Dock Repairs

LadyKey · 02-21-2007, 02:01 PM

Looking for a person/company who does dock repairs on Lake Winni. Our dock was destroyed this winter. We had an aerator under dock, but found out to late it was not working. Thanks

DRH · 02-21-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyKey

Looking for a person/company who does dock repairs on Lake Winni. Our dock was destroyed this winter. We had an aerator under dock, but found out to late it was not working. Thanks

We've always had good luck with Winnipesaukee Marine Construction Co. in Gilford.

codeman671 · 02-23-2007, 09:23 AM

Depending on what you had for a dock and what you need for work there are 3 options that I would suggest.

Watermark Marine
Diversified Marine Construction
Island Support

Having dealt with all of them if you can provide more information to your dock/damage I can make a suggestion as to which way to go. Each is good at certain things and prices accordingly. I have had plenty of experience in the last few years with docks, DES, etc and am glad to help.

You may want to hire a company next year to monitor your aerator. Depending on if you are on the mainland or an island I can make a suggestion for this as well.

Formula260SS · 02-23-2007, 01:05 PM

I would also try Lakes Region Marine Construction, I am using them in the spring for my Breakwater and I know they have some open capacity right now. 603-253-7272. The biggest problem I had was getting the others to get back to me. If you want the work done ASAP LRMC is your best chance in my opinion

fatlazyless · 02-24-2007, 07:58 AM

Here's a thought and I'm hoping that someone with experience will comment. Use a floating dock, built with lumber and those large black plastic air chamber plastic floats, and it can be left in all year without the need for a water circulator.

Sure, it will get frozen in but it will not get damaged. Water expands in volume by ten percent when it turns to ice. A wood dock should survice because the expansion force is equal inside and out of the wood frame. As a floating dock, it has no vertical lake floor supports.

Anyone be doing this or seen it?

RLW · 02-24-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Here's a thought and I'm hoping that someone with experience will comment. Use a floating dock, built with lumber and those large black plastic air chamber plastic floats, and it can be left in all year without the need for a water circulator.

Sure, it will get frozen in but it will not get damaged. Anyone be doing this or seen it?

I'm not so sure it is just the ice forming around one's dock that does the damage. In my case, my dock went to the great GOD of ice damaged piers because of ice movement. In the winter when it expanded against it and in the spring because of movement of the ice thawing and moving with the winds. I' don't believe anything will save a dock in the spring if and I say if the wind is coming from the right direction and is strong enough to get it moving.

jeffk · 02-24-2007, 10:11 AM

A manufacturer of these floats claims that they won't really freeze into the ice but instead will be pushed up on top of it as it freezes. If that is true pressure of expanding ice wouldn't matter. If there is a lot of ice movement, from wind and current as the ice breaks up, that could still cause problems, possibly pulling the dock away. I don't know anyone who has used them in this climate so I don't know if the claims are true. I like the idea but I don't like the looks of them.

fatlazyless · 02-24-2007, 12:12 PM

As I understand it, these black plastic, large rectangular, full-of-air, floats get tucked away under the dock section and are not too visible.

My dock is a 30', all-aluminum, oldey dock & 10x10'boat lift and using either two or three of Lowe's sixty-four dollar, 1/6hp-2amp utility pumps, made in Taiwan, has done a good job so far. (None of the local Wal-Marts stock any pumps.....ahem.) Much to my surprise, no burnt out pumps, yet! They just run and run and run! In the past few days, I've been able to go from three to two pumps and the size of the open water has got a lot larger! It seems like the cold has left and things are starting to warm up, a little.

RLW · 02-24-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

My dock is a 30', all-aluminum, oldey dock & 10x10'boat lift and using either two or three of Lowe's sixty-four dollar, 1/6hp-2amp utility pumps, made in Taiwan

FLL, I believe you are in deep pooh now. You used the wrong company to purchase the pumps from and now the superiors of the famous Wal-Mart are coming to get you.

phoenix · 02-25-2007, 09:05 AM

back to the original question. Lady Key if you are at northern end of the lake Center Harbor Dock will do repairs

Newcomers · 10-16-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Here's a thought and I'm hoping that someone with experience will comment. Use a floating dock, built with lumber and those large black plastic air chamber plastic floats, and it can be left in all year without the need for a water circulator.

Sure, it will get frozen in but it will not get damaged. Water expands in volume by ten percent when it turns to ice. A wood dock should survice because the expansion force is equal inside and out of the wood frame. As a floating dock, it has no vertical lake floor supports.

Anyone be doing this or seen it?

I have a place in NJ on Lake Mohawk that must have more than 100 of these types of docks. Everyone either pulls them out or uses a bubbler water circulator - I haven't seen any left in without this type of support.

fatlazyless · 10-19-2007, 07:23 PM

Maybe I was drunk when I thought I saw that, or something, but I thought I saw a Cattle Landing dock that survived all winter without too much damage that was all lumber built.

Slightly off-topic....anyone know where I can buy a 1/2hp ice-eater water circulator cheap, a used one is fine, plus the thermostat-timer control. At Heath's it costs....ouch.....$575. Got to decide...this winter....will it be prop taxes....food....or an ice-eater.....something has to go without?

Skip · 10-19-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

...Got to decide...this winter....will it be prop taxes....food....or an ice-eater.....something has to go without?...

You left out choice number four...perhaps a secondary (or primary) job?

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LIforrelaxin · 10-19-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

Here's a thought and I'm hoping that someone with experience will comment. Use a floating dock, built with lumber and those large black plastic air chamber plastic floats, and it can be left in all year without the need for a water circulator.

Sure, it will get frozen in but it will not get damaged. Water expands in volume by ten percent when it turns to ice. A wood dock should survice because the expansion force is equal inside and out of the wood frame. As a floating dock, it has no vertical lake floor supports.

Anyone be doing this or seen it?

Having lived in Vermont on Lake Champlain I can tell you leaving floating docks in the water is not a good idea without a circulator or bubbler..... what gets done at the marinas on champlain is that the disassemble the docks and raft them all up as close to shore as possible that way they don't have to circulate the water in as big of an area..... As for home owners they all pull their floating docks.... some even have clever wheel arangements so they can pull them out at the local boat ramp.

What happens in the winter with the ice is that they either caught in the ice because of the anchor lines, and then get crushed, or they get caught in the ice and then disappear out to sea in the spring durring the melt because the ice breaks the mooring chains and then sometimes they just sink do to holes in the floats from the ice..... In short just like a tradition dock the ice tears them apart if they are not protected.

I have often thought of using a floating dock system when my current dock is no longer functional.... however I have found that the expense in trying to make sure they are properly anchored for rough weather is just too much.....and pipe docks work just fine......

Gatto Nero · 02-26-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyKey

We had an aerator under dock, but found out to late it was not working.

It won't help you this time around but if you set up a web cam you'll be able to monitor the aerator and we all get another view of the lake.

02-21-2007, 02:01 PM	#1
LadyKey Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dock Repairs Looking for a person/company who does dock repairs on Lake Winni. Our dock was destroyed this winter. We had an aerator under dock, but found out to late it was not working. Thanks

02-24-2007, 07:58 AM	#5
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,762 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,014 Times in 739 Posts	...my two cents Here's a thought and I'm hoping that someone with experience will comment. Use a floating dock, built with lumber and those large black plastic air chamber plastic floats, and it can be left in all year without the need for a water circulator. Sure, it will get frozen in but it will not get damaged. Water expands in volume by ten percent when it turns to ice. A wood dock should survice because the expansion force is equal inside and out of the wood frame. As a floating dock, it has no vertical lake floor supports. Anyone be doing this or seen it?

02-24-2007, 10:11 AM	#7
jeffk Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Center Harbor Posts: 1,172 Thanks: 206 Thanked 437 Times in 253 Posts	Plastic Floats A manufacturer of these floats claims that they won't really freeze into the ice but instead will be pushed up on top of it as it freezes. If that is true pressure of expanding ice wouldn't matter. If there is a lot of ice movement, from wind and current as the ice breaks up, that could still cause problems, possibly pulling the dock away. I don't know anyone who has used them in this climate so I don't know if the claims are true. I like the idea but I don't like the looks of them.

02-24-2007, 12:12 PM	#8
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,762 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,014 Times in 739 Posts	As I understand it, these black plastic, large rectangular, full-of-air, floats get tucked away under the dock section and are not too visible. My dock is a 30', all-aluminum, oldey dock & 10x10'boat lift and using either two or three of Lowe's sixty-four dollar, 1/6hp-2amp utility pumps, made in Taiwan, has done a good job so far. (None of the local Wal-Marts stock any pumps.....ahem.) Much to my surprise, no burnt out pumps, yet! They just run and run and run! In the past few days, I've been able to go from three to two pumps and the size of the open water has got a lot larger! It seems like the cold has left and things are starting to warm up, a little. Last edited by fatlazyless; 02-25-2007 at 07:07 AM.

02-25-2007, 09:05 AM	#10
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: phoenix and moultonboro Posts: 1,554 Thanks: 61 Thanked 275 Times in 193 Posts	back to the original question. Lady Key if you are at northern end of the lake Center Harbor Dock will do repairs __________________ it's tough to make predictions specially about the future

02-23-2007, 09:23 AM	#3
codeman671 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,501 Thanks: 221 Thanked 815 Times in 489 Posts	Depending on what you had for a dock and what you need for work there are 3 options that I would suggest. Watermark Marine Diversified Marine Construction Island Support Having dealt with all of them if you can provide more information to your dock/damage I can make a suggestion as to which way to go. Each is good at certain things and prices accordingly. I have had plenty of experience in the last few years with docks, DES, etc and am glad to help. You may want to hire a company next year to monitor your aerator. Depending on if you are on the mainland or an island I can make a suggestion for this as well.

02-23-2007, 01:05 PM	#4
Formula260SS Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NH Posts: 384 Thanks: 11 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts	I would also try Lakes Region Marine Construction, I am using them in the spring for my Breakwater and I know they have some open capacity right now. 603-253-7272. The biggest problem I had was getting the others to get back to me. If you want the work done ASAP LRMC is your best chance in my opinion

10-19-2007, 07:23 PM	#12
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,762 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 300 Thanked 1,014 Times in 739 Posts	Maybe I was drunk when I thought I saw that, or something, but I thought I saw a Cattle Landing dock that survived all winter without too much damage that was all lumber built. Slightly off-topic....anyone know where I can buy a 1/2hp ice-eater water circulator cheap, a used one is fine, plus the thermostat-timer control. At Heath's it costs....ouch.....$575. Got to decide...this winter....will it be prop taxes....food....or an ice-eater.....something has to go without?