in before spring, he may have some decent news for you. |
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by code over a certain sq. footage you need frost walls. if your in Moultonboro call the building inspector.
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Hancock doesn't stock the same stuff?
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They do stock the doug fir. To be clear, when I ordered that time it was #2 appearance grade spruce. Maybe my expectations were too high but it truly was ~20% junk and the rest was just okay. I just remember much better product when it was Winni lumber. I would pick it myself and very seldom put a board aside.
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