Snowmobile Trails Trashed

Tir Na Nog · 02-23-2007, 11:11 AM

I understand that some of the snowmobile trails also are open to ATVs. For example, I was told that the railroad trail in Wolfeboro is open to ATVs when it also is open to snowmobiles. Can anyone confirm that for me? Any other information on trails open to ATVs would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

SAMIAM · 02-23-2007, 03:53 PM

That's good to hear,Massteve,when I made my original post I had talked to a group of 6 from Reading,Mass. that were up for the week.They had spent saturday riding in Gilford and Laconia and were very dissappointed in the trails .especially after a fresh storm.I've seen the Moultonborough club out grooming in the middle of storms and even late at night.They do the best job of all the local clubs

WINNOCTURN · 02-23-2007, 04:37 PM

To any one coming up to ride in Moultonboro this weekend do not bother, save the gas.

OK, for the lack of snow the grooming the Club has done all this week has paid off. All the moguls and whoopdies we rode last weekend are gone. I could not believe how smooth the trials were today.

I went out with a friend and a friend of his who has not ridden before. At first I was afraid the trails may be so bad the new fellow would be discouraged. Well to my surprise the trails were in the best shape they have been in for the last three years. We road out of Braun Bay, went down to Far Echo beach, took the trail back up the Neck to Bussles Cove, up to Greens Basin, the Lake was perfect. We then took 15 back to Karnataka and went up the back side of RED HILL, it was excellent! When we come down off of RED HILL we stopped at the Fabulous VK (Village Kitchen, not to be confused with the Real Country Cooking). We had a delightful lunch, our server Sherri was superb. Ok Sam? After lunch we went back down Moultonboro Bay, caught the Far Echo Trail back to the Kona Forest Trail, and did the LOOP Trial and maid it back home.

The only thing that bothered me was as we road by the Club Garage the Big Drag was there but the Tucker was not. Hope we did not pay a PRICE for all the hard work the Drivers have done grooming this week?

I think our new riding buddy will be looking for a sled this week. Did I have a good day? You bet I did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WINNOCTURN

SAMIAM · 02-24-2007, 08:53 AM

Glad you had such a nice day Winno....I'll show your post to Sherri.....I know that will make her happy.
We.also have a couple of friends who are just learning to ride and, like you,we want to make sure they have nice easy rides until they get more experience. See ya' on the trails !

Rayhunt · 02-27-2007, 07:06 PM

For all you people whining about people on and off the gas creating moguls your wrong..
I worked for an engineering firm that built drags (the thing behind the cat) that actually flattens the trail.. They did studies on the effect of snowmobiles traveling over the groomed trails to determine the best way to groom it. Moguls are created naturaly even under steady throttle. In fact studies revealed slower moving sleds as having more mogul building effect than fast moving sleds..
Quit whining and pray for more snow !

riverat · 03-01-2007, 09:43 AM

I have been almost a daily witness to ATV's and snowmobiles ripping up the only access to Alton Bay for weeks now, and it is now so bad that it is all but impassable. Started as a huge Mogul at the bottom of the ramp from people gunning it as they were coming off the ramp, to now a huge crater of chewed up ice that has filled with water and no one knows for sure how thick the ice is there under the water. So vehicle traffic has basically been halted onto the bay because of this obstacle which is unfortunate to all the fisherman(especially disabled ones like myself) who relied on driving out to their bobhouse. Now with the storm coming and no way to get a plow on to keep road open or runway clear I think it was really selfish of these people who tore up this access point to ruin other peoples sport of fishing or flying.

secondcurve · 03-03-2007, 09:04 AM

Can someone give an update on trail conditions? Was the snow heavy and wet or was it light and fluffy. Nothing but rain in Massachusetts.

Rayhunt · 03-03-2007, 10:43 AM

Here in Glendale we had about 7-8 inches of fairly wet snow with a 1/2 inch of sleet on top.

WeirsBeachBoater · 03-03-2007, 12:50 PM

Should be decent riding if the clubs got out and groomed last night

02-23-2007, 11:11 AM	#1
Tir Na Nog Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 53 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Any ATV Trails Open I understand that some of the snowmobile trails also are open to ATVs. For example, I was told that the railroad trail in Wolfeboro is open to ATVs when it also is open to snowmobiles. Can anyone confirm that for me? Any other information on trails open to ATVs would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

02-23-2007, 04:37 PM	#3
WINNOCTURN Deceased Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Moultonboro Posts: 849 Thanks: 350 Thanked 351 Times in 193 Posts	Moultonboro Trails Today, PLEASE STAY HOME To any one coming up to ride in Moultonboro this weekend do not bother, save the gas. OK, for the lack of snow the grooming the Club has done all this week has paid off. All the moguls and whoopdies we rode last weekend are gone. I could not believe how smooth the trials were today. I went out with a friend and a friend of his who has not ridden before. At first I was afraid the trails may be so bad the new fellow would be discouraged. Well to my surprise the trails were in the best shape they have been in for the last three years. We road out of Braun Bay, went down to Far Echo beach, took the trail back up the Neck to Bussles Cove, up to Greens Basin, the Lake was perfect. We then took 15 back to Karnataka and went up the back side of RED HILL, it was excellent! When we come down off of RED HILL we stopped at the Fabulous VK (Village Kitchen, not to be confused with the Real Country Cooking). We had a delightful lunch, our server Sherri was superb. Ok Sam? After lunch we went back down Moultonboro Bay, caught the Far Echo Trail back to the Kona Forest Trail, and did the LOOP Trial and maid it back home. The only thing that bothered me was as we road by the Club Garage the Big Drag was there but the Tucker was not. Hope we did not pay a PRICE for all the hard work the Drivers have done grooming this week? I think our new riding buddy will be looking for a sled this week. Did I have a good day? You bet I did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WINNOCTURN Last edited by WINNOCTURN; 02-24-2007 at 09:09 AM.

02-27-2007, 07:06 PM	#5
Rayhunt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gilford NH Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Gassing it For all you people whining about people on and off the gas creating moguls your wrong.. I worked for an engineering firm that built drags (the thing behind the cat) that actually flattens the trail.. They did studies on the effect of snowmobiles traveling over the groomed trails to determine the best way to groom it. Moguls are created naturaly even under steady throttle. In fact studies revealed slower moving sleds as having more mogul building effect than fast moving sleds.. Quit whining and pray for more snow !

03-01-2007, 09:43 AM	#6
riverat Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alton, NH Posts: 722 Thanks: 337 Thanked 280 Times in 123 Posts	I have been almost a daily witness to ATV's and snowmobiles ripping up the only access to Alton Bay for weeks now, and it is now so bad that it is all but impassable. Started as a huge Mogul at the bottom of the ramp from people gunning it as they were coming off the ramp, to now a huge crater of chewed up ice that has filled with water and no one knows for sure how thick the ice is there under the water. So vehicle traffic has basically been halted onto the bay because of this obstacle which is unfortunate to all the fisherman(especially disabled ones like myself) who relied on driving out to their bobhouse. Now with the storm coming and no way to get a plow on to keep road open or runway clear I think it was really selfish of these people who tore up this access point to ruin other peoples sport of fishing or flying. __________________ Waking up in the morning is the greatest, everything after that is a bonus

03-03-2007, 10:43 AM	#8
Rayhunt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gilford NH Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Snow report Here in Glendale we had about 7-8 inches of fairly wet snow with a 1/2 inch of sleet on top.

02-23-2007, 03:53 PM	#2
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,896 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,676 Times in 586 Posts	That's good to hear,Massteve,when I made my original post I had talked to a group of 6 from Reading,Mass. that were up for the week.They had spent saturday riding in Gilford and Laconia and were very dissappointed in the trails .especially after a fresh storm.I've seen the Moultonborough club out grooming in the middle of storms and even late at night.They do the best job of all the local clubs

02-24-2007, 08:53 AM	#4
SAMIAM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Moultonborough Posts: 2,896 Thanks: 334 Thanked 1,676 Times in 586 Posts	Glad you had such a nice day Winno....I'll show your post to Sherri.....I know that will make her happy. We.also have a couple of friends who are just learning to ride and, like you,we want to make sure they have nice easy rides until they get more experience. See ya' on the trails !

03-03-2007, 09:04 AM	#7
secondcurve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,117 Thanks: 1,329 Thanked 559 Times in 288 Posts	Can someone give an update on trail conditions? Was the snow heavy and wet or was it light and fluffy. Nothing but rain in Massachusetts.

03-03-2007, 12:50 PM	#9
WeirsBeachBoater Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 709 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 39 Thanked 148 Times in 65 Posts	Heavy and wet Should be decent riding if the clubs got out and groomed last night