Alton Bay Pavillion Fire

mg2107 · 12-14-2006, 08:43 AM

This is almost as big a tragedy as the Oak Birch Inn. What a land mark.Please post pix asap folks.thanks

Weirs guy · 12-14-2006, 09:26 AM

The fire has gone to a 3rd alarm.

Paugus Bay Resident · 12-14-2006, 09:50 AM

Here's the latest http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...1-442103e406c0
Sounds like its a total loss.

nj2nh · 12-14-2006, 10:57 AM

http://www.wmur.com/news/10532151/detail.html

My mom in Massachusetts heard this on the news and phoned me here in Jersey. How sad. First the Oak Birch Inn, the Old Man and now this. I feel like my childhood history is just disappearing and my children won't be able to experience it

A sad, sad day for Alton Bay.

Jersey Girl

gtxrider · 12-14-2006, 11:08 AM

I hope the developer has insurance! Last time I saw the building this summer it was just studs and a roof. Now it seems its gone.

nj2nh · 12-14-2006, 11:10 AM

I also heard, and please, please, correct me if I am wrong, that the developer can now build any sort of building he wants there including something with multiple stories. Could that be true???/

Jersey Girl

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 11:37 AM

Someone has sent me these photos at work. Regretfully I don't have time to upload and post them all right now!

thanks Ray for sending these along!

riverat · 12-14-2006, 11:43 AM

it totally gone

http://fdimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pb...ef=V2&MaxW=250

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 11:45 AM

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 11:54 AM

Alton Mumma · 12-14-2006, 12:01 PM

I have a friend that lives right on the Bay, she called me this morning. The fire trucks woke her at 6:30 and put her into a total panic. She looked out the window and saw the Pavilion in flames! She took pics, I'll see if I can get them from her to upload and share.

Such a sad day

Another part of our history gone...

superduty · 12-14-2006, 12:01 PM

Sad loss to Alton Bay, condo's or not. Pray for the safety of all those at the scene. I hope the contractor had insurance and I hope this was a construction accident. I have heard of several arson fires in empty buildings recently in the Alton area and this is much desturbing if this is one of them.

Onshore · 12-14-2006, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey Girl

I also heard, and please, please, correct me if I am wrong, that the developer can now build any sort of building he wants there including something with multiple stories. Could that be true???/

Jersey Girl

That would be false. He is limited by the Comprehenesive Shoreland Protection Act. He will need to build/ rebuild within the limits of what his original waiver and permits allowed.

riverat · 12-14-2006, 03:04 PM

Took these at 1:00 PM, looked like pretty much fire oiut around 1:30PM

flyguy · 12-14-2006, 03:25 PM

Definitely not "burned to the ground" as some reported, but certainly a total loss.

mcdude · 12-14-2006, 05:58 PM

SteveA · 12-14-2006, 07:29 PM

Yes they had insurance... my daughter works for the company that insured the project.

JacksonB · 12-14-2006, 08:56 PM

WMUR has a video of the fire on their website.
www.wmur.com

upthesaukee · 12-14-2006, 11:02 PM

Still firefighters on duty at 10 PM, including one ladder truck with the ladder extended over the roof area about the center of the building.

In the midst of this tragedy, some real heros. Alton FD and other departments from as far away as Rochester and Barrington. Ernie Gillan got a small boat into the water, but the power of the water hoses made it impossible to hold in one position. I heard they finally were able to get a line on a piling on shore, and do a fair job with I think one hose. (Alton fire boat came out of the water this past week!). Thanks to the firefighters local and mutual aid, the volunteers who helped any way they could, and thank goodness there doesn't seem to be any serious injuries relating to the fire.

JimD · 12-15-2006, 08:39 AM

I think there is a serious problem with fires in Alton. I don't live there or own property there, but I have friends in the area and it worries me. I have no personal knowledge, but just by reading the Citizen online everyday and it appears this has been going on for a couple years now and nobody seems concerned. It seems like they regard these fires as some type of prank. If this fire is determined to be arson or suspicous, hopefully it will get enough attention to end it before it gets worse.

mg2107 · 12-15-2006, 10:20 AM

Before someone dies.

Coolbreeze · 12-15-2006, 06:59 PM

JimD, I may be taking your post the wrong way but it reads like you think the investigating agencies are not taking the fires in Alton or the surrounding communities seriously. Yet, you are getting the info that "concerns you" from the local paper of a community. What you read in the papers isn't alway all the facts. Insurance companies investigate all losses and claims related to fire. The State and local investigators work with the insurance agencies...so the info you get from the papers is not all there simply because the investigators are not sharing it. That is a part of their jobs during an investigation, it also gets bad guys caught. So before you start thinking these professionals are just shrugging their shoulders to another fire. Remember that there is alot going on behind the scenes that you don't see and are not supposed to see.

Pineedles · 12-15-2006, 08:59 PM

I think "Behind the scenes" is what concerns him. No arrests. No convictions.

12-14-2006, 09:26 AM	#2
Weirs guy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Weirs Beach, NH Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The fire has gone to a 3rd alarm. __________________ Is it bikeweek yet? Now?

12-14-2006, 10:57 AM	#4
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 533 Thanks: 81 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Here's some video http://www.wmur.com/news/10532151/detail.html My mom in Massachusetts heard this on the news and phoned me here in Jersey. How sad. First the Oak Birch Inn, the Old Man and now this. I feel like my childhood history is just disappearing and my children won't be able to experience it A sad, sad day for Alton Bay. Jersey Girl

12-14-2006, 11:08 AM	#5
gtxrider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Piscataway, NJ Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	Fire! I hope the developer has insurance! Last time I saw the building this summer it was just studs and a roof. Now it seems its gone.

12-14-2006, 11:10 AM	#6
nj2nh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 533 Thanks: 81 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts	Also heard . . . I also heard, and please, please, correct me if I am wrong, that the developer can now build any sort of building he wants there including something with multiple stories. Could that be true???/ Jersey Girl

12-14-2006, 11:43 AM	#8
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	it totally gone http://fdimg.sv.publicus.com/apps/pb...ef=V2&MaxW=250 __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 08:43 AM	#1
mg2107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	This is almost as big a tragedy as the Oak Birch Inn. What a land mark.Please post pix asap folks.thanks

12-14-2006, 09:50 AM	#3
Paugus Bay Resident Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gilmanton, NH Posts: 754 Thanks: 136 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Here's the latest http://www.unionleader.com/article.a...1-442103e406c0 Sounds like its a total loss.

12-14-2006, 11:37 AM	#7
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	Someone has sent me these photos at work. Regretfully I don't have time to upload and post them all right now! thanks Ray for sending these along!

12-14-2006, 11:45 AM	#9
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts

12-14-2006, 11:54 AM	#10
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts

12-14-2006, 12:01 PM	#11
Alton Mumma Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Alton NH Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a friend that lives right on the Bay, she called me this morning. The fire trucks woke her at 6:30 and put her into a total panic. She looked out the window and saw the Pavilion in flames! She took pics, I'll see if I can get them from her to upload and share. Such a sad day Another part of our history gone... __________________ Alton Mumma "Living with a toddler is like using a blender without the cover."

12-14-2006, 12:01 PM	#12
superduty Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fire Sad loss to Alton Bay, condo's or not. Pray for the safety of all those at the scene. I hope the contractor had insurance and I hope this was a construction accident. I have heard of several arson fires in empty buildings recently in the Alton area and this is much desturbing if this is one of them.

12-14-2006, 03:04 PM	#14
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	A few pictures at 1:00PM Took these at 1:00 PM, looked like pretty much fire oiut around 1:30PM Attached Images __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

12-14-2006, 03:25 PM	#15
flyguy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Laconia NH Posts: 383 Thanks: 9 Thanked 101 Times in 20 Posts	Alton Pavillion Fire Photo (Aerial) Definitely not "burned to the ground" as some reported, but certainly a total loss. __________________ Bill Hemmel LakesRegionAerials.com "We have a slightly different point of view"

12-14-2006, 05:58 PM	#16
mcdude Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rock Haven Lake - West Newfield, ME Posts: 5,367 Thanks: 374 Thanked 1,057 Times in 495 Posts	More Photos

12-14-2006, 07:29 PM	#17
SteveA Deceased Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gilford, NH Posts: 2,311 Thanks: 1,070 Thanked 2,054 Times in 497 Posts	Insurance Yes they had insurance... my daughter works for the company that insured the project. __________________ "Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry he'll be a mile away and barefoot!" unknown

12-14-2006, 08:56 PM	#18
JacksonB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alton Bay/CT Posts: 222 Thanks: 34 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Video WMUR has a video of the fire on their website. www.wmur.com

12-14-2006, 11:02 PM	#19
upthesaukee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alton Bay Posts: 5,614 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 2,483 Thanked 1,987 Times in 1,087 Posts	Thurs evening 10PM Still firefighters on duty at 10 PM, including one ladder truck with the ladder extended over the roof area about the center of the building. In the midst of this tragedy, some real heros. Alton FD and other departments from as far away as Rochester and Barrington. Ernie Gillan got a small boat into the water, but the power of the water hoses made it impossible to hold in one position. I heard they finally were able to get a line on a piling on shore, and do a fair job with I think one hose. (Alton fire boat came out of the water this past week!). Thanks to the firefighters local and mutual aid, the volunteers who helped any way they could, and thank goodness there doesn't seem to be any serious injuries relating to the fire. __________________ I Live Here... I am always UPTHESAUKEE !!!!

12-15-2006, 08:39 AM	#20
JimD Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 25 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Too Many Fires In Alton I think there is a serious problem with fires in Alton. I don't live there or own property there, but I have friends in the area and it worries me. I have no personal knowledge, but just by reading the Citizen online everyday and it appears this has been going on for a couple years now and nobody seems concerned. It seems like they regard these fires as some type of prank. If this fire is determined to be arson or suspicous, hopefully it will get enough attention to end it before it gets worse.

12-15-2006, 10:20 AM	#21
mg2107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 169 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Before someone dies.

12-15-2006, 06:59 PM	#22
Coolbreeze Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 332 Thanks: 0 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts	JimD, I may be taking your post the wrong way but it reads like you think the investigating agencies are not taking the fires in Alton or the surrounding communities seriously. Yet, you are getting the info that "concerns you" from the local paper of a community. What you read in the papers isn't alway all the facts. Insurance companies investigate all losses and claims related to fire. The State and local investigators work with the insurance agencies...so the info you get from the papers is not all there simply because the investigators are not sharing it. That is a part of their jobs during an investigation, it also gets bad guys caught. So before you start thinking these professionals are just shrugging their shoulders to another fire. Remember that there is alot going on behind the scenes that you don't see and are not supposed to see.

12-15-2006, 08:59 PM	#23
Pineedles Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Moultonborough & CT Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 672 Times in 369 Posts	Behind the scenes I think "Behind the scenes" is what concerns him. No arrests. No convictions.