Depth Question

[Susie Cougar]

Originally Posted by jayhawk_nation

Thank you guys. I think I will try to make the trip up there to see what it's like. I looked at the map and didn't see anything major, however, it still could be a worry. I would rather not have to think about it at all times and worry about it, but to that end, is there any lakefront house that has perfect boat access? It gets shallow no matter where you are. Just depends on how shallow and the rock situation.

Another question, then, is more specific about a property. It has one of those temporary docks. I am not sure why, but from what I saw, it made it seem like getting a real dock was not available. It is a very protected spot, not sure if that matters. My concern would be that this temporary dock is quite close to shore, which may add to issues.
Would you think that, if I wanted to, I could put in a longer and more substantial dock? Not sure how that would work.

Maybe, you could tell us what property you are interested in. I’m sure you’ll get a lot more feedback. It sounds like there could be a lot of problems.

[jayhawk_nation]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

Maybe, you could tell us what property you are interested in. I’m sure you’ll get a lot more feedback. It sounds like there could be a lot of problems.

65 beede rd moultonborough nh

This is just one of them. I would say this is the one I have the most concerns with in terms of boat stuff.

[Susie Cougar]

Originally Posted by jayhawk_nation

65 beede rd moultonborough nh

This is just one of them. I would say this is the one I have the most concerns with in terms of boat stuff.

This house is listed for sale for $5.5 million! If you have this amount of money, you should be able to find the most perfect, wonderful house available. You should not be cutting corners and making do. You are in a much better position than most people. You should not settle for anything except the best! No need to make concessions when you have this much to spend.

[jayhawk_nation]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

This house is listed for sale for $5.5 million! If you have this amount of money, you should be able to find the most perfect, wonderful house available. You should not be cutting corners and making do. You are in a much better position than most people. You should not settle for anything except the best! No need to make concessions when you have this much to spend.

Fair point.

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by Susie Cougar

This house is listed for sale for $5.5 million! If you have this amount of money, you should be able to find the most perfect, wonderful house available. You should not be cutting corners and making do. You are in a much better position than most people. You should not settle for anything except the best! No need to make concessions when you have this much to spend.

TOTALLY agree, especially if the OP is ready to go at that price.

Though the description, above, sounds like it might be ok, I've gotta think that money would get something that would come without such a major concern.

*Edited to add that, in terms of location on the lake, it's pretty great. Close enough to the north to escape the busy/rough areas but close enough to the main lake to get anywhere quickly (especially if the vessel can fit under the LI bridge).

That being said, I'd really have to see what the water looks like—although it appears to be a nice beach it's tough to tell about the water—and I'd DEFINITELY be checking out this stretch of what looks to be shallow rocks in the photo...especially in low water/late season.

Also, OP, thanks for a great thread—I love reading about people's searches and others' (learned) suggestions.

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[Susie Cougar]

Thanks for the picture, think. It definitely looks problematic for a boat and there is no view at all.

To the OP, what other properties are you looking at?

[retired]

You could always put a kayak in the water and check the depths to your dock with a tape measure. Old school.

[jayhawk_nation]

Thanks for the help, everyone. I agree with you all that at this price point, having major concerns such as this that I need to deal with is not ideal. I plan on trying to make a trip up there to visit a few properties, and I might try to take out my paddleboard and try to see what it's like.

Another general question, not necessarily about any specific home, but how easy is it to add on to a dock if I wanted to purchase a jet ski in the future? I know that's something my kids would enjoy. Looking at this house as an example, how would adding a seasonal dock work? Do I get a whole separate one? Curious what other people do with their jet skis as well. Don't know if I'm ready to own them yet, though! They sound like they could be challenging at times.

Lastly, I have not really navigated this place on the lake very often. Our boat is currently stored down at Weirs, so we didn't venture this way last year. How is it up here? Just glancing at my map, looks to be all kinds of rocks and channels. Just wondering if this would be a challenge at all.
Thanks

[thinkxingu]

Originally Posted by jayhawk_nation

Thanks for the help, everyone. I agree with you all that at this price point, having major concerns such as this that I need to deal with is not ideal. I plan on trying to make a trip up there to visit a few properties, and I might try to take out my paddleboard and try to see what it's like.

Another general question, not necessarily about any specific home, but how easy is it to add on to a dock if I wanted to purchase a jet ski in the future? I know that's something my kids would enjoy. Looking at this house as an example, how would adding a seasonal dock work? Do I get a whole separate one? Curious what other people do with their jet skis as well. Don't know if I'm ready to own them yet, though! They sound like they could be challenging at times.

Lastly, I have not really navigated this place on the lake very often. Our boat is currently stored down at Weirs, so we didn't venture this way last year. How is it up here? Just glancing at my map, looks to be all kinds of rocks and channels. Just wondering if this would be a challenge at all.

Thanks

That direct area—the cove and just outside—is fine, but you're right in the middle of what I define as The North and South. If you look at where the arrow is pointing, that is bringing you east/north to where what most people agree is the most challenging navigational area on the lake (Moultonborough Bay on up to Greene's Basin). We see people making bad decisions up there all the time.

We've been in Hanson Cove, the last cove before Greene's Basin, for 11 years and (knock on wood) have only ever scraped (a very tiny rub) once, and that was on a late season, pitch black night when I was literally an inch off.

With a good chart/knowledge/GPS, I don't think there's anywhere on the lake I would avoid for navigational reasons...


...unless it's often shallow depth/full of hazards naturally, which is my concern looking at that photo I posted.

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[TiltonBB]

The northern area of the lake certainly has more rocks and navigation challenges. The more central you are the easier it is to get to the different towns on the lake. Your budget is one that opens a lot of possibilities that most first time lakefront home buyers don't have.

It would be nice to have a location where you didn't have to worry about rocks when you dock. I have a friend who stands on the dock every time I visit yelling about watching out for the rock 30 feet off the end of his dock. After all these years, I am surprised he has not joined the Winnipesaukee top secret move a rock club.

If you are commuting to the new home for weekends and vacations the driving time involved should come into play, especially if you have young children in the car. Living in that house with a family will make it necessary to shop for groceries and many other things that you will use the nearby stores for. That distance should also be a consideration.

I am very fortunate to be in Gilford. Although the area may be busier than some would like, when I am at the house, what is going on in road traffic is not a concern. If you are someone who takes on projects at home then it would be nice to have a home supply store nearby. There are some days that I have gone to Lowes 2 or 3 times (poor planning) and I am glad it is right up the street.

[Asloren1]

I would definitely recommend reaching out to one of the waterfront
/dock construction companies such as Watermark (which I’ve used for our new construction house in Wolfeboro).

They can meet you onsite with their boat and likely will be able to assess pretty quickly what is feasible or not.

Also, ANY change to an existing dock or new dock install requires state DES permit approval (depending on the nature of the dock this may be simple permit by notification or more complicated shoreland permitting).

Reaching out to one of these companies early in your process can save much headache or disappointment down the road. You definitely want to know what you can do before making any purchase.

[Biggd]

I agree with others here, at that price point I think you can do better.
Keep looking, more properties will surely be coming available

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by jayhawk_nation

I plan on trying to make a trip up there to visit a few properties, and I might try to take out my paddleboard and try to see what it's like.

At the risk of sounding like your Mom...great idea to visit, by both land and water, but maybe dangerous to paddleboard this time of year--the water is VERY cold, you may not be able to move if you slip in

Bigger picture--I agree with the others--at $5MM you should not have a significant compromise in location or in style of home, with each of these based on your personal preferences. This home is stunning (I especially like the flavor shots at the cappuccino bar ). But it's a very definite taste, just make sure it's yours. It took us a year to find a place, and that was when the market was much larger. Good luck!

[DesertDweller]

Originally Posted by jayhawk_nation

65 beede rd moultonborough nh

This is just one of them. I would say this is the one I have the most concerns with in terms of boat stuff.

I fish at the mouth that cove all the time. As you are heading into the cove stay to your right (after entering the cove--there are a ton on rocks at the point) and then there is plenty of water. There is a massive set of rocks off to the left about halfway up the cove. Once you get beyond that it's probably ranges from 3 to 5 feet of water. That's a beautiful house. Has a huge sandy beach as I recall. With that said, if docking/boating is the main criteria, at that price point you can do far better.